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09-20-2011, 06:48 AM   #286
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Falconeye is wrong when he says no one will want a 12 MP camera. This behavior will depend completely on the price. I can already buy a 50
MP Hasselblad.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Aristophanes Quote
Falconeye is wrong when he says no one will want a 12 MP camera. This behavior will depend completely on the price. I can already buy a 50
MP Hasselblad.
I said what we will want to buy. We don't always do what we want to do. E.g., I want a 645D but don't buy it. I think you see what I wanted to say. But didn't
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QuoteOriginally posted by Class A Quote
Or if only to provide photographers with a "software TC". I'd rather crop than "tele-convert" optically.


If you like 16.3MP on APS-C, an FF offering should have at least 37MP to allow you to use your APS-C lenses on the FF sensor without sacrificing resolution / "reach".

I fully see the point against unwieldy file sizes and I still do get along with 6MP only but I look forward to higher MP sensors as they will allow softer AA filters and provide the resolution in situations where you really want it. As Falk said, it is possible to (optionally) provide smaller RAW files from high MP sensors, so one really can get the best of both worlds.
I like 16 megapixel sensors, but not because of the resolution, I don't really see that big difference over the K10, but because of increased dynamic range, high iso -- things like that. There isn't a problem with increasing resolution, as long as image quality doesn't suffer. It just seems that if the focus turns to resolution, faster fps, video processing, then often still image quality does suffer as a result.

I want my still camera to take the best still photos possible. I don't mind if other stuff is there, but its all gravy.

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QuoteOriginally posted by gazonk Quote
If your current computer is relatively new, why not keep your current camera until the computer needs upgrading anyway? My work machine is a 17" quad core i7 iMac w/ 16GB RAM, currently maybe a luxury, but these specs will soon be mainstream. I just tried editing a 645D DNG file in Aperture on the iMac, felt just as snappy as K10D PEF files on my (also fast and quite recent) laptop...
Only a 17'' ?

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Only a 17'' ?

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But the edge is just 25 miles down the road.
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But the edge is just 25 miles down the road.
How far away does that make the north pole?

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How far away does that make the north pole?
I would go look but I don't want to fall off the edge. I may damage Santa's house.
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Maybe I'll go look, cause I don't care about Santa... If I ever make it back, I'll let you know how far it is.
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The edge here is about 1500 feet away then it turns to liquid.
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If that's true then I'm not overly happy. The problem is that I lack the processing power for 50MP+ files. It just doesn't fit into my workflow. Even 25MP would be a bit too much. I see no real gain for the semi-pro and amateur market. Of course, from a marketing point of view it makes sense, but more MP's are highly impractical for many of us.
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If your current computer is relatively new, why not keep your current camera until the computer needs upgrading anyway? My work machine is a 17" quad core i7 iMac w/ 16GB RAM, currently maybe a luxury, but these specs will soon be mainstream. I just tried editing a 645D DNG file in Aperture on the iMac, felt just as snappy as K10D PEF files on my (also fast and quite recent) laptop...
I'm busy upgrading my PC. Somethings I already did and some are on order. So I kept my PC housing and installation with Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits.

I purchased a Fujitsu P27T-6 27" screen with 2560x1440 pixels that is amazing. Going to put in 16 gig RAM (from 8) since Lightroom (new for me too) is consuming it. Put in a USB 3 port card and ordered an usb 3 cardreader. Ordered a six core processor (up from quadcore) from AMD. Installed duo 2 TB for photofile storing in a single mode (so both are excactly the same and in my PC they function as a single item).

This should be enough for the next generation camera's and more megapixel pictures.
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This should be enough for the next generation camera's and more megapixel pictures.
Photography doesn't require the latest in computer tech.

After all, compared to video processing, still image processing isn't that demanding.

Assuming an 8GB main memory machine, a 24MP 8bpp image only consumes 1% of main memory and even a 100MP 16bpp image only consumes 8% of main memory.

As far as processing goes, even the K-5's battery-powered embedded processor can process 7 16MP raw images per second ...
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote

As far as processing goes, even the K-5's battery-powered embedded processor can process 7 16MP raw images per second ...
That's why I don't understand how Lightroom is such a dog even on a modern i7-3400K running @4.5Ghz
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QuoteOriginally posted by falconeye Quote
Photography doesn't require the latest in computer tech.

After all, compared to video processing, still image processing isn't that demanding.

Assuming an 8GB main memory machine, a 24MP 8bpp image only consumes 1% of main memory and even a 100MP 16bpp image only consumes 8% of main memory.

As far as processing goes, even the K-5's battery-powered embedded processor can process 7 16MP raw images per second ...
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I'd have to agree, I do most of my image processing on an i5 based laptop (23'' LCD display attached) with 8GB RAM, ATI 5470 graphics & and a garden-variety 7200rpm 500GB disk. It suits my needs (hobbyist) well.

Makes me wonder if the problem a lot of people see is disk fragmentation, or a messy process space. You need to make sure you don't have a bunch of crap running in the background when you're running LR.

What exactly are you folks finding 'slow', image load times, image export times, something else?


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