Pentax version of the Sony a77 coming ?

jogiba · 08-24-2011, 06:27 AM

Since the K-5 uses a Sony sensor like in the a55 it seems like the K-5 upgrade will have the new 24mp Sony sensor.
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causey · 08-24-2011, 07:18 AM

Hmmm... I like the 16-50mm 2.8. Technology is bound to improve, sensors are bound to get better and better, and K-6 (or whatever) is bound to have this new sensor--but a nice looking, and most likely well performing Super Sonic wave Motor 16-50mm 2.8 for a starting cost of $700 impresses me a lot.

Caat · 08-24-2011, 07:24 AM

I doubt that we shall ever see an SLT from Pentax.

We might see a camera with the same sensor at some point though. As always with Sony sensors it depends how far down Sony's customer list Pentax finds itself - Doesn't it normally go Sony - Nikon - Pentax in terms of access to new APS-Cs?

RonHendriks1966 · 08-24-2011, 07:38 AM

Well sign me up for this K-3 with 24 megapixel sensor.

Mr. B · 08-24-2011, 07:46 AM

What kind of glass do you need to feed a 24 mpix sensor? Expensive...
16mpix in the K-5 is more than enough. If you need more, get a 645D or any other medium format camera. This is just silly...

gazonk · 08-24-2011, 07:51 AM

The A77 makes me go "meh". I guess I have to try the electronic viewfinder first to really make up my mind. But I mean... both the A65 and the A77 are larger than the K-5, and the A77 is even almost exactly the same weight.

**ManuH** · 08-24-2011, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

The A77 makes me go "meh".

Same for me. The NEX-7 is much more interesting from my POV. But alas it's clearly represented by its price.

For Pentax users the big question is will the 24MP sensor be used in a future Pentax DSLR. And how does it performs?

kenyee · 08-24-2011, 08:00 AM

That's damned impressive for Sony who has always had a reputation for expensive lenses but relatively bang for buck bodies.
The A700's features are impressive too for the cost...no mention of manual video control of aperture/shutter but it probably has it.

ogl · 08-24-2011, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by ManuH

Same for me. The NEX-7 is much more interesting from my POV. But alas it's clearly represented by its price.

For Pentax users the big question is will the 24MP sensor be used in a future Pentax DSLR. And how does it performs?

Sony Alpha SLT-A77 Camera - Hands-On Preview
very agressive NR - ISO1600 is not even close to 12 or 16 MP sensor.

**Digitalis** · 08-24-2011, 08:07 AM

not a fan of the short battery life of the A77 - when the battery runs out the blasted thing is nothing more than an expensive paperweight.you can't even look through the viewfinder unless it is turned on - that will take some getting used to for some.

Winder · 08-24-2011, 08:14 AM

It will be interesting to see what the RAW files look like. Sony has always had a bad JPEG engine, so the first round of images are not much to go by.

If Pentax can remove the AA filter and handle that function with software I think they could have a very interesting camera. The SLT technology take away 1/3 of the light and removing the AA filter would give you another 10-15%.

It is hard to say what Nikon and Pentax will be able to do with the new sensor. Both companies have a history of getting more out of a sensor than Sony does. Each company does their own micro-lenses/color filter/AA filter and apply different technology to the image processing.

ogl · 08-24-2011, 08:31 AM

24 MP MUST be without AA filter. But SONY put AA filter and strong NR.

RonHendriks1966 · 08-24-2011, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

not a fan of the short battery life of the A77 - when the battery runs out the blasted thing is nothing more than an expensive paperweight.you can't even look through the viewfinder unless it is turned on - that will take some getting used to for some.

strange that it runs on the same battery as A700. One would think that in 4 years time there should be some development in the battery bussiness.

Zygonyx · 08-24-2011, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by ogl

24 MP MUST be without AA filter. But SONY put AA filter and strong NR.

Are you sure it can avoïd AA filter ?

I guess the quality of the RAW files from the NEX 7 will give an indication if there is a qualitative margin Nikon and Pentax can reach, if and when they can afford the new 24Mp sensor.

ogl · 08-24-2011, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by RonHendriks1966

strange that it runs on the same battery as A700. One would think that in 4 years time there should be some development in the battery bussiness.

