Pentax camera teasing

**ben-pentax** · 09-02-2011, 03:40 AM

Originally posted by DragonLord

See Invitations gratuites pour le Salon de la photo 2011 - Actualités - PENTAX Europe Imaging Systems for the source of the invitation. The link to the PDF file is at the bottom of the page.

--DragonLord

There's no "Le PENTAX ???" part when I view it.

lepiallou · 09-02-2011, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by ben-pentax

There's no "Le PENTAX ???" part when I view it.

Same here...

So it was a fake ??? Or they removed it ? Does someone as the original pdf file with "Le PENTAX ???" on it ?

eighter · 09-02-2011, 03:57 AM

sure, they removed it !!!!!

i was seeing it just before !!!!!!

very curious !

lepiallou · 09-02-2011, 04:03 AM

@ eighter : do you still have it in your temporary files ? I would like to see it...

Couscousdelight · 09-02-2011, 04:40 AM

I have the original PDF at home, i will post it this evening when i'm back from work.
It's not a fake, i've downloaded it from Pentax France yesterday.

But it's true than there is a new PDF file without "le Pentax ???"

Woermel · 09-02-2011, 04:57 AM

you can see it here:
There may really be a new Pentax DSLR | Photo Rumors

Adam · 09-02-2011, 05:02 AM

You can attach the PDF to your post if it's under 3Mb, I think, if you want to be sure

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RonHendriks1966 · 09-02-2011, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by lepiallou

Same here...

So it was a fake ??? Or they removed it ? Does someone as the original pdf file with "Le PENTAX ???" on it ?

So now I'm officially weard:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20195454/PentaxParis.pdf

eighter · 09-02-2011, 05:10 AM

Fourni par Google Documents

lepiallou · 09-02-2011, 05:21 AM

Thanks for the original pdf file.

Now I am wondering what will really happen the 6th of october !!!

DaveBlack · 09-02-2011, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by dlacouture

Well, apart from the sensor, I honestly can't see what else they could cram into a K5-sized body... Maybe an integrated GPS?

All I can think about are firmware improvements...

Liveview and Contrast AF could certainly be improved... Comparing the K7 or even K5 with a Samsung NX100 (same sensor as K7, BTW) does not go in favor of the big guns, believe me!
Video would be a definite area for improvements, but I don't really care about AF-C in video... A focus help of some sort would be welcome while recording, either with focus peak (a la Sony) or a focus bar (a la Samsung NX).

AF and burst are already really good... Maybe AF-C, as it's in no way predictive (but I'm afraid this would require a complete overhaul of the lens line, as I believe the weak link here is how the body and lens communicates to attain proper focus)...

At the end of the day, the K5 spoiled me so much my only dream would now be a 24x36 sensor...

The K-5 is a very good camera. It is the first model where I just had to buy a second one to have two bodies. I have over 10,000 shots on the first one and over 5,000 shots one the second body. I just love the K-5.

Still there is room for improvements. The things I would like to see impoved are:
1. Spot AF. At least the center but more likely 5 spot AF sensors with one in the center and the other four at the 1/3 intersection. They will be F2.8 AF sensors with only a very small area for each. It will be in addition to the regular 9 AF sensors.
2. Better AF tracking in AF-C mode.

Both could be in the same body as the K7/K5 body.

A new slightly larger body could have the following new features:
1. Two SD slots
2. Swivel/flip screen
3. Radio control remote flash controller built in.

Then what ever happened to the Pentax patent from a few years ago that had digital image projection in the viewfinder. It would be nice if they could do both optical and digital imaging in the viewfinder. I find that I am using Liveview on lowlight to better manually focus and would rather be doing it through the viewfinder than holding the camera in front of me.

All of these features above the K-5 will mean that it will be a new flagship model and maybe the K-5 will become a mid-level cameraand Pentax will finally have a three teir dslr camera system.

Dave

asw66 · 09-02-2011, 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Caat

In some ways I think if Pentax are ever going to go FF (which I personally don't think is actually a given) I think that they may actually be better off going with a mirrorless FF.

Yes, I've had similar thoughts for some time now. Going straight to mirrorless for FF would have the advantage of not being just another "me too" product. And now that the Q is a reality, Pentax have experience in developing mirrorless bodies.

**ManuH** · 09-02-2011, 07:19 AM

Right now Pentax is more in need of replacing the uncompetitive K-r. The sensor has to be upgraded (probably the 16MP). And following their past schedule, it means a new entry level in September. The entry-level market is much more important for revenues I would think. It will cost almost no R&D to update: keep the same body, put the new sensor, done.

The K-5 is still very competitive and can wait an update on schedule for about feb-march 2012. This will probably get the new 24MP sensor if it's any good.

But honestly I'd like to be wrong and be (nicely) surprised

johnmflores · 09-02-2011, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by rawr

= worthless old junk by the standards of today's camera market. Pentax really need to move faster. In a month or two I expect they won't even be able to give away K-5's for free. Pentax is dead.

fearview · 09-02-2011, 08:46 AM

wonder wheter will it be a FF?

noooo. i dont want another 50 pages of Pentax FF thread

.

