Originally posted by glanglois The number of lens mounts matters a great deal if each mount requires a set of unique lenses - more R&D time and money for more models with fewer lenses sold per model. Drives up unit cost.
If each model is a discrete category and market opportunity then what maters is the profits. The medium format Pentax line kind of made Pentax viable (and Mamiya) when the Canikon and Minolta dominance emerged in the 1980's.
Originally posted by glanglois Buyers will always demand more lens options. This forum is evidence. It becomes a competitive necessity at some point. A few lenses will almost certainly need to become quite a few lenses.
True, but with a point of diminishing returns to the manufacturer. Look at an 1980's Pentax or Canon catalog. It's insane how many lenses and accessories there are. Some items were only produced in the hundreds because there was so little demand. The goal was to bulk the brand not with revenues from the actual per unit sales of each item, but on the whole package as a marketing opportunity.
The first company to get out of that arms race was the one that started it: Olympus. They pretty much dropped out of SLR's when autofocus came along. They very successfully went for the jugular on small P&S cameras and pretty much abandoned the OM line. They did so because the unit cost of producing so many lenses became ridiculous when what you were manufacturing was inventory for a marketing shoot.
Originally posted by abacus07 TBH the most significant arguments for K mount APSC surviving long term are made by those that are heavily invested in it. Pentax won't completely abandon it but the money is going to be spent on attracting new customers. I can see Pentax continuing to develop new bodies since most of that is software and sensor improvement that will be developed regardless of product line. But you can forget about new lenses. And at some point the existing users will migrate also. Maybe they migrate to a different brand in 5-10 years but if Pentax is going to survive it will be because they released the best possible mirrorless product instead of one full of compromises to keep the Kmount. note - I will be very sad to see K mount go.
The best example for what the future holds probably comes from Leica. They held on the manual focus rangefinder line, added an SLR line, got into P&S, went digital, almost went bankrupt doing stupid things to dilute the brand, and then reintroduced a staggeringly expensive DSLR line. Tie and again Leica has proven that old quality tech with methodical, slow innovation sells cameras. They mess up (the M8) and almost completely tanked financially about 5 years ago, but someone pulled a Steve Jobs on the company and now they are in demand again with talk of a new digital system on the horizon probably aimed at a lower price tier than uber-silly M9 prices.
The point is that the DSLR has created a stunning boom in photography since the Nikon D100 and Canon Rebel came out. The user base for the SLR format has never been bigger. It is still growing, if not share, in aggregate volume. A great number of people love the form factor and the OVF. A substantial number of pros will never give up an OVF in the same way that those favouring a street shooter style never gave up on Leica's rangefinders.
This is not about replacing one type of camera wit another. It's about new systems for evolving market while the entrenched systems still exist because we want them to. Ricoh probably bought Pentax precisely to leverage that conservative philosophy guiding the SLR market. The idea that all cameras will be mirrorless, EVF, pocketable items is simply not borne out by either current market data or history. I am pretty sure mirorless will take a hefty, even majority share, of the large sensor market, but it will not eliminate the DSLR.