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blende8 · 10-18-2007, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

"Pentax *need* another sensor supplier."

Yes...That is correct...Or manufacturer

What's the difference?

**barondla** · 10-18-2007, 06:01 AM

Added a K10D to my DS kit. Sure don't regret doing it. The DS mostly sits at home. K10D adds so much control over the image that the DS lacks or only does slowly. Do wish the K10D was a little smaller.
Can't wait to see what they do next in Jan. Should be interesting. Hope it works out well for them. Like the way the Nikon allows using aps lenses on FF body.
thanks
barondla

jeffkrol · 10-18-2007, 06:42 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What's the difference?

Not to put words in Ben's mouth but I think he's hinting that Pentax designed their own and now needs someone to "fab" it. Unlike an "off the shelf" package (w possible modifications) as is the Sony sensor(s). Not sure how this would help the bottom line though. It looks to be a costly project if in fact it exists. Unless Sony's way overcharging for an off the shelf sensor. Nikon's modifications to the existing Sony sensor for the 200 were not "earth shattering" and probably simple to do and probaly relatively cheap. A whole new "design" would not be.
Even if this were so, I'd lean towords Samsung as the "manufacturer" BUT I'm getting a bit leary that Hoytax wants to deal w/ a Korean company.

and · 10-18-2007, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by barondla

Added a K10D to my DS kit. Sure don't regret doing it. The DS mostly sits at home. K10D adds so much control over the image that the DS lacks or only does slowly. Do wish the K10D was a little smaller.
Can't wait to see what they do next in Jan. Should be interesting. Hope it works out well for them. Like the way the Nikon allows using aps lenses on FF body.
thanks
barondla

I actually find my DS uncomforable after getting used to k10d with grip, especially with heavier lenses I find my whole hand does not fit and my pinky ends up holding under the bottom of the camera and has to support the camera from not tilting forward due to the heavy lens and that gets sore fast.

I wouldnt mind if the k10d got a big lighter, and the size can be annoying when packing it in a bag, but its very usefull when shooting. the grip on the battery grip could be more comfortable though, its not as wide as the one on the main body.

Mats · 10-18-2007, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by blende8

What's the difference?

My interpretation:
Supplier = buy sensor designed and manufactured by someone else.
Manufacturer = Let someone produce your own sensor design.

The manufacturer alternative is interesting...
/Mats

and · 10-18-2007, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by Mats

My interpretation:
Supplier = buy sensor designed and manufactured by someone else.
Manufacturer = Let someone produce your own sensor design.
/Mats

thats how i see it too

thibs · 10-18-2007, 08:17 AM

Geeeeez and we have to wait for January to know... Huh that it sooooo far away

blende8 · 10-18-2007, 09:14 AM

Hmm, this is strange.
Why should a sensor designed by Pentax be better?

Not Registered · 10-18-2007, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by blende8

Hmm, this is strange.
Why should a sensor designed by Pentax be better?

Good question. I just hope that it processes the images faster than the ability of the company to deliver new products

time-snaps · 10-18-2007, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Richard Day

However for FF film cameras (and APS digital) they still list:
... FA*300 f2.8,....

sorry to barge in on this amusing rumour threat. But where in the world can I purchase a new FA* 300mm f2.8?! (says it, money in hand...)

Thanks

and · 10-18-2007, 10:32 AM

Well I know they have them in japan where it is available for ¥396,886. the FA 600 is ¥759,800.

They make these to order, so I would contact Pentax UK and tell them you want this lens and ask how it can be arranged...

Ray Pulley · 10-18-2007, 10:42 AM

Originally posted by and

thats how i see it too

Here's someone who will make you a custom sensor:

Products

They recently annouced a 14mp 35mm sensor as well.

Ray

time-snaps · 10-18-2007, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Ray Pulley

Here's someone who will make you a custom sensor:

Products

They recently annouced a 14mp 35mm sensor as well.

Ray

Could you kindly point us to the Announcement... can't find it anywhere. Perhaps it was pulled by Hoytax [or should that be Pentoya]... haha

ricardobeat · 10-18-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by anomaly

Laser assisted autofocus would be a boon.

Yeah, specially for portraits.

digitaldevo · 10-18-2007, 11:29 AM

Why doesn't Pentax look into "adopting" the FoveonX3 technology sensor!? The Foveon sensor is honestly the best sensor ever made. The technology has sooooo much potential and does soooo well as it is right now, but it is sooo limited only being in Sigma's camera bodies! A Pentax body with a Foveon X3 sensor would be a camera to drool over!

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10-18-2007, 05:50 AM	#181
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Originally posted by benjikan "Pentax need another sensor supplier." Yes...That is correct...Or manufacturer What's the difference?

