Pentax version of the Sony a77 coming ?

philbaum · 11-09-2011, 08:07 AM

I've been choosing some pics for 20x30" prints, and finding out that higher iso at least from 10K to 20K and perhaps lower, really degrade what you can expect to produce at larger sizes. Of course, its the use of NR that causes the degradation. Just saying that the less NR used for lower iso's, the better able an APS sensor will be to compete with FF sensors for larger prints, IMO.

From what i've read, Canon sensors have not been the industry ISO leaders ever since Nikon produced the D2 and D3 series. Also, Canon has not put AF in camera adjustments in the 50D or 60D.

Interesting comment below about Sony and Samsung cams using full time LV, essentially. Design decisions have sometimes unintended consequences.

thibs · 11-09-2011, 10:38 AM

Comparing directly (picture based comparison at low iso) two sensors from two camera using different lenses and all that done by DPR is very funny but also very misleading (both ways). The Pentax may have a softer lens. Or the Samsung lens is excellent.

tigerzen · 11-09-2011, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by Caat

I doubt that we shall ever see an SLT from Pentax.

We might see a camera with the same sensor at some point though. As always with Sony sensors it depends how far down Sony's customer list Pentax finds itself - Doesn't it normally go Sony - Nikon - Pentax in terms of access to new APS-Cs?

With Nikon starting to build its own sensors I doubt Pentax is on the bottom of the list. Sony will sell their sensor to who ever that why the k5 came out at the same time as the d7000...

Sony sells sensor it is bad business to discriminate on who it will sell it to.

elho_cid · 11-09-2011, 01:58 PM

What sensor is made by Nikon? I'm not aware of any. They get supplied from Sony, Aptina and others.

MrPetkus · 11-09-2011, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

What sensor is made by Nikon? I'm not aware of any. They get supplied from Sony, Aptina and others.

This is indeed correct.

RonHendriks1966 · 11-09-2011, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

What sensor is made by Nikon? I'm not aware of any. They get supplied from Sony, Aptina and others.

Just seen it today that the V1 sensor is made by Aptina. Maybe they can make a nice sensor for Pentax.

glanglois · 11-09-2011, 04:21 PM

Nikon sensor = any sensor found in a Nikon camera with specs that they are not ashamed of.

Although I am not certain, their claim to developing/producing sensors reminds me of some autobiographies that should be, but are not, presented as ".... as told to [name of actual author here]".

elho_cid · 11-09-2011, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by glanglois

Nikon sensor = any sensor found in a Nikon camera with specs that they are not ashamed of.

Are you sure? I remember Nikon boasting about production of the D2h image sensor. That was particulary one to be ashamed of.

glanglois · 11-10-2011, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

Are you sure? I remember Nikon boasting about production of the D2h image sensor. That was particulary one to be ashamed of.

Ah, that was before my time this time 'round. If that makes sense. I was surprised to see the WiFi interface. Ahead of its time?

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11-09-2011, 08:07 AM	#331
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	I've been choosing some pics for 20x30" prints, and finding out that higher iso at least from 10K to 20K and perhaps lower, really degrade what you can expect to produce at larger sizes. Of course, its the use of NR that causes the degradation. Just saying that the less NR used for lower iso's, the better able an APS sensor will be to compete with FF sensors for larger prints, IMO. From what i've read, Canon sensors have not been the industry ISO leaders ever since Nikon produced the D2 and D3 series. Also, Canon has not put AF in camera adjustments in the 50D or 60D. Interesting comment below about Sony and Samsung cams using full time LV, essentially. Design decisions have sometimes unintended consequences.

11-09-2011, 10:38 AM	#332
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Comparing directly (picture based comparison at low iso) two sensors from two camera using different lenses and all that done by DPR is very funny but also very misleading (both ways). The Pentax may have a softer lens. Or the Samsung lens is excellent.

11-09-2011, 11:56 AM	#333
tigerzen Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 84	Originally posted by Caat I doubt that we shall ever see an SLT from Pentax. We might see a camera with the same sensor at some point though. As always with Sony sensors it depends how far down Sony's customer list Pentax finds itself - Doesn't it normally go Sony - Nikon - Pentax in terms of access to new APS-Cs? With Nikon starting to build its own sensors I doubt Pentax is on the bottom of the list. Sony will sell their sensor to who ever that why the k5 came out at the same time as the d7000... Sony sells sensor it is bad business to discriminate on who it will sell it to.

11-09-2011, 01:58 PM	#334
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	What sensor is made by Nikon? I'm not aware of any. They get supplied from Sony, Aptina and others.

11-09-2011, 02:13 PM	#335
MrPetkus Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 387	Originally posted by elho_cid What sensor is made by Nikon? I'm not aware of any. They get supplied from Sony, Aptina and others. This is indeed correct.

11-09-2011, 02:13 PM	#336
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by elho_cid What sensor is made by Nikon? I'm not aware of any. They get supplied from Sony, Aptina and others. Just seen it today that the V1 sensor is made by Aptina. Maybe they can make a nice sensor for Pentax.

11-09-2011, 04:21 PM	#337
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Nikon sensor = any sensor found in a Nikon camera with specs that they are not ashamed of. Although I am not certain, their claim to developing/producing sensors reminds me of some autobiographies that should be, but are not, presented as ".... as told to [name of actual author here]".

11-09-2011, 04:58 PM	#338
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by glanglois Nikon sensor = any sensor found in a Nikon camera with specs that they are not ashamed of. Are you sure? I remember Nikon boasting about production of the D2h image sensor. That was particulary one to be ashamed of.

11-10-2011, 04:52 PM	#339
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by elho_cid Are you sure? I remember Nikon boasting about production of the D2h image sensor. That was particulary one to be ashamed of. Ah, that was before my time this time 'round. If that makes sense. I was surprised to see the WiFi interface. Ahead of its time?