Originally posted by falconeye Thanks.
Originally posted by falconeye Personally, I prefer my tool to not hide false assumptions.
I fully see your point and I agree. On the other hand, there should be a way to exploit the AF module's sensitivity in cases where it is safe to do so.
Originally posted by falconeye The least I can ask for is an AF fail warning after the image is taken.
Yes, it wouldn't be hard to do, except perhaps for high-frequency shooting modes.
One could even imagine a self-calibrating system that adjusts the AF compensation as long as there are hints that the same scene is still being shot (time stamps, metering). Could be a mode that could be turned on and off.
Originally posted by falconeye Ok, then phase AF is the ultimate cause because it can never be as accurate as contrast AF.
Touché, but phase AF is fine in most situations and we just want it to perform in more situations.
Originally posted by falconeye I prefer the system view and there, the achromatic AF relay lens and the colorimetric sensor form a system not inferior to an apochromatic AF relay lens.
Hmmh, I prefer the full sensitivity of an AF module with an APO relay lens over an additional colorimetric sensor with a dependency on the widest aperture of a lens, potential alignment issues, different sensitivity for different colours, etc. Having the metering chip double up as a colorimetric sensor probably makes it less sensitive for its metering purpose. It appears to me that the colorimetric sensor solution used by Pentax is primarily motivated by cost reduction considerations. Nothing wrong about that as long as it works.
Originally posted by falconeye I've seen 5DmkIIs engage their AF assist light with studio modelling lights ...
I trust the owner knew what they were doing and it wasn't in an "always on" mode or something similar.
Originally posted by falconeye That's the difference between tools and toys. And you know this.
Sure. Admittedly, my expectations towards cameras/lenses in this price bracket aren't as high as they used to be. Lenses without QC issues seem to be the exception rather than the norm and cameras have issues like tilted viewfinders, mis-calibrated electronic horizons, mis-aligned AF point overlays, general FF/BF of the body, firmware bugs, etc. Maybe I'm giving all these reports too much weight but it seems one needs a bit of luck to get copies (of lenses or cameras) that live up to their "tool" specification and are not let down by "toy tolerance" issues. I'm probably being unfair here but I'm a bit annoyed that I cannot order a camera with confidence but rather would expect to find out that I'll have to send it back for one reason or the other.
Originally posted by falconeye Again, my problem is not where the K-5 cannot focus. It is where the K-5 fools you and says it can while it can't.
Would you say that the K-5's AF performance is at least as good as that of its predecessors?
If so, I'd be thinking of a K-5 purchase more favourably again. However, why were there FF-complaints from users? If they were unfounded, why did Pentax release a "fix"? Did Pentax believe there was no real problem but did some small optimisation just to be seen to react? Why are some reporting significant improvements?
The whole story still doesn't quite add up for me and at the moment I don't feel confident that I could get a K-5 that performs in reasonable conditions. I would not want to resort to my K100D for some shots, that would be silly wouldn't it? Maybe the K-5 is fine in all situations in which the K100D would lock focus but at the moment I don't have a good feel for whether or not that's the case.
P.S.: It appears you are of the opinion that the K-5 doesn't have an FF problem but rather a "false focus lock" problem. I'm fine with that view as long as the K-5 doesn't FF where a K-7 / K20D would not either. However, I'd still find it a bit sad that the apparent sensitivity of the AF module is let down by a comparatively insensitive colorimetric sensor.