A Pentax Rep in France said today ...

infoomatic · 06-19-2011, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Hmm...ok......last information was,out of production.we can not order any more the FA Limted line since 2 month.
But,we will see how out the production is.
In the last time,were the informations a little unsave.
Will see,can ask again next week.
Needs only a short phone call.
But,it looks like real out.

I am very careful about rumors in forums like this ... however, Pentax really lacks glass especially fast primes like the fa ltd. If the stop production of these lovely primes and don't announce equivalents (fa ltd wr or da* or ...) I would be really disappointed!

ewalk · 06-19-2011, 07:27 AM

I'm going to be pretty ticked if they discontinue the FA Limited line without suitable replacements (i.e. DFA lenses similar to what they did with the 100mm Macro.)

The Limited lenses are pretty much the only thing keeping me with Pentax right now.

zackspeed · 06-19-2011, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by the swede

My 31, 43 and 77 are all brand new lenses from new batch (AIV). The 31 was preordered and i recieved it from the latest batch, this means the lens was produced just a month or two back.

If production of FA Ltd was ended, it was ended very very recently, like this month!

Do you know the timewindow of Prductionrun and selling/shipping?
How long and in what for timearea the lens is in production?
Stocklevel and sellsmove?
Nearby,the complete Olympus Lensline for 4/3 is out of production but you can order all lenses.
They only starting some production when the orderlevel is high enough.
Same with the E-5.No continue production of this Body.
approx.10,000 bodys are produced
But you can order one.
Not easy for the most shops to get one,but we can order.
My last question about FA Limited Order is weeks ago and the answer was,NO.
Maybe in Hamburg or France a little on stock,maybe not.
We will see if it is a complete stop or only for this and next time.
But today,no FA Limited is the production run.
Will ask next week if it is still the same condition.
Best regards

Class A · 06-19-2011, 08:03 PM

Andy, thanks for sharing this information.

Originally posted by zackspeed

We will see if it is a complete stop or only for this and next time.

Can you not ask whether the stop is final or not?
Maybe Pentax does not know either?

If previous "out of production" rumours/messages were based on the fact that the lenses are temporarily not produced then that explains a lot. IMHO it is very misleading to tell people that a product is "out of production" with a "discontinued" connotation when there is only a temporary stop in production for whatever reason.

I'm with others: The FA Ltds are the main reason to stick with Pentax. If they discontinue them then there will be a lot less incentive to stay loyal.

Yes, Pentax makes great bodies but the Nikon D7000 is not to bad of a K-5 clone. And it doesn't have sensor stains, low-light AF issues, residual shutter blur, flash overexposure issues, and shutter that sometimes get stuck and requires one to slap the camera hard to get it unstuck again. I guess it comes with its own issues that I know little about (hot pixels?), but if Pentax discontinued the FA Ltds, they made a mistake, AFAIC.

Even if the discontinuation means they will be replaced with modernised versions that cost a lot more, it will be a mistake. If I want great bodies with super expensive lenses, I'll go Sony + Zeiss glass.

ogl · 06-19-2011, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by dankoBanana

at what price if I may ask?

Please...Have a look. Approx. 75 000 YEN

ogl · 06-19-2011, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Do you know the timewindow of Prductionrun and selling/shipping?

My last question about FA Limited Order is weeks ago and the answer was,NO.
Maybe in Hamburg or France a little on stock,maybe not.
We will see if it is a complete stop or only for this and next time.
But today,no FA Limited is the production run.
Will ask next week if it is still the same condition.
Best regards

Old song...My friend just got FA77 from BHPhoto in the same box (another code of lens, of course)...With the same text - ASSEMBLED IN VIETNAM HOYA CORPORATION

bobmaxja · 06-20-2011, 06:04 AM

Simply go to the Pentax Japan page and they show all lens who are still available

Interchangeable Lenses : Digital Cameras : Products : PENTAX

**rparmar** · 06-20-2011, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Class A

I'm with others: The FA Ltds are the main reason to stick with Pentax. If they discontinue them then there will be a lot less incentive to stay loyal.

I don't understand. Once you have bought the FA Limiteds does it matter to your shooting if they are made any more? The ones you own do not spontaneously combust.

Winder · 06-20-2011, 09:26 AM

Hopefully it means that Pentax has been working on updating some of these lenses with improved SDM, newer coatings, and faster apertures. There have been a lot of improvements in glass and coatings since those lenses were first put into production.