A77 has EVF. EVF and LV are very high power consuption

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08-24-2011, 07:18 AM	#2
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	Hmmm... I like the 16-50mm 2.8. Technology is bound to improve, sensors are bound to get better and better, and K-6 (or whatever) is bound to have this new sensor--but a nice looking, and most likely well performing Super Sonic wave Motor 16-50mm 2.8 for a starting cost of $700 impresses me a lot.

08-24-2011, 07:24 AM	#3
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	I doubt that we shall ever see an SLT from Pentax. We might see a camera with the same sensor at some point though. As always with Sony sensors it depends how far down Sony's customer list Pentax finds itself - Doesn't it normally go Sony - Nikon - Pentax in terms of access to new APS-Cs?

08-24-2011, 07:38 AM	#4
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Well sign me up for this K-3 with 24 megapixel sensor.

08-24-2011, 07:46 AM	#5
Mr. B Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Varaždin, Croatia, Europe Photos: Gallery Posts: 295	What kind of glass do you need to feed a 24 mpix sensor? Expensive... 16mpix in the K-5 is more than enough. If you need more, get a 645D or any other medium format camera. This is just silly...

08-24-2011, 07:51 AM	#6
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	The A77 makes me go "meh". I guess I have to try the electronic viewfinder first to really make up my mind. But I mean... both the A65 and the A77 are larger than the K-5, and the A77 is even almost exactly the same weight.

08-24-2011, 07:56 AM	#7
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	Originally posted by gazonk The A77 makes me go "meh". Same for me. The NEX-7 is much more interesting from my POV. But alas it's clearly represented by its price. For Pentax users the big question is will the 24MP sensor be used in a future Pentax DSLR. And how does it performs?

08-24-2011, 08:00 AM	#8
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	That's damned impressive for Sony who has always had a reputation for expensive lenses but relatively bang for buck bodies. The A700's features are impressive too for the cost...no mention of manual video control of aperture/shutter but it probably has it.

08-24-2011, 08:01 AM	#9
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by ManuH Same for me. The NEX-7 is much more interesting from my POV. But alas it's clearly represented by its price. For Pentax users the big question is will the 24MP sensor be used in a future Pentax DSLR. And how does it performs? Sony Alpha SLT-A77 Camera - Hands-On Preview very agressive NR - ISO1600 is not even close to 12 or 16 MP sensor.

08-24-2011, 08:07 AM	#10
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,694	not a fan of the short battery life of the A77 - when the battery runs out the blasted thing is nothing more than an expensive paperweight.you can't even look through the viewfinder unless it is turned on - that will take some getting used to for some.

08-24-2011, 08:14 AM	#11
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	It will be interesting to see what the RAW files look like. Sony has always had a bad JPEG engine, so the first round of images are not much to go by. If Pentax can remove the AA filter and handle that function with software I think they could have a very interesting camera. The SLT technology take away 1/3 of the light and removing the AA filter would give you another 10-15%. It is hard to say what Nikon and Pentax will be able to do with the new sensor. Both companies have a history of getting more out of a sensor than Sony does. Each company does their own micro-lenses/color filter/AA filter and apply different technology to the image processing.

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08-24-2011, 08:31 AM	#12
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	24 MP MUST be without AA filter. But SONY put AA filter and strong NR.

08-24-2011, 08:39 AM	#13
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Digitalis not a fan of the short battery life of the A77 - when the battery runs out the blasted thing is nothing more than an expensive paperweight.you can't even look through the viewfinder unless it is turned on - that will take some getting used to for some. strange that it runs on the same battery as A700. One would think that in 4 years time there should be some development in the battery bussiness.

08-24-2011, 08:41 AM	#14
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by ogl 24 MP MUST be without AA filter. But SONY put AA filter and strong NR. Are you sure it can avoïd AA filter ? I guess the quality of the RAW files from the NEX 7 will give an indication if there is a qualitative margin Nikon and Pentax can reach, if and when they can afford the new 24Mp sensor.

08-24-2011, 08:45 AM	#15
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by RonHendriks1966 strange that it runs on the same battery as A700. One would think that in 4 years time there should be some development in the battery bussiness. A77 has EVF. EVF and LV are very high power consuption