Mr. Kitazawa slated to announce Pentax upcoming bodies in Dec 19'th

ogl · 12-17-2011, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Sounds interesting... any chance you could translate the blog for us?

What about the FF and 645D mirorless?
Aren't those terms part of the article?

As I understand - no 645D mirrorless - it's just a guess. As for FF EVIL - it could be real.

**Fontan** · 12-17-2011, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

Sounds interesting... any chance you could translate the blog for us?

What about the FF and 645D mirorless?
Aren't those terms part of the article?

The first half of the article talks about the book he wrote with 2 others on Q. He says it is indeed a small camera, but it is packed with "macho" features often found in high end model. He says it is easier said than done to take good pictures with Q if you are to venture out of auto mode. That's why he wrote the book.

The second part of the article talks about the up coming issue of this magazine. Of the 8 people he interviewed, mr kitazawa was the most attention grabbing of all. They do intend to come out with FF mirrorless, and they are pondering about mirrorless 645d. In the end, mr tanaka talks about how Pentax never shyed away from having multiiple mounts in their line up, making him believe that Pentax going into FF arena this way is along the line of company tradition.

He thinks Pentax is better off under Ricoh.

This is by far the most reliable info you guys have had so far for sure.

jsherman999 · 12-17-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by Fontan

This is by far the most reliable info you guys have had so far for sure.

Understatement of the year ^^

What sensor, though. I'm kinda wondering how this could mean anything other than a pending or finalized deal with Sony Semiconductor. Great things could come to Pentaxians from that, beyond mirrorless.

**Fontan** · 12-17-2011, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by jsherman999

Understatement of the year ^^

What sensor, though. I'm kinda wondering how this could mean anything other than a pending or finalized deal with Sony Semiconductor. Great things could come to Pentaxians from that, beyond mirrorless.

Nothing about the sensors was mentioned. Perhaps nothing needs to be mentioned at all, as Sony got this sector of the market pretty much cornered at the moment. I don't see Pentax going back to Samsung, or to go to Fuji. As you said, it will be a sony sensor . . . .

**Clinton** · 12-17-2011, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Well a mirrorless full-frame is still a full-frame, right?

Wonder how they'll pull that off with the k mount, though.

If they dont, they are suggesting a change of systems. If that is the case, I cant see any reason I would change to this one. :P

calculator01 · 12-17-2011, 10:04 AM

EVIL FF? No thanks.

**Clinton** · 12-17-2011, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Well a mirrorless full-frame is still a full-frame, right?

Wonder how they'll pull that off with the k mount, though.

Similarly, would the mirrorless 645D not have a 645d mount?

Clavius · 12-17-2011, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Adam

Well a mirrorless full-frame is still a full-frame, right?

Wonder how they'll pull that off with the k mount, though.

Yep it's still a mirrorless... A sucky one, cuz they can't do that without dumping K-mount.

LFLee · 12-17-2011, 10:13 AM

Hm.... kind of disappointed.

But if Pentax have mirrorless FF in the body of Leica-like or Pentax K1000-like, then will be interested.

No matter what, ANY FF is a good start!!!

VladimirYo · 12-17-2011, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by lflee

any ff is a good start!!!

+100500

Winder · 12-17-2011, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by JohnBee

My guess is that the K-3 will be a 24MP body. But I'm not sure how exciting that will be for K-5 owners(more resolution mainly). And so as a precursor to adding excitement, I think the FF mirorless will be the big ticket item next year. Not to mention that Pentax/Ricoh will likely be the first company to deliver it.

But what would really kick ass(I think) is if Pentax would put out an APS-C and FF that would yet again become the camera to beat for the next two years

With Sony/Nikon/Pentax all using the same sensor I think Pentax is going to have to do more with the K-3 than just put in the new sensor. The support technologies will have to be improved as well. A new 21-point AF with smaller more accurate points. An improved SR that activates faster. 2 SDXC card slots. Larger OVF with better magnification to work better with MF lenses. I think there are several things Pentax could do to make the K-3 attractive with the 24MP sensor. I skipped the K-5 mainly because of the support technologies. Coming from the K-7 the 24MP sensor would be a big step up in both resolution and performance, but it will depend on the support technologies. I'm not going to buy another camera with a golf ball sized center AF point.

