The forthcoming Pentax Mirrorless Camera

narichey81 · 01-22-2011, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by gazonk

It does indeed seem silly (I want a mirrorless back for my DA35 Ltd for those days that I want to travel really light!), but to support screw drive AF lenses, the adapter would have to have a built-in motor.

i dont see why people think an AF motor in an adapter for a mirrorless camera is some kind of insurmountable engineering feat. samsung squeezes lens motors into their tiny nx pancake lens. And have you seen the size of the sony amount to nex adapter?

http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/SonyStyleStorefrontAssetStore/img/718x407/LAEA1.png

there is plenty of room in that for a lens motor, and I imagine a pentax mirrolress adapter would have a similar sized adapter. lens motors are not that large.

falconeye · 01-22-2011, 04:53 PM

Originally posted by narichey81

i dont see why people think an AF motor in an adapter for a mirrorless camera is some kind of insurmountable engineering feat.

I don't think this is what people think.

An AF screw drive motor with controller is an easy thing to do indeed. But it's not where to start if you want to market an affordable adapter not consuming internal resources from R&D. A version 2 adapter is likely if the mirrorless camera succeeds.

Economically, the screw drive AF adapter only makes sense for the DA limiteds. The big DA* lenses are all SDM. But maybe, Pentax plans to release mirrorless versions of the DA Limiteds as they could be made smaller, esp. below 40mm.

ogl · 01-23-2011, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by Kenn100D

NC-1 = Nikon Canon minus 1 =)

Seriously, Pentax is innovation. Probably NC is "New Concept" in mirrorless tech.

I think it's more easy...Non-mirror camera - 1.

As mentioned above

techmulla · 01-23-2011, 05:15 AM

Or nc may stand for non conformists

timh · 01-23-2011, 06:22 AM

Quote:

Pentax US has said it has not ruled out introducing a mirrorless interchangable lens camera. Chris Pound, Product Manager, Digital Imaging Systems said: 'if a product makes sense, and is feasible economically, we'll come out with it'.

NC = Non-Committal?

Steelski · 01-23-2011, 07:33 AM

A good thing I hope we can pick up from the name NC-1 is that it could be a high end product.
If the naming scheme is in line with the currant K series then a lower number could mean a higher end product..... Or I could be wrong.

johnmflores · 01-23-2011, 07:42 AM

NC?

Not a Canon?
Nikon Copy?
Nevertheless, please Consider?

openyourap · 01-23-2011, 07:52 PM

I'm expecting the C to reflect the C-mount or CS mount flange focal distance.

Pentax already has plenty of lens designs for this distance, but I expect a new mount in order for it to be more consumer friendly and to play nice with DA* and other K-mount lenses, via adaptors. Adaptors could also provide native support for lenses from other DSLR manufacturers .

An APS-C sensor could be cropped in-camera whenever a lens circle doesn't provide full coverage.

**Fontan** · 01-23-2011, 10:28 PM

Cine mount and circuit tv lenses and now this. Make sense.

froeschle · 01-24-2011, 02:37 AM

Quote:

NC-1?

Well, when I first heard about the digital 110 mirrorless rumor, my initial guess for a possible name was CX. This combination, however, is already used by e.g. Citroën, Chrysler and Cathay Pacific

...

If you believe in conspiracy theories, then you might be interested that the ASCII code for capital N is 78 and for lowercase n is 110 (thus nC = 110 Camera)

RMabo · 01-24-2011, 04:11 AM - **1 Like**

Lens adapters are expensive, the K-mount adapter for Samsung NX-serie (with only manual focus) cost as a new Sigma zoom... The Olympus OM-adapter for 4/3 is also as expensive. Novoflex third party adapters is less expensive, but still cost quite much money for what is essentially only a metal ring with some mechanics.

Adding lens motor and circuits and controls for this to drive screwdriven AF lenses and price goes up, way beyond what most wants to pay for such an accessory.

It can be done, but not to a good price. This limits the market appeal.

