Two mirrorless systems from Pentax this year

ogl · 04-27-2011, 11:09 PM

Google ??????????

Maybe it's true?

TIBO exhibition
http://www.onliner.by/tags/TIBO/

axl · 04-28-2011, 12:27 AM

Why are you so surprised?
The fact there will be 2 mirrorless cams has been known (to me at least) for past 2 months...
I'm just not too sure if they'll manage to deliver them on time (just see the delays on silver DA ltds...)

ogl · 04-28-2011, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by axl

Why are you so surprised?

The words from offical Pentax. Not rumors.

jeztastic · 04-28-2011, 02:35 AM

Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C! They are going to make it big with this one... Now if it has an optical viewfinder too I am in there...

Vylen · 04-28-2011, 02:35 AM

Exactly... prior to this, they were just rumours... based on apparent leaks and whatnot.

Now that it has been pretty much been confirmed by Pentax, people can no longer say "they're not going to do it" and instead speculate on features and what it will look like

Originally posted by jeztastic

Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C! They are going to make it big with this one... Now if it has an optical viewfinder too I am in there...

Only if they figured out a new way to do an optical viewfinder on a mirrorless system. IIRC, Canon owns the patent on a semi-transparent prism thingy that will allow such a thing. And somehow I doubt Pentax would go paying them to use it .

gazonk · 04-28-2011, 03:23 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jeztastic

Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C!

What's so exciting about K-mount for a mirrorless camera? You lose both on size and the possibility of simple pancake wide angle lenses. I'm not sure I believe that part of the story.

Supernaut · 04-28-2011, 03:33 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jeztastic

Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C! They are going to make it big with this one... Now if it has an optical viewfinder too I am in there...

You are basically talking about a version of Sonys SLT-cameras, the a55 for example. The K-x is as small as K-mount goes. Why make the K-x mirrorless without any size advantages?

This pentax rep. has been reading on the same rumor sites and forums as we have. Nothing more imo.

ogl · 04-28-2011, 03:52 AM

Important moment - mirrorless with K-mount. If it's correct info.

ogl · 04-28-2011, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

What's so exciting about K-mount for a mirrorless camera? You lose both on size and the possibility of simple pancake wide angle lenses. I'm not sure I believe that part of the story.

Do you remember *ist DS? Remove mirror and make just a bit compact body -

it's good for me, for example. DA15/4 is rather compact lens.

Asahiflex · 04-28-2011, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Important moment - mirrorless with K-mount. If it's correct info.

Good if that's true! Personally I don't see the advantage of a mirror box if there's an electronic screen which shows WYSIWYG. To me the old ground glass screen is absolutely useless to assess the bokeh and plane of focus. Using the imaging sensor both for metering and AF is a much better idea. I'm all for it; no more AF issues because of the discrepancy between the flange to sensor, ground glass screen and AF sensor distances... No more focus adjustments needed for AF lenses, and at the same time a perfect solution for manual focusing (old and new lenses). Great!

Of course, the old system does not consume any power in idle mode, but rechargables are cheap and abundant nowadays. So that's not an issue for me.

ogl · 04-28-2011, 04:09 AM

Anton Melnikov (Pentax representative) says that journalists interpret his words in wrong way. It's not official info....Sad....

Stefan Carey · 04-28-2011, 04:21 AM

I was getting quite excited there, am hanging out for an announcement, as this may well fit my need perfectly.

The black cloth fantasy continues then!

Could someone answer this very basic question please: what is 1 / 2, 33 inches?
I have never seen a fraction expressed this way before. Thanks.

Originally posted by ogl

Anton Melnikov (Pentax representative) says that journalists interpret his words in wrong way. It's not official info....Sad....

