Head to head shoot out Pentax 645D vs. Canon 1Ds Mark III

Mystic · 02-24-2011, 11:41 AM

Pentax 645D Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III Comparison Digital SLR Review

ajoe · 02-24-2011, 11:46 AM

Apples and oranges (as they admit in the article).

More media stupidity.

hawk1500 · 02-24-2011, 12:00 PM

lots of grammatical and spelling errors...wonder if it was proofread before posted?

Nice, thorough review though. But is it wise to compare a studio camera to a field camera? I assume that's what they were meant to be?

eddie1960 · 02-24-2011, 12:02 PM

really dumb completely different target markets for the 2, why not include the m9 in the test as well and cover all shooters
Silly
I'd rather see a shootout versus the low end mamya ZD which competes on price with half the MP and comes with an 80mm lens, but gives the option of using a film back as well or the leaf aptus II 5/phase one DF combo also in the same price category

elho_cid · 02-24-2011, 12:08 PM

Actually I know about few who bought the 1D for application where 645d would be more appropriate. So it is not that insane comparison.

ajoe · 02-24-2011, 12:09 PM - **1 Like**

I think I should do a shootout between my John Deere Tractor and Ford Pickup.

Conclusion:
They both have their strengths and weaknesses; the pickup is faster at 0-60, but the tractor can plow the field.

eddie1960 · 02-24-2011, 12:12 PM

but did they buy it before the 645d was out, or was budget also a consideration (you can after all get a lot more canon gear for the 12 grand than Pentax)
It'll be interesting to see the mark 2 version of the 645d when it inevitably comes out (probably with full frame 645 as even the new lenses are designed for full frame - I'd love to see results from the 25 on full frame, like shooting a 15MM on 35mm ultra wide like medium format never had, and compare it to the 35 which is already an amazing ultra wide)

Art Vandelay II · 02-24-2011, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

Actually I know about few who bought the 1D for application where 645d would be more appropriate. So it is not that insane comparison.

I agree. I pissed off a few people in a thread not long ago when I said I'd rather use a 35mm camera over the 645D. I didn't do it to upset or flame anyone, it is a very real choice someone has to make IMHO. The fact is these cameras are similarly priced and their target markets do have some overlap.

Will be interesting to see what happens in the future. If Pentax makes a "full frame" 645D it will surely widen the image quality gap it already has. However, as it is now that gap might not be large enough to compensate for negatives that come with a medium format camera.

elho_cid · 02-24-2011, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

but did they buy it before the 645d was out

I agree. And now they could be interested whether purchase od rugged medium format brings them a lot of improvement. Those on budget probably get 5DMk2 anyway, even if it is not sealed.

Originally posted by Art Vandelay II

Pentax makes a "full frame" 645D it will surely widen the image quality gap it already has.

I believe they will. The 645D was a success and the DFA25 covers the image circle.

eddie1960 · 02-24-2011, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

I agree. And now they could be interested whether purchase od rugged medium format brings them a lot of improvement. Those on budget probably get 5DMk2 anyway, even if it is not sealed.

I believe they will. The 645D was a success and the DFA25 covers the image circle.

there is sure a lot of talk about it and now that phase has 2 out with the full frame it's only a matter of time for the sensor to be priced well enough to flow into the 645D, I thought i read somewhere that Pentax had even said they planned for it at some point to happen (probably in relation to the release of the 25)

SMPhoto · 02-24-2011, 02:20 PM

Posted a comment reminding the reviewer that SDXC cards do indeed work with the 645D via a firmware update. Shows how much he researched things.

eddie1960 · 02-24-2011, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by SMPhoto

Posted a comment reminding the reviewer that SDXC cards do indeed work with the 645D via a firmware update. Shows how much he researched things.

to be fair he may well have began the review before the firmware update

**Ash** · 02-24-2011, 02:38 PM

You've gotta be pretty bored, or obsessed with comparison tests to want to put these two cameras together.

A-Craig · 02-24-2011, 02:56 PM

That's a nice Canon fanboy review there...

sjwaldron · 02-24-2011, 05:37 PM

He seemed a little bias in favor of the Canon, but overall the article was interesting and did bring up some valid points on how each camera body has and intended target usage. I don't understand why he likes the blown sky exposures of the Canon over the uniform feel of the Pentax. The Pentax is obviously designed to maximize the recording of useful image data. He even eventually points out that he prefers the Pentax images overall, so I guess using the Pentax changed his mind a bit.

He should update the article to point out that SDXC are at least usable now with the 645D ("Transfer rate is not compatible with UHS speed class." according to pentax.jp site)...