Kenn100D · 01-24-2011, 03:42 PM

what if the mount is an improved screwmount. Then use of an PK-Adaptor will be good to APS-C

elho_cid · 01-24-2011, 04:39 PM

And so much we already know:
Pentax NC-1 Camera

RonHendriks1966 · 01-24-2011, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

And so much we already know:
Pentax NC-1 Camera

o wow they also listed the K-r and K-5 names early stage. So this is going to happen.

bobmaxja · 01-24-2011, 05:57 PM

It Easy to write potential spec. Just make sure you put everything that all modern camera have

01-23-2011, 07:33 AM	#126
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01-22-2011, 02:08 PM	#121
narichey81 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 58	Originally posted by gazonk It does indeed seem silly (I want a mirrorless back for my DA35 Ltd for those days that I want to travel really light!), but to support screw drive AF lenses, the adapter would have to have a built-in motor. i dont see why people think an AF motor in an adapter for a mirrorless camera is some kind of insurmountable engineering feat. samsung squeezes lens motors into their tiny nx pancake lens. And have you seen the size of the sony amount to nex adapter? http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/SonyStyleStorefrontAssetStore/img/718x407/LAEA1.png there is plenty of room in that for a lens motor, and I imagine a pentax mirrolress adapter would have a similar sized adapter. lens motors are not that large.

01-22-2011, 04:53 PM	#122
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by narichey81 i dont see why people think an AF motor in an adapter for a mirrorless camera is some kind of insurmountable engineering feat. I don't think this is what people think. An AF screw drive motor with controller is an easy thing to do indeed. But it's not where to start if you want to market an affordable adapter not consuming internal resources from R&D. A version 2 adapter is likely if the mirrorless camera succeeds. Economically, the screw drive AF adapter only makes sense for the DA limiteds. The big DA* lenses are all SDM. But maybe, Pentax plans to release mirrorless versions of the DA Limiteds as they could be made smaller, esp. below 40mm.

01-23-2011, 12:20 AM	#123
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Kenn100D NC-1 = Nikon Canon minus 1 =) Seriously, Pentax is innovation. Probably NC is "New Concept" in mirrorless tech. I think it's more easy...Non-mirror camera - 1. As mentioned above

01-23-2011, 05:15 AM	#124
techmulla Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 107	Or nc may stand for non conformists

01-23-2011, 06:22 AM	#125
timh Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wales Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 445	Quote: Pentax US has said it has not ruled out introducing a mirrorless interchangable lens camera. Chris Pound, Product Manager, Digital Imaging Systems said: 'if a product makes sense, and is feasible economically, we'll come out with it'. NC = Non-Committal?

01-23-2011, 07:42 AM	#127
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	NC? Not a Canon? Nikon Copy? Nevertheless, please Consider?

01-23-2011, 07:52 PM	#128
openyourap Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 171	I'm expecting the C to reflect the C-mount or CS mount flange focal distance. Pentax already has plenty of lens designs for this distance, but I expect a new mount in order for it to be more consumer friendly and to play nice with DA* and other K-mount lenses, via adaptors. Adaptors could also provide native support for lenses from other DSLR manufacturers . An APS-C sensor could be cropped in-camera whenever a lens circle doesn't provide full coverage.

01-23-2011, 10:28 PM	#129
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Cine mount and circuit tv lenses and now this. Make sense.

01-24-2011, 02:37 AM	#130
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552	Quote: NC-1? Well, when I first heard about the digital 110 mirrorless rumor, my initial guess for a possible name was CX. This combination, however, is already used by e.g. Citroën, Chrysler and Cathay Pacific ... If you believe in conspiracy theories, then you might be interested that the ASCII code for capital N is 78 and for lowercase n is 110 (thus nC = 110 Camera)

01-24-2011, 04:11 AM - 1 Like	#131
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Lens adapters are expensive, the K-mount adapter for Samsung NX-serie (with only manual focus) cost as a new Sigma zoom... The Olympus OM-adapter for 4/3 is also as expensive. Novoflex third party adapters is less expensive, but still cost quite much money for what is essentially only a metal ring with some mechanics. Adding lens motor and circuits and controls for this to drive screwdriven AF lenses and price goes up, way beyond what most wants to pay for such an accessory. It can be done, but not to a good price. This limits the market appeal.

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01-24-2011, 03:42 PM	#132
Kenn100D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paranaque City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 697	what if the mount is an improved screwmount. Then use of an PK-Adaptor will be good to APS-C

01-24-2011, 04:39 PM	#133
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	And so much we already know: Pentax NC-1 Camera

01-24-2011, 04:43 PM	#134
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by elho_cid And so much we already know: Pentax NC-1 Camera o wow they also listed the K-r and K-5 names early stage. So this is going to happen.

01-24-2011, 05:57 PM	#135
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	It Easy to write potential spec. Just make sure you put everything that all modern camera have