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StepOne · 09-01-2011, 11:43 PM

And the winner is....Pentax GXR

gazonk · 09-01-2011, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by Ubuntu_user

What? The K-5 just came out last October. That's One year old!

Could be a K-5 Super. The K-5 seems so good to me (I only have the K10d) that I'm not quite sure what they could make better, though.
Better video mode with AF during capture would be an obvious addition to make it tick more check boxes in reviews - but otherwise?

bwDraco · 09-02-2011, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Couscousdelight

Hi,
On the french Pentax website, you can download a invitation to the "salon de la photo" in Paris. (6 october 2011)
Here is a screenshot of the invitation :

Le Pentax ???
The translation of the text below the camera is : "Of course, we have other new products to introduce to you, but we can't tell you more for the moment"

Regards,
Arno

See Invitations gratuites pour le Salon de la photo 2011 - Actualités - PENTAX Europe Imaging Systems for the source of the invitation. The link to the PDF file is at the bottom of the page.

--DragonLord

TOUGEFC · 09-02-2011, 12:15 AM

I was told its a full-frame.

bwDraco · 09-02-2011, 12:24 AM

Originally posted by TOUGEFC

I was told its a full-frame.

- source?

--DragonLord

**fs999** · 09-02-2011, 12:37 AM

or a new concept called "half-full-frame"

calsan · 09-02-2011, 12:37 AM

Previously rumored Mirrorless K mount...?

Aku Ankka · 09-02-2011, 12:39 AM

If there is going to be a new release, the history of Pentax release schedule would indicate it to be a low end product. On the other hand, one key issue here is the avaiability of the new Sony 24Mp sensor. Nikon will certainly announce a product using it soon, Sony already has, and if Pentax tries to compete with a 16Mp model, it's not going to go well, not because of image quality issues, but because of psycological issues - 24 is a lot more than 16. It just feels so much better. So Pentax needs a 24Mp model. From practical point of view - it is likely that making a updated version of K-5 with the new Sony sensor is not be a major engineering problem, so I imagine they may well release K*5 - a K-5 with different sensor, but not really many/any other differences.

dlacouture · 09-02-2011, 02:31 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Could be a K-5 Super. The K-5 seems so good to me (I only have the K10d) that I'm not quite sure what they could make better, though.
Better video mode with AF during capture would be an obvious addition to make it tick more check boxes in reviews - but otherwise?

Well, apart from the sensor, I honestly can't see what else they could cram into a K5-sized body... Maybe an integrated GPS?

All I can think about are firmware improvements...

Liveview and Contrast AF could certainly be improved... Comparing the K7 or even K5 with a Samsung NX100 (same sensor as K7, BTW) does not go in favor of the big guns, believe me!
Video would be a definite area for improvements, but I don't really care about AF-C in video... A focus help of some sort would be welcome while recording, either with focus peak (a la Sony) or a focus bar (a la Samsung NX).

AF and burst are already really good... Maybe AF-C, as it's in no way predictive (but I'm afraid this would require a complete overhaul of the lens line, as I believe the weak link here is how the body and lens communicates to attain proper focus)...

At the end of the day, the K5 spoiled me so much my only dream would now be a 24x36 sensor...

StepOne · 09-02-2011, 02:45 AM

Whatever this camera is, has nothing to do with Ricoh, so it's in Hoya pipeline for some time now. Could be a K-r with k-5 sensor or the "other" mirrorless camera. I tend more to believe it's the "new" k-r. Ricoh anyway won't be present at that event.

Asahiflex · 09-02-2011, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by StepOne

Whatever this camera is, has nothing to do with Ricoh, so it's in Hoya pipeline for some time now. Could be a K-r with k-5 sensor or the "other" mirrorless camera. I tend more to believe it's the "new" k-r. Ricoh anyway won't be present at that event.

Since Pentax will be owned by Ricoh at that time, then in a sense they will be present.

Caat · 09-02-2011, 03:13 AM

In some ways I think if Pentax are ever going to go FF (which I personally don't think is actually a given) I think that they may actually be better off going with a mirrorless FF.

