Pentax EVIL NC-1 has smaller sensor than APS-C - your opinion?

Winder · 06-22-2011, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Pentx has been on a bit of a hit streak lately - K-x, 645d, K-5, so maybe the deserve the benefit of the doubt...

I will be happy to be wrong and I hope Pentax sells millions of them.

Most people who don't care about sensor size and just want a small convenient camera also don't care about interchangeable lenses. These people are not going to shell out $600+ dollars for a camera.

IMHO the people who are willing to deal with different lenses also have higher IQ standards and demands which a mini-sensor camera does not address.

It looks like the perfect example of what NOT to build.

Pentaxor · 06-22-2011, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Winder

Pentax must have some strong marketing data to show that there is demand for something like this. I don't see the need. There are plenty of good options in the mini sensor market segment. I hope Pentax did not spend a lot of money on product development for some thing like this.

for certain, they didn't consult a marketing data from Pentax Users if that was the case. :ugh:

Pentaxor · 06-22-2011, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Pentx has been on a bit of a hit streak lately - K-x, 645d, K-5, so maybe the deserve the benefit of the doubt...

that would had been ok except how could anyone not remember about this Pentax experiment? >>>>>

nevermind. I guess the experiment is a forgettable failure not worth reminiscing. :ugh:

pxpaulx · 06-22-2011, 11:45 AM

I remember that awful thing quite clearly! It rivals the best retro designs from the likes of vivitar and any number of other junk 5mp camera types you can find on daily deal sites every day of the week.

Olympus has done retro extremely well with their m4/3 cameras - Pentax doesn't have to follow their design, but they certainly need to do a lot better than the digital i-10!

Emacs · 06-22-2011, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

Pentx has been on a bit of a hit streak lately - K-x, 645d, K-5, so maybe the deserve the benefit of the doubt...

As I know many shops refuses from K-5 due to much quality issues.

eddie1960 · 06-22-2011, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Emacs

As I know many shops refuses from K-5 due to much quality issues.

that must be a russian thing because over here none of them seem to be able to even keep it in stock, and every major camera retailer I now in Canada carries it (though the general electronics big box stores do not)

thibs · 06-22-2011, 01:20 PM

Europe, AFAICT it is a success too.

Pentaxor · 06-22-2011, 01:24 PM

the K-5 is doing just fine. the concern however is if Pentax continue to insist on having a 1/2.33 size sensor camera selling as much as the rival m4/3 and APS-C MILCs. personally, I won't invest $500 on an inflated $50 dollar camera.

johnmflores · 06-22-2011, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Pentaxor

the K-5 is doing just fine. the concern however is if Pentax continue to insist on having a 1/2.33 size sensor camera selling as much as the rival m4/3 and APS-C MILCs. personally, I won't invest $500 on an inflated $50 dollar camera.

Well it's still all just a rumor as far as I know, so there's no use getting hot under the collar just yet. I'm just saying that Pentax has shown some product savvy lately, so I'd be surprised if the released a dud. We don't know the sensor size. We don't know the price. Heck, we don't know anything.

And even if it is a smaller sensor, we in this forum just might have to admit that Pentax has decided that it's time to see other people...

glanglois · 06-22-2011, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Pentaxor

the K-5 is doing just fine. the concern however is if Pentax continue to insist on having a 1/2.33 size sensor camera selling as much as the rival m4/3 and APS-C MILCs. personally, I won't invest $500 on an inflated $50 dollar camera.

Don't blame you, but I don't think we're invited to this particular party.

Pentaxor · 06-22-2011, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by johnmflores

And even if it is a smaller sensor, we in this forum just might have to admit that Pentax has decided that it's time to see other people...

well, atleast I'll be the one to do the dumping first if that happens, not Pentax.

jeztastic · 06-22-2011, 01:58 PM

Apparently this is the back...

Mirrorless Rumors | Blog | First image of the back of the Pentax NC-1

uccemebug · 06-22-2011, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Biro

What if Pentax is completely faking everyone out and this imminent launch is for something really good?

So it's come to this. 8^D

Originally posted by jeztastic

Apparently this is the back...

Mirrorless Rumors | Blog | First image of the back of the Pentax NC-1

That's a damn small camera indeed if it's an interchangeable-lens system.

Quicksand · 06-22-2011, 02:54 PM

With a sensor size of 1/2.33, sensor dust will look like OMG SENSOR BOULDERS!!!!

twitch · 06-22-2011, 03:07 PM

Disappointing, looks like the tiny sensor MILC is being released first, with (fingers crossed) a big sensor MILC in a couple of months.

