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koper · 06-22-2011, 10:52 PM

Pentax announces four additional Q mount lenses: Digital Photography Review

theperception2008 · 06-23-2011, 12:34 AM

Looking at the prices of the lenses, this system looks cool. I would not get it for myself, but this would be great for my fiancee. It's small and light and has more options than a high end compact. Knowing how Pentax has been able to maximize sensor capabilities, it may turn out that the 1/2.3 sensor won't be bad at all.

jogiba · 06-23-2011, 06:04 AM

Go look at the 22.5mm to 810mm equiv. lens on the Nikon P500 36x Superzoom that has the same size sensor then look at the Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Zoom Lens (11x 27-300mm 35mm equivalent zoom ) for NEX Cameras then you will see why this makes sense.

aurele · 06-23-2011, 06:21 AM

NEX body is a good idea, but the lense ruin everything ....

Unsinkable II · 06-23-2011, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Go look at the 22.5mm to 810mm equiv. lens on the Nikon P500 36x Superzoom that has the same size sensor then look at the Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Zoom Lens (11x 27-300mm 35mm equivalent zoom ) for NEX Cameras then you will see why this makes sense.

Makes sense at $300. Makes ZERO sense at $800.

jogiba · 06-23-2011, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by Unsinkable II

Makes sense at $300. Makes ZERO sense at $800.

Show me a link to a $300 camera with small interchangeable lenses and scratch resistant magnesium alloy body with SR and 1080p30 H.264.

juu · 06-23-2011, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Show me a link to a $300 camera with small interchangeable lenses and scratch resistant magnesium alloy body with SR and 1080p30 H.264.

Well, if Pentax had priced it at $7000 and someone would claim that it's worth only $4000 would you write "show me a $4000 camera with small interchangeable lenses etc." and thus prove it is worth $7000?

That's not how pricing works.

jogiba · 06-23-2011, 08:13 AM

Do you want Pentax to make money or do you think they should sell it at a loss ? I am sure the street price will be lower than $800.

joe.penn · 06-23-2011, 08:14 AM

I'm all in on this thing - gotta get the FE lens...

...

juu · 06-23-2011, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by jogiba

Do you want Pentax to make money or do you think they should sell it at a loss ? I am sure the street price will be lower than $800.

I personally would like them to scrap it immediately and to either join m43/NEX and make weather-sealed cameras for that, or at least to release their own large-sensor mirrorless system. And I suspect that would be a good business decision.

jogiba · 06-23-2011, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by juu

I personally would like them to scrap it immediately and to either join m43/NEX and make weather-sealed cameras for that, or at least to release their own large-sensor mirrorless system. And I suspect that would be a good business decision.

You really want Pentax to die. Think before you post such stuff.

Parallax · 06-23-2011, 09:26 AM

Quote:

PENTAX 04 Toy Lens Wide and PENTAX 05 Toy Lens Telephoto
With optics designed specifically to retain various lens aberrations, these lenses produce subdued, nostalgic images like photos taken with a traditional toy camera. .........

This is one of the most incredible pieces of marketing I've seen in a while.

Translation:
The lenses have lousy IQ. The poor IQ is being marketed as a feature, rather than a shortcoming.

jogiba · 06-23-2011, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

This is one of the most incredible pieces of marketing I've seen in a while.

Translation:
The lenses have lousy IQ. The poor IQ is being marketed as a feature, rather than a shortcoming.

Just like the SMC Pentax-6x7 120mm F4 Soft.

**Aristophanes** · 06-23-2011, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

This is one of the most incredible pieces of marketing I've seen in a while.

Translation:
The lenses have lousy IQ. The poor IQ is being marketed as a feature, rather than a shortcoming.

Why?

Anyone can take a technically excellent photo with AF and today's precision sensors.

A creative photo is another story.

What may be excellent technical IQ to one is simply not creative to others who want it all messed up....like their hair.

Or are you a Justine Bieber fan?

stanleyk · 06-23-2011, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Aristophanes

Why?

Anyone can take a technically excellent photo with AF and today's precision sensors.

A creative photo is another story.

This is exactly correct.

And I might add Pentax makes two very good cameras for the I need everything automatic crowd. Just don't buy this one if you don't want it. Or you can buy a Canon or Nikon. I wanted an X100 and didn't whine about Pentax not making one. I just bought the Fuji. Ditto on M4/2, I got an Olympus.

I really like the toy lens idea so I'm probably going to be very tempted by this.

06-22-2011, 10:52 PM	#1
koper Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: israel Photos: Gallery Posts: 180	Pentax announces four additional Q mount lenses Pentax announces four additional Q mount lenses: Digital Photography Review

06-23-2011, 06:04 AM	#3
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	small sensor long zoom lenses Go look at the 22.5mm to 810mm equiv. lens on the Nikon P500 36x Superzoom that has the same size sensor then look at the Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Zoom Lens (11x 27-300mm 35mm equivalent zoom ) for NEX Cameras then you will see why this makes sense.

