The forthcoming Pentax Mirrorless Camera

ogl · 01-22-2011, 06:03 AM

There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount.

blende8 · 01-22-2011, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by ogl

There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount.

What do you mean by "micro-SLR camera"?
A camera with mirror, but significantly smaller than current DSLRs?

Supernaut · 01-22-2011, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by ogl

There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount.

It's hard to make a K-mount camera smaller than the K-x. Unless the O/EVF is skipped.

ogl · 01-22-2011, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What do you mean by "micro-SLR camera"?
A camera with mirror, but significantly smaller than current DSLRs?

Yes. Auto 110 in digital version. It's just my guess.

ogl · 01-22-2011, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What do you mean by "micro-SLR camera"?
A camera with mirror, but significantly smaller than current DSLRs?

The rumors say Pentax will offer 2 cameras this spring with "non-classical" design - digital Auto 110 and EVIL. Auto 110 was SLR camera.

I doubt that "digital auto 110 slr" and EVIL will have different mounts.

But it could be very banal move - like NX10 and NX100 cameras.

vinzer · 01-22-2011, 07:14 AM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Pentax rumors: k-5 Silver, compact RZ-18 and mirrorless NC-1 cameras coming next | Photo Rumors

Thanks. I hope PhotoRumors can finagle some more information, even if just sensor size. That will tell a lot about which direction Hoya intends to take regarding mirrorless cameras.

ogl · 01-22-2011, 07:21 AM

It's interested why NC? Norton Commander? New Camera?

1shot · 01-22-2011, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by ogl

It's interested why NC? Norton Commander? New Camera?

N - non-mirror? Same letter as NX, NEX, perhaps indicating aps-c somehow?

C - camera? compact? Or new mount called C mount?

And with sequential model numbering like GH1 GH2, so they are naming it right in line with other mirror-less cameras already on the market.

Brangdon · 01-22-2011, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by timh

I can't see any point at all to having a large mirrorless camera. The only reason to lose the mirror is to reduce size - otherwise anything you can do with an EVIL you can do with an SLR. Just switch it to live view.

The mirror is a precision moving part. It ought to be cheaper and more reliable and lighter to get rid of it. Also a good EVF can have some advantages over Live View.

I have to say I am bothered by the thought of a new Pentax camera with interchangeable lenses which isn't K-mount. They'd have to produce a whole new range of lenses, and I doubt they'd have the capacity to do that and still produce new K-mount lenses for their old customers.

blende8 · 01-22-2011, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by 1shot

Or new mount called C mount?

There is already a C-mount:
C mount - Wikipedia

NC = Not Compatible.

1shot · 01-22-2011, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by blende8

NC = Not Compatible.

LOL. Nice one.

falconeye · 01-22-2011, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by 1shot

N - non-mirror? Same letter as NX, NEX, perhaps indicating aps-c somehow?

I think NX and NEX are wordplays with "Next". Remember the NeXT Cube?

N as in NC for "Next" wouldn't make sense as it breaks the wordplay. May mean "New Camera" or "Next Camera" but wouldn't be very innovative.

"Pentax NC-1" is a good term to google for. Nothing else but the photorumours source.

RMabo · 01-22-2011, 11:47 AM

NC = New Compact? New Camera?
Anyway, I don't believe in Auto 110 digital. It is wishful thinking here, for nostalgic reasons - a digital version of the Auto 110 with the same lens mount and similar styling and small size. No, I don't believe in it.

However, Pentax may very well release more compact camera with replaceable lenses and no mirror.

But if they do, we will have fewer new lenses developed for the K-mount.
Pentax are already struggling developing lenses for APS-C and the new 645D. Add another lens mount, ooooh... There hasn't been so many new lenses coming for our beloved (?) APS-C in recent years. The 18-55 WR, 50-200 WR and 100 Macro WR only changed exterior design.. Sure the new 18-135 is nice but we want more.

But perhaps Pentax spent the time developing lenses for another lens mount...
For me, most logical solution would be micro 4/3 for Pentax since this mount already have lenses for it and Pentax only needs to design some very special ones - like Limiteds but for micro 4/3. There are indeed rumours about 17 f/2 or f/2.8 (FOV equivalent to a 34-35mm lens for 24x36) and 14 f/2.8 (FOV equivalent to a 28 f/2.8).

But what could Pentax offer that Panasonic and Olympus aren't already offering?
I don't know.

Kenn100D · 01-22-2011, 12:10 PM

NC-1 = Nikon Canon minus 1 =)

Seriously, Pentax is innovation. Probably NC is "New Concept" in mirrorless tech.

gazonk · 01-22-2011, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by ogl

There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount.

