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10-03-2011, 04:42 AM - 1 Like   #451
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
CCD does not have mass market appeal, but is a great fit for Leica and MF users where still image quality is all that is important.
And I suppose in today's bells and whistles market, a compact FF DSLR model based on a CCD w/o video or live view would have to have that red dot to sell....

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And I suppose in today's bells and whistles market, a compact FF DSLR model based on a CCD w/o video or live view would have to have that red dot to sell....
I don't know. Sony tried it with the A900 (no liveview, no HD video) and it was a bust. The A900 is IMHO the best FF on the market for someone who does not need bells & whistles, but its sales have been rather poor. The build quality and VF are top notch. IQ up to 1600 is really good and with LR3 even 3200 & 6400 is very usable. If I thought Sony was going to continue making OVF for FF I would have already made the switch from my Canon 5D to an A900.

There is a market, but it is small.
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yes

agreed!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
There is a market, but it is small.
Yes, the market of > $2000 cameras is and will be limited.

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Sony has stopped the production of the A900, they aren't producing any fullframe DSLR any more at the moment.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Winder Quote
I don't know. Sony tried it with the A900 (no liveview, no HD video) and it was a bust.
That doesn't really disprove my point. 8^)
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they aren't producing any fullframe DSLR any more at the moment.
Things certainly don't look good for Sony producing any new full-frame sensors then.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Anvh Quote
Sony has stopped the production of the A900, they aren't producing any fullframe DSLR any more at the moment.
QuoteOriginally posted by rawr Quote
Things certainly don't look good for Sony producing any new full-frame sensors then.
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You guys need to keep up on current events! (or at least 'SR5' level rumours.)


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1) The roadmap for FF lenses and camers has been shifted forward for a couple of months. Like it was for the A77 everything has been delayed. I will give you more info about the new Fulflrame lenses soon.

2) There will be more than one (probably three!) new fullframe cameras in 2012

3) Not a single one of those will have a classic DSLR design (no classic mirror, no prisma)

4) The A99 (one of the three cameras) should be unveiled before the Photokina 2012 show in September (I am not sure yet when Sony will announced about other one-two fullframe cameras)

5) Sony developed a new 36Megapixel fullframe sensor which will probably fit inside the A99.

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36mp FF Sony sensor !

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Finally we can start to talk about “serious” full-frame rumors coming from trusted sources. First, our Japanese friend and administrator of DigitalCameraInfo (Click here) got an interesting info about the upcoming Nikon D800. The rumor confirms what we told you back in June: Sony developed a new 36 Megapixel sensor that is going to be used inside the next Nikon FF camera (Click here to read the original article).

And now the good news: I have been told by our sources that Sony will first share the sensor to Nikon and than use it on their own FF camera which will be announced early 2012! The exact release date has not been chosen yet but I have been told there are is a huge pressure to release it as soon as possible. Compared to the Nikon D800 the Sony (A99?) will have slightly different specs and a lower(!) price. The Nikon D800 can take 4 frames per second, records 1920 × 1080/30p and cost 300.000 Yen (3.000 Euro, or $4000). The major difference is that Nikon has an optical viewfinder while the Sony has SLT technology. Meanwhile the Sony A900 has been discontinued and you will see some nice rebates soon. I will keep you updated with specs and news I am getting form my sources. It’s really an exciting time
sonyalpharumors | Blog | (SR4) Sony FF with 36 Megapixel sensor coming early 2012 (Nikon D800 with same sensor).
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QuoteOriginally posted by jsherman999 Quote
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You guys need to keep up on current events! (or at least 'SR5' level rumours.)


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1) The roadmap for FF lenses and camers has been shifted forward for a couple of months. Like it was for the A77 everything has been delayed. I will give you more info about the new Fulflrame lenses soon.

2) There will be more than one (probably three!) new fullframe cameras in 2012

3) Not a single one of those will have a classic DSLR design (no classic mirror, no prisma)

4) The A99 (one of the three cameras) should be unveiled before the Photokina 2012 show in September (I am not sure yet when Sony will announced about other one-two fullframe cameras)

5) Sony developed a new 36Megapixel fullframe sensor which will probably fit inside the A99.

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Mirrorless FF? Bye-bye pentax in this case.
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Relevant or not, would PRICL (Pentax Ricoh Ltd) manage to package a FF DSLR into an Pentax LX/MX SLR comparable body construction and size, it would sell like cup-cakes !
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Relevant or not, would PRICL (Pentax Ricoh Ltd) manage to package a FF DSLR into an Pentax LX/MX SLR comparable body construction and size, it would sell like cup-cakes !
Agree, I would buy it without a doubt.
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I like one of the comments in the Sonyalpharumours page linked to above:

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"For a tiny proportion of shooters FF folks are certainly vocal. And expect to be catered to when no one else is. ..."


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Agree, I would buy it without a doubt.
It's on my wishlist. So price/performance would make the difference for early/later purchase.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Anvh Quote
Sony has stopped the production of the A900, they aren't producing any fullframe DSLR any more at the moment.
The discontinued the A700 for over a year before they replaced it with the new A77. The A900 replacement will be out next year after Nikon releases the D800 with the new Sony 36MP sensor. Apparently it will have SLT technology as well.

Sony has a couple of FF lenses still on their road map. They don't have any plans to discontinue the FF line. FF is part of their overall marketing strategy. They can not take down Canon with out one, and that is their target.
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