06-23-2011, 07:59 AM	#6
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Unsinkable II Makes sense at $300. Makes ZERO sense at $800. Show me a link to a $300 camera with small interchangeable lenses and scratch resistant magnesium alloy body with SR and 1080p30 H.264. Last edited by jogiba; 06-23-2011 at 12:53 PM.

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06-23-2011, 12:34 AM	#2
theperception2008 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Łódź, Poland and Riverside, California, U.S.A Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 488	Looking at the prices of the lenses, this system looks cool. I would not get it for myself, but this would be great for my fiancee. It's small and light and has more options than a high end compact. Knowing how Pentax has been able to maximize sensor capabilities, it may turn out that the 1/2.3 sensor won't be bad at all.

06-23-2011, 06:21 AM	#4
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	NEX body is a good idea, but the lense ruin everything ....

06-23-2011, 07:30 AM	#5
Unsinkable II Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,352	Originally posted by jogiba Go look at the 22.5mm to 810mm equiv. lens on the Nikon P500 36x Superzoom that has the same size sensor then look at the Sony DT 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Zoom Lens (11x 27-300mm 35mm equivalent zoom ) for NEX Cameras then you will see why this makes sense. Makes sense at $300. Makes ZERO sense at $800.

06-23-2011, 08:09 AM	#7
juu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 680	Originally posted by jogiba Show me a link to a $300 camera with small interchangeable lenses and scratch resistant magnesium alloy body with SR and 1080p30 H.264. Well, if Pentax had priced it at $7000 and someone would claim that it's worth only $4000 would you write "show me a $4000 camera with small interchangeable lenses etc." and thus prove it is worth $7000? That's not how pricing works.

06-23-2011, 08:13 AM	#8
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Do you want Pentax to make money or do you think they should sell it at a loss ? I am sure the street price will be lower than $800.

06-23-2011, 08:14 AM	#9
joe.penn Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland (Right Outside Washington DC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,902	I'm all in on this thing - gotta get the FE lens... ...

06-23-2011, 08:21 AM	#10
juu Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 680	Originally posted by jogiba Do you want Pentax to make money or do you think they should sell it at a loss ? I am sure the street price will be lower than $800. I personally would like them to scrap it immediately and to either join m43/NEX and make weather-sealed cameras for that, or at least to release their own large-sensor mirrorless system. And I suspect that would be a good business decision.

06-23-2011, 08:56 AM	#11
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by juu I personally would like them to scrap it immediately and to either join m43/NEX and make weather-sealed cameras for that, or at least to release their own large-sensor mirrorless system. And I suspect that would be a good business decision. You really want Pentax to die. Think before you post such stuff.

06-23-2011, 09:26 AM	#12
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Quote: PENTAX 04 Toy Lens Wide and PENTAX 05 Toy Lens Telephoto With optics designed specifically to retain various lens aberrations, these lenses produce subdued, nostalgic images like photos taken with a traditional toy camera. ......... This is one of the most incredible pieces of marketing I've seen in a while. Translation: The lenses have lousy IQ. The poor IQ is being marketed as a feature, rather than a shortcoming.

06-23-2011, 10:36 AM	#13
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Parallax This is one of the most incredible pieces of marketing I've seen in a while. Translation: The lenses have lousy IQ. The poor IQ is being marketed as a feature, rather than a shortcoming. Just like the SMC Pentax-6x7 120mm F4 Soft.

06-23-2011, 10:45 AM	#14
Aristophanes Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rankin Inlet, Nunavut Photos: Albums Posts: 3,948	Originally posted by Parallax This is one of the most incredible pieces of marketing I've seen in a while. Translation: The lenses have lousy IQ. The poor IQ is being marketed as a feature, rather than a shortcoming. Why? Anyone can take a technically excellent photo with AF and today's precision sensors. A creative photo is another story. What may be excellent technical IQ to one is simply not creative to others who want it all messed up....like their hair. Or are you a Justine Bieber fan?

06-23-2011, 11:08 AM	#15
stanleyk Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Taylor, Texas Posts: 1,018	Originally posted by Aristophanes Why? Anyone can take a technically excellent photo with AF and today's precision sensors. A creative photo is another story. This is exactly correct. And I might add Pentax makes two very good cameras for the I need everything automatic crowd. Just don't buy this one if you don't want it. Or you can buy a Canon or Nikon. I wanted an X100 and didn't whine about Pentax not making one. I just bought the Fuji. Ditto on M4/2, I got an Olympus. I really like the toy lens idea so I'm probably going to be very tempted by this.