If the market for DSLRs is going to concentrate at the high-end and mid-low end DSLR slowly transform into the mirrorless market then I think Pentax has a better competitive edge against Panasonic, Olympus, Sony and Samsung than against Nikon and Canon in DSLRs - especially if Pentax can implement a FF mirrorless that isn't *too* much more expensive than the others then they can produce a unique offering.

I guess it all depends on Ricoh's long term plans.

VladM · 09-02-2011, 03:22 AM

If it is a K5 upgrade, and they iron out the issues they had with it, then my K20 will be on shaky ground.
On the other hand, may wait for 6 months or so after the new model release to see if there are any issues with it.

**Pål Jensen** · 09-02-2011, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Aku Ankka

If there is going to be a new release, the history of Pentax release schedule would indicate it to be a low end product. On the other hand, one key issue here is the avaiability of the new Sony 24Mp sensor. Nikon will certainly announce a product using it soon, Sony already has, and if Pentax tries to compete with a 16Mp model, it's not going to go well, not because of image quality issues, but because of psycological issues - 24 is a lot more than 16. It just feels so much better. So Pentax needs a 24Mp model. From practical point of view - it is likely that making a updated version of K-5 with the new Sony sensor is not be a major engineering problem, so I imagine they may well release K*5 - a K-5 with different sensor, but not really many/any other differences.

A likely scenario indeed. In addition they could make a model below this one using the current K-5 sensor....

But it might just be a new entry level model...

**Pål Jensen** · 09-02-2011, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by Caat

If the market for DSLRs is going to concentrate at the high-end and mid-low end DSLR slowly transform into the mirrorless market then I think Pentax has a better competitive edge against Panasonic, Olympus, Sony and Samsung than against Nikon and Canon in DSLRs - especially if Pentax can implement a FF mirrorless that isn't *too* much more expensive than the others then they can produce a unique offering..

There are no sign this is happening or indeed any reason for it to happen. Nikon and Canon are reporting record sales of DSLR's in spite of mirrorless.
Ricoh is interested in Pentax because of their DSLR's and see a great potential.....

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09-01-2011, 11:43 PM	#31
StepOne Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Botosani Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 285	And the winner is....Pentax GXR

09-01-2011, 11:55 PM	#32
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Ubuntu_user What? The K-5 just came out last October. That's One year old! Could be a K-5 Super. The K-5 seems so good to me (I only have the K10d) that I'm not quite sure what they could make better, though. Better video mode with AF during capture would be an obvious addition to make it tick more check boxes in reviews - but otherwise?

09-02-2011, 12:04 AM	#33
bwDraco Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 1,071	Originally posted by Couscousdelight Hi, On the french Pentax website, you can download a invitation to the "salon de la photo" in Paris. (6 october 2011) Here is a screenshot of the invitation : Le Pentax ??? The translation of the text below the camera is : "Of course, we have other new products to introduce to you, but we can't tell you more for the moment" Regards, Arno See Invitations gratuites pour le Salon de la photo 2011 - Actualités - PENTAX Europe Imaging Systems for the source of the invitation. The link to the PDF file is at the bottom of the page. --DragonLord

09-02-2011, 12:15 AM	#34
TOUGEFC Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Brisbane Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,561	I was told its a full-frame.

09-02-2011, 12:24 AM	#35
bwDraco Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York Photos: Albums Posts: 1,071	Originally posted by TOUGEFC I was told its a full-frame. - source? --DragonLord

09-02-2011, 12:37 AM	#36
fs999 Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Luxembourg Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,650	or a new concept called "half-full-frame"

09-02-2011, 12:37 AM	#37
calsan Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Perth, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,549	Previously rumored Mirrorless K mount...?

09-02-2011, 12:39 AM	#38
Aku Ankka Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 53	If there is going to be a new release, the history of Pentax release schedule would indicate it to be a low end product. On the other hand, one key issue here is the avaiability of the new Sony 24Mp sensor. Nikon will certainly announce a product using it soon, Sony already has, and if Pentax tries to compete with a 16Mp model, it's not going to go well, not because of image quality issues, but because of psycological issues - 24 is a lot more than 16. It just feels so much better. So Pentax needs a 24Mp model. From practical point of view - it is likely that making a updated version of K-5 with the new Sony sensor is not be a major engineering problem, so I imagine they may well release K*5 - a K-5 with different sensor, but not really many/any other differences.