10-18-2007, 06:01 AM	#182
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,717	Added a K10D to my DS kit. Sure don't regret doing it. The DS mostly sits at home. K10D adds so much control over the image that the DS lacks or only does slowly. Do wish the K10D was a little smaller. Can't wait to see what they do next in Jan. Should be interesting. Hope it works out well for them. Like the way the Nikon allows using aps lenses on FF body. thanks barondla

10-18-2007, 06:42 AM	#183
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	Originally posted by blende8 What's the difference? Not to put words in Ben's mouth but I think he's hinting that Pentax designed their own and now needs someone to "fab" it. Unlike an "off the shelf" package (w possible modifications) as is the Sony sensor(s). Not sure how this would help the bottom line though. It looks to be a costly project if in fact it exists. Unless Sony's way overcharging for an off the shelf sensor. Nikon's modifications to the existing Sony sensor for the 200 were not "earth shattering" and probably simple to do and probaly relatively cheap. A whole new "design" would not be. Even if this were so, I'd lean towords Samsung as the "manufacturer" BUT I'm getting a bit leary that Hoytax wants to deal w/ a Korean company.

10-18-2007, 06:49 AM	#184
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by barondla Added a K10D to my DS kit. Sure don't regret doing it. The DS mostly sits at home. K10D adds so much control over the image that the DS lacks or only does slowly. Do wish the K10D was a little smaller. Can't wait to see what they do next in Jan. Should be interesting. Hope it works out well for them. Like the way the Nikon allows using aps lenses on FF body. thanks barondla I actually find my DS uncomforable after getting used to k10d with grip, especially with heavier lenses I find my whole hand does not fit and my pinky ends up holding under the bottom of the camera and has to support the camera from not tilting forward due to the heavy lens and that gets sore fast. I wouldnt mind if the k10d got a big lighter, and the size can be annoying when packing it in a bag, but its very usefull when shooting. the grip on the battery grip could be more comfortable though, its not as wide as the one on the main body.

10-18-2007, 07:44 AM	#185
Mats Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 60	Originally posted by blende8 What's the difference? My interpretation: Supplier = buy sensor designed and manufactured by someone else. Manufacturer = Let someone produce your own sensor design. The manufacturer alternative is interesting... /Mats

10-18-2007, 07:57 AM	#186
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by Mats My interpretation: Supplier = buy sensor designed and manufactured by someone else. Manufacturer = Let someone produce your own sensor design. /Mats thats how i see it too

10-18-2007, 08:17 AM	#187
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Geeeeez and we have to wait for January to know... Huh that it sooooo far away

10-18-2007, 09:14 AM	#188
blende8 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bremen, Germany Photos: Albums Posts: 1,521	Hmm, this is strange. Why should a sensor designed by Pentax be better?

10-18-2007, 09:19 AM	#189
Not Registered Guest	Originally posted by blende8 Hmm, this is strange. Why should a sensor designed by Pentax be better? Good question. I just hope that it processes the images faster than the ability of the company to deliver new products

10-18-2007, 10:22 AM	#190
time-snaps Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beijing, China Photos: Gallery Posts: 86	Originally posted by Richard Day However for FF film cameras (and APS digital) they still list: ... FA300 f2.8,.... sorry to barge in on this amusing rumour threat. But where in the world can I purchase a new FA 300mm f2.8?! (says it, money in hand...) Thanks

10-18-2007, 10:32 AM	#191
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Well I know they have them in japan where it is available for ¥396,886. the FA 600 is ¥759,800. They make these to order, so I would contact Pentax UK and tell them you want this lens and ask how it can be arranged...

10-18-2007, 10:42 AM	#192
Ray Pulley Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fallon Nevada Photos: Albums Posts: 504	Originally posted by and thats how i see it too Here's someone who will make you a custom sensor: Products They recently annouced a 14mp 35mm sensor as well. Ray

10-18-2007, 10:46 AM	#193
time-snaps Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beijing, China Photos: Gallery Posts: 86	Originally posted by Ray Pulley Here's someone who will make you a custom sensor: Products They recently annouced a 14mp 35mm sensor as well. Ray Could you kindly point us to the Announcement... can't find it anywhere. Perhaps it was pulled by Hoytax [or should that be Pentoya]... haha

10-18-2007, 11:27 AM	#194
ricardobeat Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 376	Originally posted by anomaly Laser assisted autofocus would be a boon. Yeah, specially for portraits.

10-18-2007, 11:29 AM	#195
digitaldevo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: PA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 154	Why doesn't Pentax look into "adopting" the FoveonX3 technology sensor!? The Foveon sensor is honestly the best sensor ever made. The technology has sooooo much potential and does soooo well as it is right now, but it is sooo limited only being in Sigma's camera bodies! A Pentax body with a Foveon X3 sensor would be a camera to drool over!

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