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06-22-2011, 10:53 AM	#931
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by johnmflores Pentx has been on a bit of a hit streak lately - K-x, 645d, K-5, so maybe the deserve the benefit of the doubt... I will be happy to be wrong and I hope Pentax sells millions of them. Most people who don't care about sensor size and just want a small convenient camera also don't care about interchangeable lenses. These people are not going to shell out $600+ dollars for a camera. IMHO the people who are willing to deal with different lenses also have higher IQ standards and demands which a mini-sensor camera does not address. It looks like the perfect example of what NOT to build.

06-22-2011, 11:23 AM	#932
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by Winder Pentax must have some strong marketing data to show that there is demand for something like this. I don't see the need. There are plenty of good options in the mini sensor market segment. I hope Pentax did not spend a lot of money on product development for some thing like this. for certain, they didn't consult a marketing data from Pentax Users if that was the case. :ugh:

06-22-2011, 11:31 AM	#933
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by johnmflores Pentx has been on a bit of a hit streak lately - K-x, 645d, K-5, so maybe the deserve the benefit of the doubt... that would had been ok except how could anyone not remember about this Pentax experiment? >>>>> nevermind. I guess the experiment is a forgettable failure not worth reminiscing. :ugh:

06-22-2011, 11:45 AM	#934
pxpaulx Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 2,867	I remember that awful thing quite clearly! It rivals the best retro designs from the likes of vivitar and any number of other junk 5mp camera types you can find on daily deal sites every day of the week. Olympus has done retro extremely well with their m4/3 cameras - Pentax doesn't have to follow their design, but they certainly need to do a lot better than the digital i-10!

06-22-2011, 12:08 PM	#935
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by johnmflores Pentx has been on a bit of a hit streak lately - K-x, 645d, K-5, so maybe the deserve the benefit of the doubt... As I know many shops refuses from K-5 due to much quality issues.

06-22-2011, 12:58 PM	#936
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by Emacs As I know many shops refuses from K-5 due to much quality issues. that must be a russian thing because over here none of them seem to be able to even keep it in stock, and every major camera retailer I now in Canada carries it (though the general electronics big box stores do not)

06-22-2011, 01:20 PM	#937
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Europe, AFAICT it is a success too.

06-22-2011, 01:24 PM	#938
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	the K-5 is doing just fine. the concern however is if Pentax continue to insist on having a 1/2.33 size sensor camera selling as much as the rival m4/3 and APS-C MILCs. personally, I won't invest $500 on an inflated $50 dollar camera.

06-22-2011, 01:42 PM	#939
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Pentaxor the K-5 is doing just fine. the concern however is if Pentax continue to insist on having a 1/2.33 size sensor camera selling as much as the rival m4/3 and APS-C MILCs. personally, I won't invest $500 on an inflated $50 dollar camera. Well it's still all just a rumor as far as I know, so there's no use getting hot under the collar just yet. I'm just saying that Pentax has shown some product savvy lately, so I'd be surprised if the released a dud. We don't know the sensor size. We don't know the price. Heck, we don't know anything. And even if it is a smaller sensor, we in this forum just might have to admit that Pentax has decided that it's time to see other people...

06-22-2011, 01:51 PM	#940
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by Pentaxor the K-5 is doing just fine. the concern however is if Pentax continue to insist on having a 1/2.33 size sensor camera selling as much as the rival m4/3 and APS-C MILCs. personally, I won't invest $500 on an inflated $50 dollar camera. Don't blame you, but I don't think we're invited to this particular party.

06-22-2011, 01:55 PM	#941
Pentaxor Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,513	Originally posted by johnmflores And even if it is a smaller sensor, we in this forum just might have to admit that Pentax has decided that it's time to see other people... well, atleast I'll be the one to do the dumping first if that happens, not Pentax.

06-22-2011, 02:05 PM	#943
uccemebug Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Originally posted by Biro What if Pentax is completely faking everyone out and this imminent launch is for something really good? So it's come to this. 8^D Originally posted by jeztastic Apparently this is the back... Mirrorless Rumors \| Blog \| First image of the back of the Pentax NC-1 That's a damn small camera indeed if it's an interchangeable-lens system.

06-22-2011, 02:54 PM	#944
Quicksand Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Ohio (formerly SF Bay Area) Posts: 1,519	With a sensor size of 1/2.33, sensor dust will look like OMG SENSOR BOULDERS!!!!

06-22-2011, 03:07 PM	#945
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	Disappointing, looks like the tiny sensor MILC is being released first, with (fingers crossed) a big sensor MILC in a couple of months.