CES time!

ogl · 01-11-2012, 08:23 AM

Rather interesting situation....

K-r must had the replacement on September, 2011 - 1 year cycle
K-5 must had the replacement on November-December, 2011 - 1.5 year cycle

K-r is discontinued officially (see japanese pentax site)
K-5 is almost discontinued

(or discontinued non-official)

I don't remember such situation before - no any new DSLR announcement, but old cameras are discontinued.
K-r's replacement delay is 3 month. K-5 is almost 2 month.

Today is January, 11, 2012. No any good rumors, no any news...CES is opened tomorrow...

Only Pentax Q and Pentax 645D are in production....

Last edited by ogl; 01-11-2012 at 08:33 AM.

mecrox · 01-11-2012, 09:15 AM

My worry is that Pentax must be losing customers and goodwill with so little to say about themselves. You can't carry on like this for long or you fade beyond the point of return. Retailers and third-party outfits aren't likely to be very interested in a manufacturer which can't deliver a solid line of products. It's all rather like thinking that if you stare hard enough at a corpse it may start to twitch. It's not as if Ricoh have really had "only" three months to work out what to do with Pentax. They've had years to work out what to do with a DSLR marque long before they actually acquired one, and probably an inside view of Pentax for longer than three months anyway. All very odd.

Sinister · 01-11-2012, 09:23 AM

indeed, good points! Someone in a German Pentaxforum has, due to his job, some insights into pentax and said there would be number of new, very interesting lenses. But nothing more detailed, (business) as usual....

Asahiflex · 01-11-2012, 09:25 AM

IMHO it also tells a lot about how they think of the American market. Maybe Pentax France is there just to teach Pentax USA some well-needed marketing lessons.

(Pentax France even is a shirt sponsor of a premier league soccer club in France).

the swede · 01-11-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Adam

They won't get rid of the K-mount, that's for sure. All I'm going to say

whooo, second time you wrote that! This may turn into a "conspiracy theory" drama with you as the main villain

Be carefull, the forum might hunt you down

Or maybe you're just trying to beat Ogl to the finish line

Asahiflex · 01-11-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Sinister

indeed, good points! Someone in a German Pentaxforum has, due to his job, some insights into pentax and said there would be number of new, very interesting lenses. But nothing more detailed, (business) as usual....

Ah, can you please point me to the right thread on Digitalfotonetz.de?

Sinister · 01-11-2012, 09:35 AM

Sure, 6th post on that page:
DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Pentax KB-VollFormat dSLR kommt 2012 ... mit 24 MPx

mel · 01-11-2012, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by Raffwal

Hey, I think I figured this out. They managed to grab a Fuji X1 Pro prototype and no wonder don't want anybody to see it!

Maybe. Except Fuji doesn't end with an X. There was a logo on the camera. And it ended with X.

userage · 01-11-2012, 09:51 AM

Lol has any body seen Canon and Sony's stands?

Pentax just looks irrelevant.:/

http://4.s.img-dpreview.com/files/articles/9444561455/DSC07394.jpg?v=1303

Asahiflex · 01-11-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by Sinister

Sure, 6th post on that page:
DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Pentax KB-VollFormat dSLR kommt 2012 ... mit 24 MPx

Thank you! Quite interesting topic title

Sinister · 01-11-2012, 09:59 AM

NP. Indeed, the title is interesting

I am hoping for the best and base my decisions on the worst scenario. Fortunately I am quite happy with my setup and there is no need to switch systems. Just recently I challenged my K5 against a 5D....

RonHendriks1966 · 01-11-2012, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Rather interesting situation....

K-r must had the replacement on September, 2011 - 1 year cycle
K-5 must had the replacement on November-December, 2011 - 1.5 year cycle

K-r is discontinued officially (see japanese pentax site)
K-5 is almost discontinued

(or discontinued non-official)

I don't remember such situation before - no any new DSLR announcement, but old cameras are discontinued.
K-r's replacement delay is 3 month. K-5 is almost 2 month.

Well other camera's with the 16 megapixel sensor from Sony are also hard to get. Maybe it is just having access to this sensor in quantitys is one of the problems. K-5 uses it and K-r replacement should also (probably).

On the other hand I still think that moving the productionfacility for camera's is maybe the main issue.

Mister Horrible · 01-11-2012, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by mel

Maybe. Except Fuji doesn't end with an X. There was a logo on the camera. And it ended with X.

Don't all cameras these days end with an X? Or at least have an x in them?

eddie1960 · 01-11-2012, 10:21 AM

the sensors i think has been the big delay on a lot of fronts. Aside from the D4 (which is still a couple of months off) Nikon has announced virtually nothing. Sony has been quiet and the new product they did announce is very hard to get.)
sure there are other Sensors out there, but in all likelihood they have been developing products based on projected sensors from Sony. you can't just say once something is developed (or close to) oops i think i'll grab a different sensor and slap it in the same space

Raffwal · 01-11-2012, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by Sinister

Sure, 6th post on that page:
DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Pentax KB-VollFormat dSLR kommt 2012 ... mit 24 MPx

Zackspeed used to post here too. I believe he works for some retailer who also sells Pentax.

