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mediaslinky · 07-01-2011, 06:07 AM - **2 Likes**

I'm going to start a petition to bring back the Ricoh pin. I know it's gotten some bad press for getting stuck on our camera bodes, but really, who wouldn't want that little piece of metal? It's just added value!

Bring back the pin!

Haha.

Ishpuini · 07-01-2011, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Angevinn

Speaking from personal experience. My dad worked until he was almost 80. His friends that retired at 55-60 to play golf and lay about all day soon started wearing their underwear on the outside of their pants. Most of those guys died before the age of 70. My dad is still around. Some men enjoy work; keep your body and mind active and you'll be OK in your old age.

Good for your dad! But there's alternatives... Anyway, my point is declared moot by Ashahiflex's response. Jun Hirakawa being probably in his 50s means he could come back, if he's still at all interested that is...

Wim

Paul Ewins · 07-01-2011, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by Erik

Ricoh - Camerapedia

Are we seriously even arguing this?

I'd call that a long history, not a rich one. There aren't any stand-out products or milestones of the camera industry. They have been followers, not innovators, although the GXR is the exception to that. Anyway the company history is, well, history. Maybe their current management is willing to be different to the herd in which case they might be a good fit for Pentax.

wll · 07-01-2011, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by masloff

Front Focus?

LMAO, LMAO

wll

Ishpuini · 07-01-2011, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by kuau

Hmm, I wonder what will be with the 645d, my prediction s they kill it, though I hope I'm wrong
I/just sold off my 645d to pursue tech view camera sinar artec, vit still lved my 645d

Steven

The only thing they mention explicitely about medium format is the following statement under "Other benefits" in the Strategic Objectives part of the Ricoh Press Release:

Quote:

Possible entry into the image archiving business using medium format digital cameras

Note the "possible". At least that means they do not intend to kill it off without considering how it could be useful.

Wim

krebsy75 · 07-01-2011, 06:17 AM

Ricoh press release: http://www.ricoh.com/release/2011/pdf/0701.pdf

It appears as though the will operate Pentax as a subsidiary. So far, all looks good.

Asahiflex · 07-01-2011, 06:18 AM

Originally posted by Ishpuini

Good for your dad! But there's alternatives... Anyway, my point is declared moot by Ashahiflex's response. Jun Hirakawa being probably in his 50s means he could come back, if he's still at all interested that is...

Wim

Who knows...

Anyway: here's Jun (the guy at the right), at the PIE in 2007:

**LaurenOE** · 07-01-2011, 06:19 AM

I suppose the big gorilla in the room is what is Ricoh's relation to Sony?

deejjjaaaa · 07-01-2011, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by elkarrde

And full-frame 135-sized sensor simply can't deliver IQ good enough quality for increased camera-size penalty it brings.

M9 is small, FF != mirror

asw66 · 07-01-2011, 06:22 AM

The fact that Ricoh and Hoya say that they'll cooperate to increase the value of the Pentax brand makes me think that this is a precursor to a full merger. A combined Ricoh-Hoya would be a formidable presence in several markets.

WhatAboutPhotos · 07-01-2011, 06:29 AM

Not to sure how I feel about this.

Frogfish · 07-01-2011, 06:35 AM

This sounds very positive (from the Ricoh statement on the acquisition) :

Ricoh intends to maximize the synergy from the merger between Ricoh’s digital camera business and PENTAX Imaging System Business in various ways.
1) Strengthening the digital camera business
* Enhanced interchangeable-lens cameras to meet expected future growth
* Expansion of product lineup and interchangeable lens portfolio

krebsy75 · 07-01-2011, 06:38 AM

Make no mistake about it, there is risk investing in the Pentax system for your photographic needs. Hopefully for my fellow enthusiasts and I, the risk will pay off.

1.5% market share is frightening. I didn't realize it was THAT low.

Ameiji · 07-01-2011, 06:44 AM

Change of the head department sure gonna bring a havoc for the first time. :ugh: But at least it's good to hear anything about lens lineup.

Emacs · 07-01-2011, 06:52 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by krebsy97

1.5% market share is frightening. I didn't realize it was THAT low.

It's among all photo devices, including P&S. It's significantly higher for ILS though.

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07-01-2011, 06:07 AM - 2 Likes	#136
mediaslinky Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 373	I'm going to start a petition to bring back the Ricoh pin. I know it's gotten some bad press for getting stuck on our camera bodes, but really, who wouldn't want that little piece of metal? It's just added value! Bring back the pin! Haha.