09-02-2011, 03:40 AM	#46
ben-pentax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 133	Currently the PDF ends with the Q, and nothing more Originally posted by DragonLord See Invitations gratuites pour le Salon de la photo 2011 - Actualités - PENTAX Europe Imaging Systems for the source of the invitation. The link to the PDF file is at the bottom of the page. --DragonLord There's no "Le PENTAX ???" part when I view it.

09-02-2011, 03:57 AM	#48
eighter New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: paris Posts: 5	they removed it !!! sure, they removed it !!!!! i was seeing it just before !!!!!! very curious !

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09-02-2011, 03:50 AM	#47
lepiallou Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 135	Originally posted by ben-pentax There's no "Le PENTAX ???" part when I view it. Same here... So it was a fake ??? Or they removed it ? Does someone as the original pdf file with "Le PENTAX ???" on it ?

09-02-2011, 04:03 AM	#49
lepiallou Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 135	@ eighter : do you still have it in your temporary files ? I would like to see it...

09-02-2011, 04:40 AM	#50
Couscousdelight Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Frog-eaters country Photos: Gallery Posts: 357 Original Poster	I have the original PDF at home, i will post it this evening when i'm back from work. It's not a fake, i've downloaded it from Pentax France yesterday. But it's true than there is a new PDF file without "le Pentax ???"

09-02-2011, 04:57 AM	#51
Woermel Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3	you can see it here: There may really be a new Pentax DSLR \| Photo Rumors

09-02-2011, 05:02 AM	#52
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593	You can attach the PDF to your post if it's under 3Mb, I think, if you want to be sure Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

09-02-2011, 05:10 AM	#53
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by lepiallou Same here... So it was a fake ??? Or they removed it ? Does someone as the original pdf file with "Le PENTAX ???" on it ? So now I'm officially weard: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20195454/PentaxParis.pdf

09-02-2011, 05:10 AM	#54
eighter New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: paris Posts: 5	Fourni par Google Documents

09-02-2011, 05:21 AM	#55
lepiallou Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 135	Thanks for the original pdf file. Now I am wondering what will really happen the 6th of october !!!

09-02-2011, 05:50 AM	#56
DaveBlack Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 441	Originally posted by dlacouture Well, apart from the sensor, I honestly can't see what else they could cram into a K5-sized body... Maybe an integrated GPS? All I can think about are firmware improvements... Liveview and Contrast AF could certainly be improved... Comparing the K7 or even K5 with a Samsung NX100 (same sensor as K7, BTW) does not go in favor of the big guns, believe me! Video would be a definite area for improvements, but I don't really care about AF-C in video... A focus help of some sort would be welcome while recording, either with focus peak (a la Sony) or a focus bar (a la Samsung NX). AF and burst are already really good... Maybe AF-C, as it's in no way predictive (but I'm afraid this would require a complete overhaul of the lens line, as I believe the weak link here is how the body and lens communicates to attain proper focus)... At the end of the day, the K5 spoiled me so much my only dream would now be a 24x36 sensor... The K-5 is a very good camera. It is the first model where I just had to buy a second one to have two bodies. I have over 10,000 shots on the first one and over 5,000 shots one the second body. I just love the K-5. Still there is room for improvements. The things I would like to see impoved are: 1. Spot AF. At least the center but more likely 5 spot AF sensors with one in the center and the other four at the 1/3 intersection. They will be F2.8 AF sensors with only a very small area for each. It will be in addition to the regular 9 AF sensors. 2. Better AF tracking in AF-C mode. Both could be in the same body as the K7/K5 body. A new slightly larger body could have the following new features: 1. Two SD slots 2. Swivel/flip screen 3. Radio control remote flash controller built in. Then what ever happened to the Pentax patent from a few years ago that had digital image projection in the viewfinder. It would be nice if they could do both optical and digital imaging in the viewfinder. I find that I am using Liveview on lowlight to better manually focus and would rather be doing it through the viewfinder than holding the camera in front of me. All of these features above the K-5 will mean that it will be a new flagship model and maybe the K-5 will become a mid-level cameraand Pentax will finally have a three teir dslr camera system. Dave

09-02-2011, 05:56 AM	#57
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	Originally posted by Caat In some ways I think if Pentax are ever going to go FF (which I personally don't think is actually a given) I think that they may actually be better off going with a mirrorless FF. Yes, I've had similar thoughts for some time now. Going straight to mirrorless for FF would have the advantage of not being just another "me too" product. And now that the Q is a reality, Pentax have experience in developing mirrorless bodies.

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09-02-2011, 07:19 AM	#58
ManuH Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Montreal Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,249	Right now Pentax is more in need of replacing the uncompetitive K-r. The sensor has to be upgraded (probably the 16MP). And following their past schedule, it means a new entry level in September. The entry-level market is much more important for revenues I would think. It will cost almost no R&D to update: keep the same body, put the new sensor, done. The K-5 is still very competitive and can wait an update on schedule for about feb-march 2012. This will probably get the new 24MP sensor if it's any good. But honestly I'd like to be wrong and be (nicely) surprised

09-02-2011, 08:31 AM	#59
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by rawr = worthless old junk by the standards of today's camera market. Pentax really need to move faster. In a month or two I expect they won't even be able to give away K-5's for free. Pentax is dead.

09-02-2011, 08:46 AM	#60
fearview Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Jakarta Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,067	wonder wheter will it be a FF? noooo. i dont want another 50 pages of Pentax FF thread .