They have had a production life long enough that there are plenty of used copies to be found for people who really want them.

the swede · 06-20-2011, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by zackspeed

Do you know the timewindow of Prductionrun and selling/shipping?
How long and in what for timearea the lens is in production?
Stocklevel and sellsmove?

Do you?

I had my lenses preordered, 31 and 77. They were out of stock and was expected to be delivered by Pentax USA, who also was on backorder. When stock dates are "unknown", and this i know, the suppliers are waiting for new stock, wich means lenses are either being produced, or shipped out from factory stock

This was back when i ordered mine, how the status is today... well... i dont know because im not looking out for them anymore

.
When i did, i was calling and e-mail'ing all sorts of people just to get an answer about when i could expect to have my lenses. All answers then were "stock is on its way".

If someone told you "No", well Zack.... thats your words

deejjjaaaa · 06-20-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by dankoBanana

at what price if I may ask?

matsuiyastore used to sell 'em for ~ USD $600.

uccemebug · 06-20-2011, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by UdonUdon

K-l would be a giant hassle for the Japanese community (sorry generalization)

Not a generalization at all .. there's no 'l' in the Japanese syllabary. Of course, there's no 'x' either and we've already seen K-x.

Didn't we already hear that the small MILC's going to be labelled "Q"?

zackspeed · 06-20-2011, 03:49 PM

We will see what Pentax is answer me,the info with out of production is a couple of weeks old.

Class A · 06-20-2011, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by rparmar

The ones you own do not spontaneously combust.

I don't own any yet.

Originally posted by Winder

They have had a production life long enough that there are plenty of used copies to be found for people who really want them.

Unfortunately I cannot confirm that. I keep looking on ebay in several countries and so far could not find a silver FA 77mm. People seem to keep it.

zackspeed · 06-20-2011, 04:03 PM

What a unfriendly sound here.
I only told you what Pentax is told us than we ask for order the FA Limiteds.
And now i am a liar?
Sorry,thats not my way to have a nice forumstalk.
Here are a lot of user,with no contact to Pentax and inside trade...and are knowing all the best.
Wish you nice fun here.
Bye,bye

06-19-2011, 08:08 AM	#48
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	Originally posted by the swede My 31, 43 and 77 are all brand new lenses from new batch (AIV). The 31 was preordered and i recieved it from the latest batch, this means the lens was produced just a month or two back. If production of FA Ltd was ended, it was ended very very recently, like this month! Do you know the timewindow of Prductionrun and selling/shipping? How long and in what for timearea the lens is in production? Stocklevel and sellsmove? Nearby,the complete Olympus Lensline for 4/3 is out of production but you can order all lenses. They only starting some production when the orderlevel is high enough. Same with the E-5.No continue production of this Body. approx.10,000 bodys are produced But you can order one. Not easy for the most shops to get one,but we can order. My last question about FA Limited Order is weeks ago and the answer was,NO. Maybe in Hamburg or France a little on stock,maybe not. We will see if it is a complete stop or only for this and next time. But today,no FA Limited is the production run. Will ask next week if it is still the same condition. Best regards Last edited by zackspeed; 06-19-2011 at 08:31 AM.

06-19-2011, 08:54 PM	#50
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by dankoBanana at what price if I may ask? Please...Have a look. Approx. 75 000 YEN Attached Images Last edited by ogl; 06-19-2011 at 09:42 PM.

06-20-2011, 01:40 PM	#55
the swede Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,310	Originally posted by zackspeed Do you know the timewindow of Prductionrun and selling/shipping? How long and in what for timearea the lens is in production? Stocklevel and sellsmove? Do you? I had my lenses preordered, 31 and 77. They were out of stock and was expected to be delivered by Pentax USA, who also was on backorder. When stock dates are "unknown", and this i know, the suppliers are waiting for new stock, wich means lenses are either being produced, or shipped out from factory stock This was back when i ordered mine, how the status is today... well... i dont know because im not looking out for them anymore . When i did, i was calling and e-mail'ing all sorts of people just to get an answer about when i could expect to have my lenses. All answers then were "stock is on its way". If someone told you "No", well Zack.... thats your words Last edited by the swede; 06-20-2011 at 01:51 PM.

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06-19-2011, 05:18 AM	#46
infoomatic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austria Photos: Gallery Posts: 255	Originally posted by zackspeed Hmm...ok......last information was,out of production.we can not order any more the FA Limted line since 2 month. But,we will see how out the production is. In the last time,were the informations a little unsave. Will see,can ask again next week. Needs only a short phone call. But,it looks like real out. I am very careful about rumors in forums like this ... however, Pentax really lacks glass especially fast primes like the fa ltd. If the stop production of these lovely primes and don't announce equivalents (fa ltd wr or da* or ...) I would be really disappointed!

