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01-07-2012, 05:36 AM   #166
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K-r sales in any and all colors got pulled from B&H.

Only Pentax K-5 is listed in 4 options:

DSLR Cameras

Pentax Canada says K-5 is discontinued when dealers inquire.

The black & red pair of 645D at B&H are still available for $10,000 and $15,000

Medium Format Cameras

Ricoh has prior experience shuttering an entire slr k mount system.
Their stated goal was putting 645D sensor into archival copier system, now with kodak is on edge of bankruptcy, I'd guess Ricoh are screwed too.
Looks to me Hoya cashed out of Pentax dslrs division just at right time.

In meantime, for the Holidays I dropped another $4,500 on other full frame related glass and gear elsewhere.
All still "Made in Japan", where costs are higher and great Quality Control is a priority.

2012 tech Nikon D4 looks HOT !
At about half the cost of 3 years old 645D, Nikon D4 is a true bargain if vast first party lens selection, pro support, and high resale value matter to the photographer.

Inspite of the Thai Floods, Nikon can produce Dslrs and come out with new products too.

Canon can make and offer products even though they also still make gear in Japan where the Tsunami hit March 2011.

Why do Canon and Nikon prevail while Ricoh remains silent ???

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QuoteOriginally posted by Samsungian Quote
Their stated goal was putting 645D sensor into archival copier system
Source?
01-07-2012, 06:42 AM   #168
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QuoteOriginally posted by macTak Quote
Source?
Probably his ass.
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From the Ricoh press release " Ricoh plans to ... 3) expand to other
fields (study of entry into the image archiving business using medium-format digital cameras and
enhancement of security-related products) ..."

Not macTak's exact words but close enough to suggest a different orifice.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Samsungian Quote
Their stated goal was putting 645D sensor into archival copier system, now with kodak is on edge of bankruptcy, I'd guess Ricoh are screwed too.
Kodak already sold the sensor division, months ago, and the new company has announced several new sensors. So assuming Pentax or Ricoh wants to use the 645D sensor it is certainly available.
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In past 12 months Kodak has dropped from almost $6.00 pershare to just 37 Cents per share last Friday

24 months ago Kodak was $8.00 pershare

http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=EK


Kodak stock closed Friday Jan 6th at just 37 Cents pershare, down 47% since January 1st 2012.

I wonder,

How will Kodak's Bankruptcy Plans effect their ability to produce medium format sensors for the new sensor fab owners,
Platinum Equity in 2012 ???

From dpreview just 62 days ago, way back when Kodak insisted they would not consider bankruptcy:

"On November 7th 2011 Kodak has sold its Image Sensor Solutions business to Platinum Equity in a bid to strengthen its financial position. The company, which has struggled to manage the shift in the consumer photographic market from film to digital, also recently revealed that it may have to raise cash by the sale of more than 1100 patents to survive the coming year. Image Sensor Solutions provides sensors for the Leica M9 and S2 and a number of medium format backs, as well as a wide range of specialist imaging applications.


Press release:

Kodak Sells Image Sensor Business to Platinum Equity
ROCHESTER, N.Y., November 07 - Eastman Kodak Company (NYSE:EK) announced today that it has completed the sale of its Image Sensor Solutions (ISS) business to Platinum Equity in a move that will sharpen Kodak’s operational focus and strengthen its financial position.
While the financial details were not disclosed, Kodak will have continuing access to the image sensor technology involved in this transaction for use in its own products. Kodak has previously communicated that it would sell assets that are not central to its transformation to a profitable, sustainable digital company. This sale is aligned with that strategy to generate cash to complete the transformation.

Included in the sale is a 263,000 square foot facility in Eastman Business Park in Rochester, N.Y., that houses manufacturing and research facilities.

The ISS business develops, manufactures, and markets the world’s highest performance solid state image sensor devices. Over the past 30 years, Kodak’s image sensors have delivered unrivaled image quality and innovative features for use in a broad range of demanding imaging applications. From precision manufacturing inspection to digital radiography, from earth imaging satellites to traffic monitoring, from the world’s highest performing studio photography cameras to DNA sequencing systems, customers around the world rely on high-performance products from ISS in the most mission-critical applications.

