Oh hey: Tumax flash with wireless P-TTL

mattdm · 02-08-2011, 03:31 PM

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Check out the DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ, which they say does wireless TTL. Anyone spotted this in a rebranded sold-in-the-US incarnation yet?

retroflex · 02-09-2011, 06:24 AM

Guessing this is a Dörr DAF42 rebrand?
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I bought one of these recently and it does not work as a slave since it triggers on the P-TTL pre-flash. For manual lenses it works though, as the camera won't pre-flash then.

mattdm · 02-09-2011, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by retroflex

Guessing this is a Dörr DAF42 rebrand?
ArticleGroup

I bought one of these recently and it does not work as a slave since it triggers on the P-TTL pre-flash. For manual lenses it works though, as the camera won't pre-flash then.

Yes, Dörr appears to be reselling the Tumax/Icorp flashes. The DAF-42, though, appears to be a variant of the DPT386AFZ. That flash has a "dumb slave" mode as you describe. The new model DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ apparently has actually reverse-engineered wireless P-TTL protocol support.

And, apparently it has a "built-in reprogram socket" [sic], which takes care of one of my main concerns with these flashes. (See this recent thread.)

retroflex · 02-11-2011, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by mattdm

Yes, Dörr appears to be reselling the Tumax/Icorp flashes. The DAF-42, though, appears to be a variant of the DPT386AFZ. That flash has a "dumb slave" mode as you describe. The new model DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ apparently has actually reverse-engineered wireless P-TTL protocol support.

And, apparently it has a "built-in reprogram socket" [sic], which takes care of one of my main concerns with these flashes. (See this recent thread.)

That's great, thanks for the info. Don't know of the price of this flash in other areas, but in Sweden the Dörr DAF-42 gives you very much back for the buck, if you don't have the need for wireless that is. It works very good on camera and costs ~ half of Sigma/Metz flashes and a third of Pentax 540 (comparing tilt+swivel flashes). Can really recommend it!

2OLD2WAIT · 03-21-2011, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by mattdm

Check out the DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ, which they say does wireless TTL. Anyone spotted this in a rebranded sold-in-the-US incarnation yet?

I bought one for my PENTAX K20D. It's offered in the US under the brand names of Rokinon and Digital Concepts, with the model no. D980AF-P TTL AF with a power zoom flash (internal zoom motor) allows camera to control distance, range and intensity of flash. AF Dedicated Power Zoom Flash w/Swivel & LCD Readout(also offered for canon and nikon with a diffferent applicable hotshoe mount adapted). Paid about a third and it did the job quite well...recommend it!

mattdm · 03-21-2011, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by 2OLD2WAIT

I bought one for my PENTAX K20D. It's offered in the US under the brand names of Rokinon and Digital Concepts, with the model no. D980AF-P TTL AF with a power zoom flash (internal zoom motor) allows camera to control distance, range and intensity of flash. AF Dedicated Power Zoom Flash w/Swivel & LCD Readout(also offered for canon and nikon with a diffferent applicable hotshoe mount adapted). Paid about a third and it did the job quite well...recommend it!

Are you sure? That looks like an incarnation of the non-wireless DPT383AFZ model.

GerryL · 04-05-2011, 05:22 PM

Matt, Vivitar now has them and I saw an ad for it in Shutterbug.
It is called the Vivitar DF-483.
B&H seem to be advertising it.
I is advertised as "Pro DSLR AF Flash.
Guide number: 50m at 105mm
Auto-focus TTL metering
Illuminated LCD display
High Speed Synchronization
Red eye reduction
Nikon and Canon only...as usual.
$199.95

Links:
Amazon.com: Vivitar PRO Flash VIV-DF-483-CAN for Canon SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo

Amazon.com: Vivitar PRO Flash VIV-DF-483-NIK for Nikon SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo

Vivitar DF-483 Wireless TTL LCD Flash for Canon | eBay

mattdm · 04-06-2011, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by GerryL

Matt, Vivitar now has them and I saw an ad for it in Shutterbug.
[...]
Nikon and Canon only...as usual.

Cool, thanks. I think the Pentax version will probably arrive eventually.

I wonder what's up with the discrepancy between Tumax's 58x number and Sakar/Vitvitar's 48x. It may mean something, and it may not.

02-08-2011, 03:31 PM	#1
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Oh hey: Tumax flash with wireless P-TTL Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Check out the DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ, which they say does wireless TTL. Anyone spotted this in a rebranded sold-in-the-US incarnation yet?