I think a Pentax FF EVIL with high quality glass is exactly what Pentax needs right now. An EVIL MF could be the size of the K-7 and with a could of good lenses it could be an awesome system.

Adam · 12-17-2011, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Clinton

If they dont, they are suggesting a change of systems. If that is the case, I cant see any reason I would change to this one. :P

Pentax isn't discontinuing the k-mount, that's for sure. That's would be like shooting yourself in the foot.

K1D27H · 12-17-2011, 10:43 AM

Mirrorless Full Frame? Uh, no. Just no. A company should grow but going against PENTAprism refleX is a bit too bold for me.

Cambo · 12-17-2011, 10:50 AM

let's hope it's a FF Rangefinder Leica killer - with a GREAT viewfinder. That would be something Pentax could do really, really well, and finally a camera to match the limiteds, something we've been waiting for since the film days.

And Hybrid Electronic Viewfinders aren't all bad - look through a Fuji sometime. Fantastic bloody things!

Cheers,
Cameron

eurostar · 12-17-2011, 10:53 AM

Originally posted by bobell69

While I find this very interesting and innovative, I am still looking to see what they are planning with respect to the replacement of the KR and the K5. Also what are their plans with respect to the current lens lineup?

Well, if the level of commitment to mirrorless of Pentax is so high to present a full frame one, it would be easy to predict that K-5 and K-r could be the last reflex cameras from Pentax.

12-17-2011, 09:21 AM	#17
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by JohnBee Sounds interesting... any chance you could translate the blog for us? What about the FF and 645D mirorless? Aren't those terms part of the article? The first half of the article talks about the book he wrote with 2 others on Q. He says it is indeed a small camera, but it is packed with "macho" features often found in high end model. He says it is easier said than done to take good pictures with Q if you are to venture out of auto mode. That's why he wrote the book. The second part of the article talks about the up coming issue of this magazine. Of the 8 people he interviewed, mr kitazawa was the most attention grabbing of all. They do intend to come out with FF mirrorless, and they are pondering about mirrorless 645d. In the end, mr tanaka talks about how Pentax never shyed away from having multiiple mounts in their line up, making him believe that Pentax going into FF arena this way is along the line of company tradition. He thinks Pentax is better off under Ricoh. This is by far the most reliable info you guys have had so far for sure. Last edited by Fontan; 12-17-2011 at 09:26 AM.

12-17-2011, 09:28 AM	#18
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	Originally posted by Fontan This is by far the most reliable info you guys have had so far for sure. Understatement of the year ^^ What sensor, though. I'm kinda wondering how this could mean anything other than a pending or finalized deal with Sony Semiconductor. Great things could come to Pentaxians from that, beyond mirrorless. Last edited by jsherman999; 12-17-2011 at 09:36 AM.

12-17-2011, 10:36 AM	#27
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,594	Originally posted by Clinton If they dont, they are suggesting a change of systems. If that is the case, I cant see any reason I would change to this one. :P Pentax isn't discontinuing the k-mount, that's for sure. That's would be like shooting yourself in the foot. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

12-17-2011, 10:50 AM	#29
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	Wow.... let's hope it's a FF Rangefinder Leica killer - with a GREAT viewfinder. That would be something Pentax could do really, really well, and finally a camera to match the limiteds, something we've been waiting for since the film days. And Hybrid Electronic Viewfinders aren't all bad - look through a Fuji sometime. Fantastic bloody things! Cheers, Cameron

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12-17-2011, 09:17 AM	#16
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by JohnBee Sounds interesting... any chance you could translate the blog for us? What about the FF and 645D mirorless? Aren't those terms part of the article? As I understand - no 645D mirrorless - it's just a guess. As for FF EVIL - it could be real.

