Samsung NX Getting More Serious

thibs · 02-20-2011, 08:20 AM

Samsung will need (as pan/oly) to go higher end/ higher margins.

RayGunn · 02-20-2011, 08:23 AM

LMAO...
You're worried about how a camera "looks" with a big lens attached?
OK, just for those with this worry, here's how it "looks":

The Mother of all Telephotos | B&H Photo Video

RonHendriks1966 · 02-20-2011, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by RayGunn

LMAO...
You're worried about how a camera "looks" with a big lens attached?
OK, just for those with this worry, here's how it "looks":

The Mother of all Telephotos | B&H Photo Video

There is also a Pentax 1200mm/f8 lens, that is a lot smaller in size, but still uge.

juu · 02-20-2011, 09:41 AM

The primes they promise are certainly a step in the right direction. But I'm not sure if the NX-es are selling well anywhere except for Korea. BCN rankings and Amazon have them way way down the list. I'd be a bit scared buying into such a system, but perhaps by the time they have these lenses available things will have changed.

thibs · 02-20-2011, 10:20 AM

And that one is nice as well: K 2000/13.5 Reflex

How many sold though, probably not much if any.

Mistral75 · 02-21-2011, 02:38 PM

Official confirmation of Samsung's 2011 roadmap:

Samsung announces five NX camera system lenses: Digital Photography Review

Samsung’s 2011 New NX Lenses are revealed! SamsungImaging – Samsung Cameras & Camcorders Blog

Urkeldaedalus · 02-21-2011, 03:38 PM

That 16 f/2.4 pancake sounds interesting. Be interested to see the image quality from that one.

Caat · 02-22-2011, 05:56 AM

Regarding the 700mm

Assuming it's ~f/5.6 and not a mirror lens it's going to be huge and exceptionally expensive. I guess you could get away with f/6.3 as well and still be able to market it.

Anyway. Micro mount cameras on mega-teles just mean that you design both the lens and the camera as one ergonomic entity.

i.e. put shutter controls and dials on the lens itself. Literally the camera becomes just the imager and everthing is actually controlled from the lens. You can then design the lens to be what you hold and the camera is an accersory for the lens as it were.

Given that the lens could weigh 5 or more times the camera it's a feasable approach.

dankoBanana · 02-22-2011, 07:08 AM

30mm f2, 16mm f2.4m, 20mm f2.8

seems to that pentax is lagging behind Samsung in fast pancake development

Asahiflex · 02-22-2011, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by dankoBanana

30mm f2, 16mm f2.4m, 20mm f2.8

seems to that pentax is lagging behind Samsung in fast pancake development

Pentax is not lagging behind. The lenses can be made faster for APS-C DSLR, but because of the smaller registration distance the optical design is easier for Samsung.

Personally I'll wait to see what Pentax is up to. I was never too impressed with Samsung.

ogl · 02-22-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Pentax is not lagging behind. The lenses can be made faster for APS-C DSLR, but because of the smaller registration distance the optical design is easier for Samsung.

Personally I'll wait to see what Pentax is up to. I was never too impressed with Samsung.

30/2 is excellent lens, 20/2.8 is very good.

**Rondec** · 02-22-2011, 09:08 AM

Seems like currently Samsung is hampered most by the fact that their sensor technology seems pretty stagnate. Feels a little like the four thirds cameras, where the cameras are nice, but their sensors are no longer cutting edge.

thibs · 02-22-2011, 09:08 AM

But none of these lenses were dine by Samsung

Jasvox · 02-26-2011, 06:04 AM

The coolest thing about clicking on that link are the photos of the cute model, end of story.

Jason

vinzer · 02-27-2011, 07:03 PM

Well, at least Samsung isn't going into the whole mirrorless derby with mediocre effort, I'll give them that. For existing NX system users (though admittedly, I haven't seen one in my area thus far), the promise of such rapid lens development is a positive for them.

I wouldn't worry so much about their old sensor, they'll eventually make better ones - I think the worrisome point in the NX system is the lack of third-party support I've seen thus far.

The local prices here are pretty tempting, though. There's an NX100 bundle here that's selling for just over $500, and it includes the body, 20-50mm lens, 20mm pancake, and a small external flash. If I weren't saving up for some WR lenses, I'd be willing to try this one.