Platinum Equity is a global M&A&O® firm specializing in the merger, acquisition and operation of companies that provide services and solutions to customers in a broad range of business markets.

“Image Sensor Solutions is a business that is well-positioned in the high-performance imaging markets in which it participates,” said Pradeep Jotwani, President, Consumer Digital Imaging Group, and Senior Vice President, Eastman Kodak Company. “This sale maximizes shareholder value by obtaining a full and fair valuation for this business, and allows Kodak to increase its financial flexibility.”

Jotwani noted that Platinum Equity brings significant financial and operational resources to the ISS business and a comprehensive plan to ensure its continued success.

“Platinum Equity is an ideal acquirer of Kodak’s ISS business because they are committed to the success of the business for the benefit of customers and employees,” Jotwani said. “I’m very pleased that we have such a favorable outcome for all of our constituents.”

Platinum Equity focuses on acquiring businesses that can benefit from the firm’s extensive in-house capability and expertise in transition, integration and operations.

“This is a great opportunity to acquire a business with an impressive record for delivering innovative solutions to customers around the world,” said Brian Wall, the partner at Platinum Equity who led the team pursuing the acquisition. “The ISS business has a strong management team with the right vision for leading the company into the future. We share their commitment to product development and customer service and are committed to helping the business realize its full potential.”

Wall said Platinum Equity’s experience managing complex transitions from corporate parent companies will benefit employees, customers and other partners.

“Our operations group will work hand-in-hand with the management team to ensure a seamless transition while allowing the organization to stay focused on delivering world class imaging products and solutions,” said Wall. “We are proud to have forged a unique divestiture solution in partnership with Kodak that serves the best interests of everyone involved.” "

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Yes, what was Kodak's sensor division was sold|bought, and is still in operation, and has announced new products. Whether they will still be labeled Kodak, I don't know. But they're not going away. The buyers of the division likely didn't spend their money to shut down the operation.
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samsungian = Chicken Little


really idiotic speculation like this just irks me to no end. yep Ricoh spent that money to shutter a camera company for a medium format sensor they could just go buy from the manufacturer (who though sold is still making and developing sensors)



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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
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really idiotic speculation like this just irks me to no end. yep Ricoh spent that money to shutter a camera company for a medium format sensor they could just go buy from the manufacturer (who though sold is still making and developing sensors)
Yes, I think we already have a winner for the worst "Pentax is doomed" comment of the year! Or maybe Samsungian just forgot a smiley?
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QuoteOriginally posted by gazonk Quote
Yes, I think we already have a winner for the worst "Pentax is doomed" comment of the year! Or maybe Samsungian just forgot a smiley?
Agree. I just wonder if such of the charts FUD action is just a personal opinion (with or without a missing smiley) or... whatever. But all that doesn't matter at all: 12.21.12
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Why would Ricoh buy all of Pentax to put a sensor which isn't even Pentax's into an archiving unit... why wouldn't they buy the sensors from Platinum Equities and make their own processors or buy them from Pentax.. I'm guessing they wanted a lot more from Pentax than just the 645D guts.
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Medium format tech doesn't mean current 645D medium format sensor
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Medium format tech doesn't mean current 645D medium format sensor
no it doesn't but buying the company to get a bit of tech that could be licensed for less then scrapping the rest seems highly unlikely
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12.21.12 - Is that when my K-5's extended warranty expires?

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K-r & K-5 in France ...

Bonjour,

Just some "FYI" from France here ... spoke to my local camera store/chain ("Phox") and they have received no information concerning the discontinuation of the K-r or the K-5.

Walked across the street to the "FNAC" store and got the same response ... although they will be putting the K-5 "on sale" as of this Wednesday (the French after X-mas sales officially start then). By the way, my FNAC store had both a K-r and a K-5 on their display shelves ... finally some market presence, although quite late for the K-5!

Allez salut, J Frog
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