Originally posted by eddie1960 first off 2 dslrs as the 645D is AFAIK still being made (which you've ignored in both posts BTW
Second 3 months from the takeover is very little time to impact any production plans.
Nikon also has had virtually nothing new either nor a DSLR roadmap but apparently that is OK
I agree it is frustrating if you are looking to buy right now, but unless you are in the market for an entry level body you just buy the K5 and move on, it's a good camera. If it's lenses well they are still there to buy
Do I expect the world to show up on a platter 3 months into a merged company nope.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a CP+ announcement (or even a world Pentax day one since major announcements by anyone are less tied to shows now)
If the roadmap is not final why show it.
Prototypes are rare at electronics shows (and frequently don't even make it to production) but apparently there was a mystery one at the Pentax booth at CES (likely to show staff and senior buyers for chains/big retailers) - If anything I see it as possibly the next announcement (probably the long rumoured second apsc mirrorless)
IF you can't wait and have to have something new then buy into another system and keep or sell off the Pentax gear. It is after all just a means to an end, the photo is not the product of the camera but the person using it. a new camera won't instantly make you a better photographer.
True, I forgot about the 645, but realistically that may as well be a separate planet from the perspective of a K mount user. You seem to have forgotten that Nikon dropped the D4, and pretty much have soft released the D800. And the simple fact is, Pentax isn't Nikon.
And yes, my Nikon link was bad, but I could have pulled the real dirt from Thom Hogan's site. The point stands, it's not as if other manufacturers don't release quasi-official news far in advance of the product release.
"If the roadmap is not final why show it." Because it better lets customers understand what your products will be in a sea of comparable offerings? I don't understand how eventually announcing a product when there are already 5 on the market helps you retain your customer base. I don't understand how announcing a unique offering doesn't help freeze the purchases of your competitor's products and potentially poach customers. I don't see why getting feedback before you've made a million of them hurts you. I don't see being worried about other manufactureres poaching the concept, since if it's successfully that will get done anyway. Therefore I don't see the downside of getting it out there as a concept as soon as it's a product you're pretty sure you're going to build.
I just don't buy the 3 months excuse. People are acting like Ricoh went out on a bender and found Pentax in it's pocket the next morning. To suggest that Ricoh did not have a strategy in place before the takeover is either ludicrous or makes Ricoh a not particularly well run company, neither of which will I accept as true. And all I'm saying is if, after x number of months of prep, and 3 months of full control, you have nothing to announce, then you're tap dancing for time, not dropping hints about stuff that's actually anywhere near pipeline. I'll make you a friendly wager that they won't announce a K mount GRX module at CP+ (the point of my original post in this thread); the loser can come here and proclaim that he was wrong.
As you're likely aware, from the Fuji threads in the off brand forum, I'm in the market for a MILC. I'd like to see a K mount camera, but I've danced variations of this dance before, for years here on News and Rumors; always ready to be announced in a few months. If I'm wrong, great, just don't think I am.
And with that, I'm done. Anyone who feels the need to tell me what a fool/traitor I am, please feel free to PM me and we can have it out there.