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02-24-2011, 11:46 AM	#2
ajoe Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PA Posts: 89	Apples and oranges (as they admit in the article). More media stupidity.

02-24-2011, 12:00 PM	#3
hawk1500 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 270	lots of grammatical and spelling errors...wonder if it was proofread before posted? Nice, thorough review though. But is it wise to compare a studio camera to a field camera? I assume that's what they were meant to be?

02-24-2011, 12:02 PM	#4
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	really dumb completely different target markets for the 2, why not include the m9 in the test as well and cover all shooters Silly I'd rather see a shootout versus the low end mamya ZD which competes on price with half the MP and comes with an 80mm lens, but gives the option of using a film back as well or the leaf aptus II 5/phase one DF combo also in the same price category

02-24-2011, 12:08 PM	#5
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Actually I know about few who bought the 1D for application where 645d would be more appropriate. So it is not that insane comparison.

02-24-2011, 12:09 PM - 1 Like	#6
ajoe Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PA Posts: 89	I think I should do a shootout between my John Deere Tractor and Ford Pickup. Conclusion: They both have their strengths and weaknesses; the pickup is faster at 0-60, but the tractor can plow the field.

02-24-2011, 12:12 PM	#7
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	but did they buy it before the 645d was out, or was budget also a consideration (you can after all get a lot more canon gear for the 12 grand than Pentax) It'll be interesting to see the mark 2 version of the 645d when it inevitably comes out (probably with full frame 645 as even the new lenses are designed for full frame - I'd love to see results from the 25 on full frame, like shooting a 15MM on 35mm ultra wide like medium format never had, and compare it to the 35 which is already an amazing ultra wide)

02-24-2011, 12:38 PM	#8
Art Vandelay II Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 886	Originally posted by elho_cid Actually I know about few who bought the 1D for application where 645d would be more appropriate. So it is not that insane comparison. I agree. I pissed off a few people in a thread not long ago when I said I'd rather use a 35mm camera over the 645D. I didn't do it to upset or flame anyone, it is a very real choice someone has to make IMHO. The fact is these cameras are similarly priced and their target markets do have some overlap. Will be interesting to see what happens in the future. If Pentax makes a "full frame" 645D it will surely widen the image quality gap it already has. However, as it is now that gap might not be large enough to compensate for negatives that come with a medium format camera.

02-24-2011, 01:41 PM	#9
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by eddie1960 but did they buy it before the 645d was out I agree. And now they could be interested whether purchase od rugged medium format brings them a lot of improvement. Those on budget probably get 5DMk2 anyway, even if it is not sealed. Originally posted by Art Vandelay II Pentax makes a "full frame" 645D it will surely widen the image quality gap it already has. I believe they will. The 645D was a success and the DFA25 covers the image circle.

02-24-2011, 01:58 PM	#10
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by elho_cid I agree. And now they could be interested whether purchase od rugged medium format brings them a lot of improvement. Those on budget probably get 5DMk2 anyway, even if it is not sealed. I believe they will. The 645D was a success and the DFA25 covers the image circle. there is sure a lot of talk about it and now that phase has 2 out with the full frame it's only a matter of time for the sensor to be priced well enough to flow into the 645D, I thought i read somewhere that Pentax had even said they planned for it at some point to happen (probably in relation to the release of the 25)

02-24-2011, 02:20 PM	#11
SMPhoto Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Photos: Gallery Posts: 185	Posted a comment reminding the reviewer that SDXC cards do indeed work with the 645D via a firmware update. Shows how much he researched things.

02-24-2011, 02:23 PM	#12
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by SMPhoto Posted a comment reminding the reviewer that SDXC cards do indeed work with the 645D via a firmware update. Shows how much he researched things. to be fair he may well have began the review before the firmware update

02-24-2011, 02:38 PM	#13
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	You've gotta be pretty bored, or obsessed with comparison tests to want to put these two cameras together.

02-24-2011, 02:56 PM	#14
A-Craig Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 90	That's a nice Canon fanboy review there...

02-24-2011, 05:37 PM	#15
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	He seemed a little bias in favor of the Canon, but overall the article was interesting and did bring up some valid points on how each camera body has and intended target usage. I don't understand why he likes the blown sky exposures of the Canon over the uniform feel of the Pentax. The Pentax is obviously designed to maximize the recording of useful image data. He even eventually points out that he prefers the Pentax images overall, so I guess using the Pentax changed his mind a bit. He should update the article to point out that SDXC are at least usable now with the 645D ("Transfer rate is not compatible with UHS speed class." according to pentax.jp site)...