02-20-2011, 08:23 AM	#32
RayGunn Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Northern Nevada Posts: 198	Let me see if I understand... LMAO... You're worried about how a camera "looks" with a big lens attached? OK, just for those with this worry, here's how it "looks": The Mother of all Telephotos \| B&H Photo Video

02-21-2011, 02:38 PM	#36
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Official confirmation of Samsung's 2011 roadmap: Samsung announces five NX camera system lenses: Digital Photography Review Samsung’s 2011 New NX Lenses are revealed! SamsungImaging – Samsung Cameras & Camcorders Blog Attached Images

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thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Samsung will need (as pan/oly) to go higher end/ higher margins.

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RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by RayGunn LMAO... You're worried about how a camera "looks" with a big lens attached? OK, just for those with this worry, here's how it "looks": The Mother of all Telephotos \| B&H Photo Video There is also a Pentax 1200mm/f8 lens, that is a lot smaller in size, but still uge.

02-20-2011, 09:41 AM	#34
juu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 680	The primes they promise are certainly a step in the right direction. But I'm not sure if the NX-es are selling well anywhere except for Korea. BCN rankings and Amazon have them way way down the list. I'd be a bit scared buying into such a system, but perhaps by the time they have these lenses available things will have changed.

02-20-2011, 10:20 AM	#35
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	And that one is nice as well: K 2000/13.5 Reflex How many sold though, probably not much if any.

02-21-2011, 03:38 PM	#37
Urkeldaedalus Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Iowa Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,369	That 16 f/2.4 pancake sounds interesting. Be interested to see the image quality from that one.

02-22-2011, 05:56 AM	#38
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Regarding the 700mm Assuming it's ~f/5.6 and not a mirror lens it's going to be huge and exceptionally expensive. I guess you could get away with f/6.3 as well and still be able to market it. Anyway. Micro mount cameras on mega-teles just mean that you design both the lens and the camera as one ergonomic entity. i.e. put shutter controls and dials on the lens itself. Literally the camera becomes just the imager and everthing is actually controlled from the lens. You can then design the lens to be what you hold and the camera is an accersory for the lens as it were. Given that the lens could weigh 5 or more times the camera it's a feasable approach.

02-22-2011, 07:08 AM	#39
dankoBanana Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 533	30mm f2, 16mm f2.4m, 20mm f2.8 seems to that pentax is lagging behind Samsung in fast pancake development

02-22-2011, 07:22 AM	#40
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by dankoBanana 30mm f2, 16mm f2.4m, 20mm f2.8 seems to that pentax is lagging behind Samsung in fast pancake development Pentax is not lagging behind. The lenses can be made faster for APS-C DSLR, but because of the smaller registration distance the optical design is easier for Samsung. Personally I'll wait to see what Pentax is up to. I was never too impressed with Samsung.

02-22-2011, 08:52 AM	#41
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Asahiflex Pentax is not lagging behind. The lenses can be made faster for APS-C DSLR, but because of the smaller registration distance the optical design is easier for Samsung. Personally I'll wait to see what Pentax is up to. I was never too impressed with Samsung. 30/2 is excellent lens, 20/2.8 is very good.

02-22-2011, 09:08 AM	#42
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,663	Seems like currently Samsung is hampered most by the fact that their sensor technology seems pretty stagnate. Feels a little like the four thirds cameras, where the cameras are nice, but their sensors are no longer cutting edge.

02-22-2011, 09:08 AM	#43
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	But none of these lenses were dine by Samsung

02-26-2011, 06:04 AM	#44
Jasvox Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 3,107	The coolest thing about clicking on that link are the photos of the cute model, end of story. Jason

02-27-2011, 07:03 PM	#45
vinzer Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,399	Well, at least Samsung isn't going into the whole mirrorless derby with mediocre effort, I'll give them that. For existing NX system users (though admittedly, I haven't seen one in my area thus far), the promise of such rapid lens development is a positive for them. I wouldn't worry so much about their old sensor, they'll eventually make better ones - I think the worrisome point in the NX system is the lack of third-party support I've seen thus far. The local prices here are pretty tempting, though. There's an NX100 bundle here that's selling for just over $500, and it includes the body, 20-50mm lens, 20mm pancake, and a small external flash. If I weren't saving up for some WR lenses, I'd be willing to try this one.