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02-09-2011, 06:24 AM	#2
retroflex Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mölnlycke Photos: Albums Posts: 98	Guessing this is a Dörr DAF42 rebrand? ArticleGroup I bought one of these recently and it does not work as a slave since it triggers on the P-TTL pre-flash. For manual lenses it works though, as the camera won't pre-flash then.

02-09-2011, 08:48 AM	#3
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948 Original Poster	Originally posted by retroflex Guessing this is a Dörr DAF42 rebrand? ArticleGroup I bought one of these recently and it does not work as a slave since it triggers on the P-TTL pre-flash. For manual lenses it works though, as the camera won't pre-flash then. Yes, Dörr appears to be reselling the Tumax/Icorp flashes. The DAF-42, though, appears to be a variant of the DPT386AFZ. That flash has a "dumb slave" mode as you describe. The new model DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ apparently has actually reverse-engineered wireless P-TTL protocol support. And, apparently it has a "built-in reprogram socket" [sic], which takes care of one of my main concerns with these flashes. (See this recent thread.)

02-11-2011, 07:36 AM	#4
retroflex Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mölnlycke Photos: Albums Posts: 98	Originally posted by mattdm Yes, Dörr appears to be reselling the Tumax/Icorp flashes. The DAF-42, though, appears to be a variant of the DPT386AFZ. That flash has a "dumb slave" mode as you describe. The new model DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ apparently has actually reverse-engineered wireless P-TTL protocol support. And, apparently it has a "built-in reprogram socket" [sic], which takes care of one of my main concerns with these flashes. (See this recent thread.) That's great, thanks for the info. Don't know of the price of this flash in other areas, but in Sweden the Dörr DAF-42 gives you very much back for the buck, if you don't have the need for wireless that is. It works very good on camera and costs ~ half of Sigma/Metz flashes and a third of Pentax 540 (comparing tilt+swivel flashes). Can really recommend it!

03-21-2011, 05:10 PM	#5
2OLD2WAIT Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: WESTFIELD, MASS Posts: 3	Originally posted by mattdm Check out the DPT586AFZ / DPT588AFZ, which they say does wireless TTL. Anyone spotted this in a rebranded sold-in-the-US incarnation yet? I bought one for my PENTAX K20D. It's offered in the US under the brand names of Rokinon and Digital Concepts, with the model no. D980AF-P TTL AF with a power zoom flash (internal zoom motor) allows camera to control distance, range and intensity of flash. AF Dedicated Power Zoom Flash w/Swivel & LCD Readout(also offered for canon and nikon with a diffferent applicable hotshoe mount adapted). Paid about a third and it did the job quite well...recommend it!

03-21-2011, 09:48 PM	#6
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948 Original Poster	Originally posted by 2OLD2WAIT I bought one for my PENTAX K20D. It's offered in the US under the brand names of Rokinon and Digital Concepts, with the model no. D980AF-P TTL AF with a power zoom flash (internal zoom motor) allows camera to control distance, range and intensity of flash. AF Dedicated Power Zoom Flash w/Swivel & LCD Readout(also offered for canon and nikon with a diffferent applicable hotshoe mount adapted). Paid about a third and it did the job quite well...recommend it! Are you sure? That looks like an incarnation of the non-wireless DPT383AFZ model.

04-05-2011, 05:22 PM	#7
GerryL Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Posts: 2,731	Matt, Vivitar now has them and I saw an ad for it in Shutterbug. It is called the Vivitar DF-483. B&H seem to be advertising it. I is advertised as "Pro DSLR AF Flash. Guide number: 50m at 105mm Auto-focus TTL metering Illuminated LCD display High Speed Synchronization Red eye reduction Nikon and Canon only...as usual. $199.95 Links: Amazon.com: Vivitar PRO Flash VIV-DF-483-CAN for Canon SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo Amazon.com: Vivitar PRO Flash VIV-DF-483-NIK for Nikon SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo Vivitar DF-483 Wireless TTL LCD Flash for Canon \| eBay

04-06-2011, 09:15 AM	#8
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948 Original Poster	Originally posted by GerryL Matt, Vivitar now has them and I saw an ad for it in Shutterbug. [...] Nikon and Canon only...as usual. Cool, thanks. I think the Pentax version will probably arrive eventually. I wonder what's up with the discrepancy between Tumax's 58x number and Sakar/Vitvitar's 48x. It may mean something, and it may not.

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