06-19-2011, 07:27 AM	#47
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	I'm going to be pretty ticked if they discontinue the FA Limited line without suitable replacements (i.e. DFA lenses similar to what they did with the 100mm Macro.) The Limited lenses are pretty much the only thing keeping me with Pentax right now.

06-19-2011, 08:03 PM	#49
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Andy, thanks for sharing this information. Originally posted by zackspeed We will see if it is a complete stop or only for this and next time. Can you not ask whether the stop is final or not? Maybe Pentax does not know either? If previous "out of production" rumours/messages were based on the fact that the lenses are temporarily not produced then that explains a lot. IMHO it is very misleading to tell people that a product is "out of production" with a "discontinued" connotation when there is only a temporary stop in production for whatever reason. I'm with others: The FA Ltds are the main reason to stick with Pentax. If they discontinue them then there will be a lot less incentive to stay loyal. Yes, Pentax makes great bodies but the Nikon D7000 is not to bad of a K-5 clone. And it doesn't have sensor stains, low-light AF issues, residual shutter blur, flash overexposure issues, and shutter that sometimes get stuck and requires one to slap the camera hard to get it unstuck again. I guess it comes with its own issues that I know little about (hot pixels?), but if Pentax discontinued the FA Ltds, they made a mistake, AFAIC. Even if the discontinuation means they will be replaced with modernised versions that cost a lot more, it will be a mistake. If I want great bodies with super expensive lenses, I'll go Sony + Zeiss glass.

06-19-2011, 09:44 PM	#51
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by zackspeed Do you know the timewindow of Prductionrun and selling/shipping? My last question about FA Limited Order is weeks ago and the answer was,NO. Maybe in Hamburg or France a little on stock,maybe not. We will see if it is a complete stop or only for this and next time. But today,no FA Limited is the production run. Will ask next week if it is still the same condition. Best regards Old song...My friend just got FA77 from BHPhoto in the same box (another code of lens, of course)...With the same text - ASSEMBLED IN VIETNAM HOYA CORPORATION

06-20-2011, 06:04 AM	#52
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Simply go to the Pentax Japan page and they show all lens who are still available Interchangeable Lenses : Digital Cameras : Products : PENTAX

06-20-2011, 08:39 AM	#53
rparmar Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,819	Originally posted by Class A I'm with others: The FA Ltds are the main reason to stick with Pentax. If they discontinue them then there will be a lot less incentive to stay loyal. I don't understand. Once you have bought the FA Limiteds does it matter to your shooting if they are made any more? The ones you own do not spontaneously combust.

06-20-2011, 09:26 AM	#54
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Hopefully it means that Pentax has been working on updating some of these lenses with improved SDM, newer coatings, and faster apertures. There have been a lot of improvements in glass and coatings since those lenses were first put into production. They have had a production life long enough that there are plenty of used copies to be found for people who really want them.

06-20-2011, 02:46 PM	#56
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by dankoBanana at what price if I may ask? matsuiyastore used to sell 'em for ~ USD $600.

06-20-2011, 02:53 PM	#57
uccemebug Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Tokyo Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 962	Originally posted by UdonUdon K-l would be a giant hassle for the Japanese community (sorry generalization) Not a generalization at all .. there's no 'l' in the Japanese syllabary. Of course, there's no 'x' either and we've already seen K-x. Didn't we already hear that the small MILC's going to be labelled "Q"?

06-20-2011, 03:49 PM	#58
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	We will see what Pentax is answer me,the info with out of production is a couple of weeks old.

06-20-2011, 03:56 PM	#59
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by rparmar The ones you own do not spontaneously combust. I don't own any yet. Originally posted by Winder They have had a production life long enough that there are plenty of used copies to be found for people who really want them. Unfortunately I cannot confirm that. I keep looking on ebay in several countries and so far could not find a silver FA 77mm. People seem to keep it.

06-20-2011, 04:03 PM	#60
zackspeed Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 527	What a unfriendly sound here. I only told you what Pentax is told us than we ask for order the FA Limiteds. And now i am a liar? Sorry,thats not my way to have a nice forumstalk. Here are a lot of user,with no contact to Pentax and inside trade...and are knowing all the best. Wish you nice fun here. Bye,bye