Originally posted by monochrome My daughter lives and works on Manhattan Island in broadcast Network News. She has no choice about where to live - she has to live in New York. Her monthly rent for an UWS 3rd floor walkup is 2x my monthly mortgage for a vintage 4BR on 2 acres. Granted, the Park is a block away and she has street views and closets (pre-war construction). There's just someting about living in a city where windows and closets are a premium feature that bends me.
It is a lifestyle choice.
At one time if you were in the fur trade you had to be in St. Louis.
My employer recently moved their global HQ out of the city and most of the competitors in my business are getting away as fast as they can.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
I've lived in Manhattan, too. Raised there, been there nearly my whole life. She certainly does have a choice and I am also from the UWS and I believe I know exactly where you're talking she works. You DO NOT need to live there to work where she's working. In fact, one of my friends is likely a colleague of hers in that same area and he lives in Brooklyn. Again, you do not need to leave where she's living. The UWS is where you go when you have luxury and disposable income. It's elective to be there, not a must. For example, John Stossel lives on 81st near the AMNH. I lived on 79th between Amsterdam and Columbus. Go to CPW and that's where the movie stars are living.
It's elective to live there and you are presenting a distorted view. She can even just get off the island and be literally a 15 minute train ride away in the revitalized parts of LIC for 1/2 the price. Even downtown she can find something.
Regardless, you're presenting Manhattan as all of NY, but it's fairly obvious you don't actually know the geography. Most of those companies are out on Long Island, in Huntington. The others are across in NJ. Olympus used to be a few exits further out east.
Canon used to be further west, but moved out to a fairly prosperous and easy to access area in Melville (in Huntington). We're talking about 45 miles from Manhattan, out of NYC.
Incidentally, many people from LI commute to NYC via train as well. Many from Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx, and so on. Even hipsterific Williamsburg has mass numbers of people commuting in because one doesn't HAVE to live in Manhattan for any reason.
This is not an "agree to disagree" situation here when you don't seem to know the geography of the NY/Tri-state area and you think Manhattan "Island" is the same thing as Melville and you present your daughter's real estate debacle when we're talking about why many of the world's major corporations have to be stationed in NYC or near it.