09-02-2011, 02:31 AM	#39
dlacouture Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Var, South of France Photos: Albums Posts: 1,074	Originally posted by gazonk Could be a K-5 Super. The K-5 seems so good to me (I only have the K10d) that I'm not quite sure what they could make better, though. Better video mode with AF during capture would be an obvious addition to make it tick more check boxes in reviews - but otherwise? Well, apart from the sensor, I honestly can't see what else they could cram into a K5-sized body... Maybe an integrated GPS? All I can think about are firmware improvements... Liveview and Contrast AF could certainly be improved... Comparing the K7 or even K5 with a Samsung NX100 (same sensor as K7, BTW) does not go in favor of the big guns, believe me! Video would be a definite area for improvements, but I don't really care about AF-C in video... A focus help of some sort would be welcome while recording, either with focus peak (a la Sony) or a focus bar (a la Samsung NX). AF and burst are already really good... Maybe AF-C, as it's in no way predictive (but I'm afraid this would require a complete overhaul of the lens line, as I believe the weak link here is how the body and lens communicates to attain proper focus)... At the end of the day, the K5 spoiled me so much my only dream would now be a 24x36 sensor...

09-02-2011, 02:45 AM	#40
StepOne Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Botosani Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 285	Whatever this camera is, has nothing to do with Ricoh, so it's in Hoya pipeline for some time now. Could be a K-r with k-5 sensor or the "other" mirrorless camera. I tend more to believe it's the "new" k-r. Ricoh anyway won't be present at that event.

09-02-2011, 02:48 AM	#41
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by StepOne Whatever this camera is, has nothing to do with Ricoh, so it's in Hoya pipeline for some time now. Could be a K-r with k-5 sensor or the "other" mirrorless camera. I tend more to believe it's the "new" k-r. Ricoh anyway won't be present at that event. Since Pentax will be owned by Ricoh at that time, then in a sense they will be present.

09-02-2011, 03:13 AM	#42
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	In some ways I think if Pentax are ever going to go FF (which I personally don't think is actually a given) I think that they may actually be better off going with a mirrorless FF. If the market for DSLRs is going to concentrate at the high-end and mid-low end DSLR slowly transform into the mirrorless market then I think Pentax has a better competitive edge against Panasonic, Olympus, Sony and Samsung than against Nikon and Canon in DSLRs - especially if Pentax can implement a FF mirrorless that isn't too much more expensive than the others then they can produce a unique offering. I guess it all depends on Ricoh's long term plans.

09-02-2011, 03:22 AM	#43
VladM Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Melbourne Photos: Albums Posts: 307	If it is a K5 upgrade, and they iron out the issues they had with it, then my K20 will be on shaky ground. On the other hand, may wait for 6 months or so after the new model release to see if there are any issues with it.

09-02-2011, 03:30 AM	#44
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Aku Ankka If there is going to be a new release, the history of Pentax release schedule would indicate it to be a low end product. On the other hand, one key issue here is the avaiability of the new Sony 24Mp sensor. Nikon will certainly announce a product using it soon, Sony already has, and if Pentax tries to compete with a 16Mp model, it's not going to go well, not because of image quality issues, but because of psycological issues - 24 is a lot more than 16. It just feels so much better. So Pentax needs a 24Mp model. From practical point of view - it is likely that making a updated version of K-5 with the new Sony sensor is not be a major engineering problem, so I imagine they may well release K*5 - a K-5 with different sensor, but not really many/any other differences. A likely scenario indeed. In addition they could make a model below this one using the current K-5 sensor.... But it might just be a new entry level model...

09-02-2011, 03:33 AM	#45
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by Caat If the market for DSLRs is going to concentrate at the high-end and mid-low end DSLR slowly transform into the mirrorless market then I think Pentax has a better competitive edge against Panasonic, Olympus, Sony and Samsung than against Nikon and Canon in DSLRs - especially if Pentax can implement a FF mirrorless that isn't too much more expensive than the others then they can produce a unique offering.. There are no sign this is happening or indeed any reason for it to happen. Nikon and Canon are reporting record sales of DSLR's in spite of mirrorless. Ricoh is interested in Pentax because of their DSLR's and see a great potential.....

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