Vylen · 04-28-2011, 04:55 AM

3 / 7 inches?

thibs · 04-28-2011, 06:26 AM

Imo 'based on k mount' does not mean uses k mount.
A micro k mount with adapters for plain k mount would fit the comments as well.

rustynail925 · 04-28-2011, 07:08 AM

I really hope its a mirrorless k-mount aps-c w/ SR.. same size as the gf1 or x100

04-27-2011, 11:09 PM	#1
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Two mirrorless systems from Pentax this year Google ?????????? Maybe it's true? TIBO exhibition http://www.onliner.by/tags/TIBO/

04-28-2011, 04:00 AM	#10
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by ogl Important moment - mirrorless with K-mount. If it's correct info. Good if that's true! Personally I don't see the advantage of a mirror box if there's an electronic screen which shows WYSIWYG. To me the old ground glass screen is absolutely useless to assess the bokeh and plane of focus. Using the imaging sensor both for metering and AF is a much better idea. I'm all for it; no more AF issues because of the discrepancy between the flange to sensor, ground glass screen and AF sensor distances... No more focus adjustments needed for AF lenses, and at the same time a perfect solution for manual focusing (old and new lenses). Great! Of course, the old system does not consume any power in idle mode, but rechargables are cheap and abundant nowadays. So that's not an issue for me. Last edited by Asahiflex; 04-28-2011 at 04:06 AM.

04-28-2011, 04:21 AM	#12
Stefan Carey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Photos: Gallery Posts: 190	Back to the black cloth mystery it is then.. I was getting quite excited there, am hanging out for an announcement, as this may well fit my need perfectly. The black cloth fantasy continues then! Could someone answer this very basic question please: what is 1 / 2, 33 inches? I have never seen a fraction expressed this way before. Thanks. Originally posted by ogl Anton Melnikov (Pentax representative) says that journalists interpret his words in wrong way. It's not official info....Sad....

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04-28-2011, 12:27 AM	#2
axl Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nove Zamky, Slovakia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,183	Why are you so surprised? The fact there will be 2 mirrorless cams has been known (to me at least) for past 2 months... I'm just not too sure if they'll manage to deliver them on time (just see the delays on silver DA ltds...)

04-28-2011, 12:31 AM	#3
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by axl Why are you so surprised? The words from offical Pentax. Not rumors.

04-28-2011, 02:35 AM	#4
jeztastic Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Canterbury Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 596	Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C! They are going to make it big with this one... Now if it has an optical viewfinder too I am in there...

04-28-2011, 02:35 AM	#5
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Exactly... prior to this, they were just rumours... based on apparent leaks and whatnot. Now that it has been pretty much been confirmed by Pentax, people can no longer say "they're not going to do it" and instead speculate on features and what it will look like Originally posted by jeztastic Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C! They are going to make it big with this one... Now if it has an optical viewfinder too I am in there... Only if they figured out a new way to do an optical viewfinder on a mirrorless system. IIRC, Canon owns the patent on a semi-transparent prism thingy that will allow such a thing. And somehow I doubt Pentax would go paying them to use it .

04-28-2011, 03:23 AM - 1 Like	#6
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by jeztastic Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C! What's so exciting about K-mount for a mirrorless camera? You lose both on size and the possibility of simple pancake wide angle lenses. I'm not sure I believe that part of the story.

04-28-2011, 03:33 AM - 1 Like	#7
Supernaut Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: West Coast , Sweden Posts: 467	Originally posted by jeztastic Wow, that is so exciting, they have confirmed it will be a K-Mount APS-C! They are going to make it big with this one... Now if it has an optical viewfinder too I am in there... You are basically talking about a version of Sonys SLT-cameras, the a55 for example. The K-x is as small as K-mount goes. Why make the K-x mirrorless without any size advantages? This pentax rep. has been reading on the same rumor sites and forums as we have. Nothing more imo.

04-28-2011, 03:52 AM	#8
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Important moment - mirrorless with K-mount. If it's correct info.

04-28-2011, 03:54 AM	#9
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Originally posted by gazonk What's so exciting about K-mount for a mirrorless camera? You lose both on size and the possibility of simple pancake wide angle lenses. I'm not sure I believe that part of the story. Do you remember *ist DS? Remove mirror and make just a bit compact body - it's good for me, for example. DA15/4 is rather compact lens.

04-28-2011, 04:09 AM	#11
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382 Original Poster	Anton Melnikov (Pentax representative) says that journalists interpret his words in wrong way. It's not official info....Sad....

04-28-2011, 04:55 AM	#13
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	3 / 7 inches?

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04-28-2011, 06:26 AM	#14
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Imo 'based on k mount' does not mean uses k mount. A micro k mount with adapters for plain k mount would fit the comments as well.

04-28-2011, 07:08 AM	#15
rustynail925 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Philippines Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,551	I really hope its a mirrorless k-mount aps-c w/ SR.. same size as the gf1 or x100