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01-11-2012, 07:37 AM   #196
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Totally agree with above, its all about positive messages.
Also there is the P&S range which should have had new models announced which is definitly what this show is all about whether they are Ricoh or Pentax badged.
To be honest it may be wise to wait till 4th Feb and/or CP+ as the limelight is squarely on the Fuji for what I believe.
In terms of the stand at CES why not get a little bit creative with the space? Emphasis on the compact go anywhere nature of Pentax cameras. Flood the area with K5s, one with every current lens with shoot and try. Big award reproductions everywhere. Full size photos from a 645D, price comparision of lenses and bodies against "the leading competitor".
Comeon! It is the worlds biggest electronic show AND this year it is also PMA, its cheap advertising once you are there!!!
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OK .... rant over!

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Well, here's my two cents plain. I am an amateur, and am very unlikely to ever be more than that. I hope that I am getting to be a better amateur, but that's the best I can hope to be, or even want to be. I have two Pentax DSLRs, a K20D and a K10D. Both take excellent photos when I pay attention to what I am doing. I have a decent range of lenses for an amateur, I even have several Tamron Adaptalls to play with when I want to try and get fancy. So truthfully, what would I buy? I don't need to spend $2K+ for a better camera, the ones that I have are already better than I am. So what do I want from Pentax?

1) Stay in buisness. Produce quality products at a price that people will want to buy them at.

2) Appropriate support for products that you have already sold; appreciate the people who have bought and used your products and provide friendly, effective, and appropriate Customer Service to them.

3) Innovate where the innovation actually changes or moves a product ahead. No "me too" items, please. Reclaim the niche that you had for so many years.

4) Tempt me with your new ideas, I may well not buy them because as it stands, I'm a pretty happy camper. But I'll bet you that someone else will buy them if they are really good ideas.....

End of rant.

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01-11-2012, 08:23 AM   #198
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Rather interesting situation....

K-r must had the replacement on September, 2011 - 1 year cycle
K-5 must had the replacement on November-December, 2011 - 1.5 year cycle


K-r is discontinued officially (see japanese pentax site)
K-5 is almost discontinued (or discontinued non-official)


I don't remember such situation before - no any new DSLR announcement, but old cameras are discontinued.
K-r's replacement delay is 3 month. K-5 is almost 2 month.

Today is January, 11, 2012. No any good rumors, no any news...CES is opened tomorrow...


Only Pentax Q and Pentax 645D are in production....

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01-11-2012, 09:15 AM   #199
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My worry is that Pentax must be losing customers and goodwill with so little to say about themselves. You can't carry on like this for long or you fade beyond the point of return. Retailers and third-party outfits aren't likely to be very interested in a manufacturer which can't deliver a solid line of products. It's all rather like thinking that if you stare hard enough at a corpse it may start to twitch. It's not as if Ricoh have really had "only" three months to work out what to do with Pentax. They've had years to work out what to do with a DSLR marque long before they actually acquired one, and probably an inside view of Pentax for longer than three months anyway. All very odd.

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indeed, good points! Someone in a German Pentaxforum has, due to his job, some insights into pentax and said there would be number of new, very interesting lenses. But nothing more detailed, (business) as usual....
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IMHO it also tells a lot about how they think of the American market. Maybe Pentax France is there just to teach Pentax USA some well-needed marketing lessons.

(Pentax France even is a shirt sponsor of a premier league soccer club in France).
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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
They won't get rid of the K-mount, that's for sure. All I'm going to say
whooo, second time you wrote that! This may turn into a "conspiracy theory" drama with you as the main villain
Be carefull, the forum might hunt you down Or maybe you're just trying to beat Ogl to the finish line
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QuoteOriginally posted by Sinister Quote
indeed, good points! Someone in a German Pentaxforum has, due to his job, some insights into pentax and said there would be number of new, very interesting lenses. But nothing more detailed, (business) as usual....
Ah, can you please point me to the right thread on Digitalfotonetz.de?

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Sure, 6th post on that page:
DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Pentax KB-VollFormat dSLR kommt 2012 ... mit 24 MPx
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QuoteOriginally posted by Raffwal Quote
Hey, I think I figured this out. They managed to grab a Fuji X1 Pro prototype and no wonder don't want anybody to see it!
Maybe. Except Fuji doesn't end with an X. There was a logo on the camera. And it ended with X.
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Lol has any body seen Canon and Sony's stands?

Pentax just looks irrelevant.:/

http://4.s.img-dpreview.com/files/articles/9444561455/DSC07394.jpg?v=1303
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Thank you! Quite interesting topic title
01-11-2012, 09:59 AM   #208
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NP. Indeed, the title is interesting I am hoping for the best and base my decisions on the worst scenario. Fortunately I am quite happy with my setup and there is no need to switch systems. Just recently I challenged my K5 against a 5D....
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
Rather interesting situation....

K-r must had the replacement on September, 2011 - 1 year cycle
K-5 must had the replacement on November-December, 2011 - 1.5 year cycle


K-r is discontinued officially (see japanese pentax site)
K-5 is almost discontinued (or discontinued non-official)


I don't remember such situation before - no any new DSLR announcement, but old cameras are discontinued.
K-r's replacement delay is 3 month. K-5 is almost 2 month.
Well other camera's with the 16 megapixel sensor from Sony are also hard to get. Maybe it is just having access to this sensor in quantitys is one of the problems. K-5 uses it and K-r replacement should also (probably).

On the other hand I still think that moving the productionfacility for camera's is maybe the main issue.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mel Quote
Maybe. Except Fuji doesn't end with an X. There was a logo on the camera. And it ended with X.
Don't all cameras these days end with an X? Or at least have an x in them?
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