07-01-2011, 06:09 AM	#137
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by Angevinn Speaking from personal experience. My dad worked until he was almost 80. His friends that retired at 55-60 to play golf and lay about all day soon started wearing their underwear on the outside of their pants. Most of those guys died before the age of 70. My dad is still around. Some men enjoy work; keep your body and mind active and you'll be OK in your old age. Good for your dad! But there's alternatives... Anyway, my point is declared moot by Ashahiflex's response. Jun Hirakawa being probably in his 50s means he could come back, if he's still at all interested that is... Wim

07-01-2011, 06:10 AM	#138
Paul Ewins Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Melbourne, Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 274	Originally posted by Erik Ricoh - Camerapedia Are we seriously even arguing this? I'd call that a long history, not a rich one. There aren't any stand-out products or milestones of the camera industry. They have been followers, not innovators, although the GXR is the exception to that. Anyway the company history is, well, history. Maybe their current management is willing to be different to the herd in which case they might be a good fit for Pentax.

07-01-2011, 06:10 AM	#139
wll Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mission Hills, CA Posts: 773	Originally posted by masloff Front Focus? LMAO, LMAO wll

07-01-2011, 06:12 AM	#140
Ishpuini Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Antwerp, Belgium Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,727	Originally posted by kuau Hmm, I wonder what will be with the 645d, my prediction s they kill it, though I hope I'm wrong I/just sold off my 645d to pursue tech view camera sinar artec, vit still lved my 645d Steven The only thing they mention explicitely about medium format is the following statement under "Other benefits" in the Strategic Objectives part of the Ricoh Press Release: Quote: Possible entry into the image archiving business using medium format digital cameras Note the "possible". At least that means they do not intend to kill it off without considering how it could be useful. Wim

07-01-2011, 06:17 AM	#141
krebsy75 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chester County, Pa. Posts: 804	Ricoh press release: http://www.ricoh.com/release/2011/pdf/0701.pdf It appears as though the will operate Pentax as a subsidiary. So far, all looks good.

07-01-2011, 06:18 AM	#142
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by Ishpuini Good for your dad! But there's alternatives... Anyway, my point is declared moot by Ashahiflex's response. Jun Hirakawa being probably in his 50s means he could come back, if he's still at all interested that is... Wim Who knows... Anyway: here's Jun (the guy at the right), at the PIE in 2007:

07-01-2011, 06:19 AM	#143
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	I suppose the big gorilla in the room is what is Ricoh's relation to Sony?

07-01-2011, 06:19 AM	#144
deejjjaaaa Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: steel city / rust belt Posts: 2,043	Originally posted by elkarrde And full-frame 135-sized sensor simply can't deliver IQ good enough quality for increased camera-size penalty it brings. M9 is small, FF != mirror

07-01-2011, 06:22 AM	#145
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	The fact that Ricoh and Hoya say that they'll cooperate to increase the value of the Pentax brand makes me think that this is a precursor to a full merger. A combined Ricoh-Hoya would be a formidable presence in several markets.

07-01-2011, 06:29 AM	#146
WhatAboutPhotos New Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 3	Not to sure how I feel about this.

07-01-2011, 06:35 AM	#147
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	This sounds very positive (from the Ricoh statement on the acquisition) : Ricoh intends to maximize the synergy from the merger between Ricoh’s digital camera business and PENTAX Imaging System Business in various ways. 1) Strengthening the digital camera business * Enhanced interchangeable-lens cameras to meet expected future growth * Expansion of product lineup and interchangeable lens portfolio

07-01-2011, 06:38 AM	#148
krebsy75 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Chester County, Pa. Posts: 804	Make no mistake about it, there is risk investing in the Pentax system for your photographic needs. Hopefully for my fellow enthusiasts and I, the risk will pay off. 1.5% market share is frightening. I didn't realize it was THAT low.

07-01-2011, 06:44 AM	#149
Ameiji Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North Caucasus Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 205	Change of the head department sure gonna bring a havoc for the first time. :ugh: But at least it's good to hear anything about lens lineup.

07-01-2011, 06:52 AM - 1 Like	#150
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by krebsy97 1.5% market share is frightening. I didn't realize it was THAT low. It's among all photo devices, including P&S. It's significantly higher for ILS though.

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