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01-11-2012, 08:23 AM	#196
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Rather interesting situation.... K-r must had the replacement on September, 2011 - 1 year cycle K-5 must had the replacement on November-December, 2011 - 1.5 year cycle K-r is discontinued officially (see japanese pentax site) K-5 is almost discontinued (or discontinued non-official) I don't remember such situation before - no any new DSLR announcement, but old cameras are discontinued. K-r's replacement delay is 3 month. K-5 is almost 2 month. Today is January, 11, 2012. No any good rumors, no any news...CES is opened tomorrow... Only Pentax Q and Pentax 645D are in production.... Last edited by ogl; 01-11-2012 at 08:33 AM.

01-11-2012, 09:15 AM	#197
mecrox Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxford, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,375	My worry is that Pentax must be losing customers and goodwill with so little to say about themselves. You can't carry on like this for long or you fade beyond the point of return. Retailers and third-party outfits aren't likely to be very interested in a manufacturer which can't deliver a solid line of products. It's all rather like thinking that if you stare hard enough at a corpse it may start to twitch. It's not as if Ricoh have really had "only" three months to work out what to do with Pentax. They've had years to work out what to do with a DSLR marque long before they actually acquired one, and probably an inside view of Pentax for longer than three months anyway. All very odd.

01-11-2012, 09:23 AM	#198
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	indeed, good points! Someone in a German Pentaxforum has, due to his job, some insights into pentax and said there would be number of new, very interesting lenses. But nothing more detailed, (business) as usual....

01-11-2012, 09:25 AM	#199
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	IMHO it also tells a lot about how they think of the American market. Maybe Pentax France is there just to teach Pentax USA some well-needed marketing lessons. (Pentax France even is a shirt sponsor of a premier league soccer club in France).

01-11-2012, 09:26 AM	#200
the swede Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,310	Originally posted by Adam They won't get rid of the K-mount, that's for sure. All I'm going to say whooo, second time you wrote that! This may turn into a "conspiracy theory" drama with you as the main villain Be carefull, the forum might hunt you down Or maybe you're just trying to beat Ogl to the finish line

01-11-2012, 09:26 AM	#201
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by Sinister indeed, good points! Someone in a German Pentaxforum has, due to his job, some insights into pentax and said there would be number of new, very interesting lenses. But nothing more detailed, (business) as usual.... Ah, can you please point me to the right thread on Digitalfotonetz.de?

01-11-2012, 09:35 AM	#202
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	Sure, 6th post on that page: DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Pentax KB-VollFormat dSLR kommt 2012 ... mit 24 MPx

01-11-2012, 09:49 AM	#203
mel Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Virginia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,531	Originally posted by Raffwal Hey, I think I figured this out. They managed to grab a Fuji X1 Pro prototype and no wonder don't want anybody to see it! Maybe. Except Fuji doesn't end with an X. There was a logo on the camera. And it ended with X.

01-11-2012, 09:51 AM	#204
userage Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 198	Lol has any body seen Canon and Sony's stands? Pentax just looks irrelevant.:/ http://4.s.img-dpreview.com/files/articles/9444561455/DSC07394.jpg?v=1303

01-11-2012, 09:55 AM	#205
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by Sinister Sure, 6th post on that page: DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Pentax KB-VollFormat dSLR kommt 2012 ... mit 24 MPx Thank you! Quite interesting topic title

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01-11-2012, 09:59 AM	#206
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	NP. Indeed, the title is interesting I am hoping for the best and base my decisions on the worst scenario. Fortunately I am quite happy with my setup and there is no need to switch systems. Just recently I challenged my K5 against a 5D....

01-11-2012, 10:05 AM	#207
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by ogl Rather interesting situation.... K-r must had the replacement on September, 2011 - 1 year cycle K-5 must had the replacement on November-December, 2011 - 1.5 year cycle K-r is discontinued officially (see japanese pentax site) K-5 is almost discontinued (or discontinued non-official) I don't remember such situation before - no any new DSLR announcement, but old cameras are discontinued. K-r's replacement delay is 3 month. K-5 is almost 2 month. Well other camera's with the 16 megapixel sensor from Sony are also hard to get. Maybe it is just having access to this sensor in quantitys is one of the problems. K-5 uses it and K-r replacement should also (probably). On the other hand I still think that moving the productionfacility for camera's is maybe the main issue.

01-11-2012, 10:14 AM	#208
Mister Horrible Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 100	Originally posted by mel Maybe. Except Fuji doesn't end with an X. There was a logo on the camera. And it ended with X. Don't all cameras these days end with an X? Or at least have an x in them?

01-11-2012, 10:21 AM	#209
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	the sensors i think has been the big delay on a lot of fronts. Aside from the D4 (which is still a couple of months off) Nikon has announced virtually nothing. Sony has been quiet and the new product they did announce is very hard to get.) sure there are other Sensors out there, but in all likelihood they have been developing products based on projected sensors from Sony. you can't just say once something is developed (or close to) oops i think i'll grab a different sensor and slap it in the same space

01-11-2012, 10:23 AM	#210
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879	Originally posted by Sinister Sure, 6th post on that page: DigitalFotoNetz.de :: Thema anzeigen - Pentax KB-VollFormat dSLR kommt 2012 ... mit 24 MPx Zackspeed used to post here too. I believe he works for some retailer who also sells Pentax.