Reminds me of my illustration from some months ago - of LX scaled down with the APS-C crop factor :-)

01-22-2011, 06:53 AM	#110
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by blende8 What do you mean by "micro-SLR camera"? A camera with mirror, but significantly smaller than current DSLRs? The rumors say Pentax will offer 2 cameras this spring with "non-classical" design - digital Auto 110 and EVIL. Auto 110 was SLR camera. I doubt that "digital auto 110 slr" and EVIL will have different mounts. But it could be very banal move - like NX10 and NX100 cameras. Last edited by ogl; 01-22-2011 at 07:20 AM.

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01-22-2011, 06:03 AM	#106
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount.

01-22-2011, 06:18 AM	#107
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by ogl There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount. What do you mean by "micro-SLR camera"? A camera with mirror, but significantly smaller than current DSLRs?

01-22-2011, 06:26 AM	#108
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	Originally posted by ogl There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount. It's hard to make a K-mount camera smaller than the K-x. Unless the O/EVF is skipped.

01-22-2011, 06:26 AM	#109
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by blende8 What do you mean by "micro-SLR camera"? A camera with mirror, but significantly smaller than current DSLRs? Yes. Auto 110 in digital version. It's just my guess.

01-22-2011, 07:14 AM	#111
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Originally posted by zackspeed Pentax rumors: k-5 Silver, compact RZ-18 and mirrorless NC-1 cameras coming next \| Photo Rumors Thanks. I hope PhotoRumors can finagle some more information, even if just sensor size. That will tell a lot about which direction Hoya intends to take regarding mirrorless cameras.

01-22-2011, 07:21 AM	#112
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	It's interested why NC? Norton Commander? New Camera?

01-22-2011, 08:33 AM	#113
1shot Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 30	Originally posted by ogl It's interested why NC? Norton Commander? New Camera? N - non-mirror? Same letter as NX, NEX, perhaps indicating aps-c somehow? C - camera? compact? Or new mount called C mount? And with sequential model numbering like GH1 GH2, so they are naming it right in line with other mirror-less cameras already on the market.

01-22-2011, 08:34 AM	#114
Brangdon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nottingham Posts: 172	Originally posted by timh I can't see any point at all to having a large mirrorless camera. The only reason to lose the mirror is to reduce size - otherwise anything you can do with an EVIL you can do with an SLR. Just switch it to live view. The mirror is a precision moving part. It ought to be cheaper and more reliable and lighter to get rid of it. Also a good EVF can have some advantages over Live View. I have to say I am bothered by the thought of a new Pentax camera with interchangeable lenses which isn't K-mount. They'd have to produce a whole new range of lenses, and I doubt they'd have the capacity to do that and still produce new K-mount lenses for their old customers.

01-22-2011, 08:40 AM	#115
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by 1shot Or new mount called C mount? There is already a C-mount: C mount - Wikipedia NC = Not Compatible.

01-22-2011, 10:53 AM	#116
1shot Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Utah Posts: 30	Originally posted by blende8 NC = Not Compatible. LOL. Nice one.

01-22-2011, 11:25 AM	#117
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871 Original Poster	Originally posted by 1shot N - non-mirror? Same letter as NX, NEX, perhaps indicating aps-c somehow? I think NX and NEX are wordplays with "Next". Remember the NeXT Cube? N as in NC for "Next" wouldn't make sense as it breaks the wordplay. May mean "New Camera" or "Next Camera" but wouldn't be very innovative. "Pentax NC-1" is a good term to google for. Nothing else but the photorumours source.

01-22-2011, 11:47 AM	#118
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	NC = New Compact? New Camera? Anyway, I don't believe in Auto 110 digital. It is wishful thinking here, for nostalgic reasons - a digital version of the Auto 110 with the same lens mount and similar styling and small size. No, I don't believe in it. However, Pentax may very well release more compact camera with replaceable lenses and no mirror. But if they do, we will have fewer new lenses developed for the K-mount. Pentax are already struggling developing lenses for APS-C and the new 645D. Add another lens mount, ooooh... There hasn't been so many new lenses coming for our beloved (?) APS-C in recent years. The 18-55 WR, 50-200 WR and 100 Macro WR only changed exterior design.. Sure the new 18-135 is nice but we want more. But perhaps Pentax spent the time developing lenses for another lens mount... For me, most logical solution would be micro 4/3 for Pentax since this mount already have lenses for it and Pentax only needs to design some very special ones - like Limiteds but for micro 4/3. There are indeed rumours about 17 f/2 or f/2.8 (FOV equivalent to a 34-35mm lens for 24x36) and 14 f/2.8 (FOV equivalent to a 28 f/2.8). But what could Pentax offer that Panasonic and Olympus aren't already offering? I don't know.

01-22-2011, 12:10 PM	#119
Kenn100D Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paranaque City, Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 697	NC-1 = Nikon Canon minus 1 =) Seriously, Pentax is innovation. Probably NC is "New Concept" in mirrorless tech.

01-22-2011, 12:50 PM	#120
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by ogl There will be also micro-SLR camera. I think it will has either NC-1's bayonet, or K-mount. Reminds me of my illustration from some months ago - of LX scaled down with the APS-C crop factor :-)