12-17-2011, 09:40 AM	#19
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by jsherman999 Understatement of the year ^^ What sensor, though. I'm kinda wondering how this could mean anything other than a pending or finalized deal with Sony Semiconductor. Great things could come to Pentaxians from that, beyond mirrorless. Nothing about the sensors was mentioned. Perhaps nothing needs to be mentioned at all, as Sony got this sector of the market pretty much cornered at the moment. I don't see Pentax going back to Samsung, or to go to Fuji. As you said, it will be a sony sensor . . . .

12-17-2011, 10:01 AM	#20
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by Adam Well a mirrorless full-frame is still a full-frame, right? Wonder how they'll pull that off with the k mount, though. If they dont, they are suggesting a change of systems. If that is the case, I cant see any reason I would change to this one. :P

12-17-2011, 10:04 AM	#21
calculator01 Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 817	EVIL FF? No thanks.

12-17-2011, 10:05 AM	#22
Clinton Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,910	Originally posted by Adam Well a mirrorless full-frame is still a full-frame, right? Wonder how they'll pull that off with the k mount, though. Similarly, would the mirrorless 645D not have a 645d mount?

12-17-2011, 10:10 AM	#23
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Adam Well a mirrorless full-frame is still a full-frame, right? Wonder how they'll pull that off with the k mount, though. Yep it's still a mirrorless... A sucky one, cuz they can't do that without dumping K-mount.

12-17-2011, 10:13 AM	#24
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	Hm.... kind of disappointed. But if Pentax have mirrorless FF in the body of Leica-like or Pentax K1000-like, then will be interested. No matter what, ANY FF is a good start!!!

12-17-2011, 10:26 AM	#25
VladimirYo Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 290	Originally posted by lflee any ff is a good start!!! +100500

12-17-2011, 10:33 AM	#26
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	Originally posted by JohnBee My guess is that the K-3 will be a 24MP body. But I'm not sure how exciting that will be for K-5 owners(more resolution mainly). And so as a precursor to adding excitement, I think the FF mirorless will be the big ticket item next year. Not to mention that Pentax/Ricoh will likely be the first company to deliver it. But what would really kick ass(I think) is if Pentax would put out an APS-C and FF that would yet again become the camera to beat for the next two years With Sony/Nikon/Pentax all using the same sensor I think Pentax is going to have to do more with the K-3 than just put in the new sensor. The support technologies will have to be improved as well. A new 21-point AF with smaller more accurate points. An improved SR that activates faster. 2 SDXC card slots. Larger OVF with better magnification to work better with MF lenses. I think there are several things Pentax could do to make the K-3 attractive with the 24MP sensor. I skipped the K-5 mainly because of the support technologies. Coming from the K-7 the 24MP sensor would be a big step up in both resolution and performance, but it will depend on the support technologies. I'm not going to buy another camera with a golf ball sized center AF point. I think a Pentax FF EVIL with high quality glass is exactly what Pentax needs right now. An EVIL MF could be the size of the K-7 and with a could of good lenses it could be an awesome system.

12-17-2011, 10:43 AM	#28
K1D27H Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Nakhon Pathom, Thailand Photos: Gallery Posts: 109	Mirrorless Full Frame? Uh, no. Just no. A company should grow but going against PENTAprism refleX is a bit too bold for me.

12-17-2011, 10:53 AM	#30
eurostar Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albareto, Italy Photos: Gallery Posts: 819	Originally posted by bobell69 While I find this very interesting and innovative, I am still looking to see what they are planning with respect to the replacement of the KR and the K5. Also what are their plans with respect to the current lens lineup? Well, if the level of commitment to mirrorless of Pentax is so high to present a full frame one, it would be easy to predict that K-5 and K-r could be the last reflex cameras from Pentax.