New K-01 mirrorless camera coming

ElJamoquio · 01-30-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by parsons

exactly, - as i posted a few pages ago.

they would have to have to move the contacts if they are planning to recess lenses very deep inside the camera.

Why couldn't a lens be recessed into the body with the contacts remaining where they are?

ogl · 01-30-2012, 09:48 AM

Pentax Russia just got press release - the body is in three basic colours...

Said " the camera is unlike something else..."

Absolutely Different Body

The one part of press release contains the interview with designer...

Brangdon · 01-30-2012, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Aku Ankka

But what if an adapter in included with every camera, and when attached to the camera, it doesn't look or feel like and adapter, but like a solid part of the camera, and there is no loss of functionality?

Some of us question whether that can be done for a reasonable cost. Also, the new mount would presumably require new lenses and mean no new K-mount lenses. So it seems like you've gone to a lot of trouble to court existing Pentax users, without really making them happy.

eddie1960 · 01-30-2012, 09:55 AM

Originally posted by ogl

Pentax Russia just got press release - the body is in three basic colours...

Said " the camera is unlike something else..."

Absolutely Different Body

The one part of press release contains the interview with designer...

but is there a picture

ogl · 01-30-2012, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by eddie1960

but is there a picture

a lot of....very big too

**Rondec** · 01-30-2012, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Aku Ankka

But what if an adapter in included with every camera, and when attached to the camera, it doesn't look or feel like and adapter, but like a solid part of the camera, and there is no loss of functionality?

I don't believe this is possible. You could probably have an adapter that would not have auto focus capability and just transmitted lens data for one hundred-ish dollars, but add more functionality and price goes up.

Sony's NEX to alpha adapter sells for significantly above 300 dollars a unit. How would Pentax be able to sell something similar for less?

I just don't think the market for old lenses is that great for most people (except for forum goers like us).

DaveBlack · 01-30-2012, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by dgaies

The 18-135 also uses an in-body motor only and has no screw drive.

The DA*60-250 is only SDM and has no screw drive.

dgaies · 01-30-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by DaveBlack

The DA*60-250 is only SDM and has no screw drive.

The 60-250 has both SDM and screw-drive.

thibs · 01-30-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by ogl

a lot of....very big too

Can't wait

ogl · 01-30-2012, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by dgaies

The 60-250 has both SDM and screw-drive.

+1 yes...

ogl · 01-30-2012, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Can't wait

just January, 31 and february, 1 - need to wait a bit...

falconeye · 01-30-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

You could probably have an adapter that would not have auto focus capability and just transmitted lens data for one hundred-ish dollars, but add more functionality and price goes up.

Sony's NEX to alpha adapter sells for significantly above 300 dollars a unit.

I stand on no side of the fence, but again ... this is not true.

A (basically) 1:1 adapter is nothing but a macro extension tube or a TC converter w/o glass. E.g., the Tamron SDM/screw drive 1.4x adapter sold for about $100 and most of the price is for the optics embeded. A K mount "registration distance adapter" with full functionality would sell for well below $100.

The Sony adapter has an entire phase AF module, half transparent mirror, processor and maybe even a focus motor (I don't know if A mount has support for an in-body focus motor, the E mount certainly has not). It's an entirely different beast with a very specific target user group in mind.

falconeye · 01-30-2012, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by ogl

just January, 31 and february, 1 - need to wait a bit...

It's January, 31 in Tokyo now

Go

**monochrome** · 01-30-2012, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by ogl

just January, 31 and february, 1 - need to wait a bit...

Originally posted by falconeye

It's January, 31 in Tokyo now

Go

If announcements are made this week what will be left for CP+ ? (????????)

dgaies · 01-30-2012, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

The Sony adapter has an entire phase AF module, half transparent mirror, processor and maybe even a focus motor (I don't know if A mount has support for an in-body focus motor, the E mount certainly has not). It's an entirely different beast with a very specific target user group in mind.

FWIW, there is a motor in the LA-EA2 (the adapter that allow the NEX bodies to AF with A-mount lenses). I've used one with a NEX-5N and both the Sony 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 (both screw-driven lenses) and it works pretty well.

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01-30-2012, 09:37 AM	#1201
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by parsons exactly, - as i posted a few pages ago. they would have to have to move the contacts if they are planning to recess lenses very deep inside the camera. Why couldn't a lens be recessed into the body with the contacts remaining where they are?

01-30-2012, 09:48 AM	#1202
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Pentax Russia just got press release - the body is in three basic colours... Said " the camera is unlike something else..." Absolutely Different Body The one part of press release contains the interview with designer...

01-30-2012, 09:53 AM	#1203
Brangdon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nottingham Posts: 172	Originally posted by Aku Ankka But what if an adapter in included with every camera, and when attached to the camera, it doesn't look or feel like and adapter, but like a solid part of the camera, and there is no loss of functionality? Some of us question whether that can be done for a reasonable cost. Also, the new mount would presumably require new lenses and mean no new K-mount lenses. So it seems like you've gone to a lot of trouble to court existing Pentax users, without really making them happy.

01-30-2012, 09:55 AM	#1204
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by ogl Pentax Russia just got press release - the body is in three basic colours... Said " the camera is unlike something else..." Absolutely Different Body The one part of press release contains the interview with designer... but is there a picture

01-30-2012, 09:56 AM	#1205
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by eddie1960 but is there a picture a lot of....very big too

01-30-2012, 10:00 AM	#1206
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by Aku Ankka But what if an adapter in included with every camera, and when attached to the camera, it doesn't look or feel like and adapter, but like a solid part of the camera, and there is no loss of functionality? I don't believe this is possible. You could probably have an adapter that would not have auto focus capability and just transmitted lens data for one hundred-ish dollars, but add more functionality and price goes up. Sony's NEX to alpha adapter sells for significantly above 300 dollars a unit. How would Pentax be able to sell something similar for less? I just don't think the market for old lenses is that great for most people (except for forum goers like us).

01-30-2012, 10:12 AM	#1207
DaveBlack Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 441	Originally posted by dgaies The 18-135 also uses an in-body motor only and has no screw drive. The DA*60-250 is only SDM and has no screw drive.

01-30-2012, 10:13 AM	#1208
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by DaveBlack The DA*60-250 is only SDM and has no screw drive. The 60-250 has both SDM and screw-drive.

01-30-2012, 10:13 AM	#1209
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by ogl a lot of....very big too Can't wait

01-30-2012, 10:32 AM	#1210
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by dgaies The 60-250 has both SDM and screw-drive. +1 yes...

01-30-2012, 10:33 AM	#1211
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by thibs Can't wait just January, 31 and february, 1 - need to wait a bit...

01-30-2012, 10:34 AM	#1212
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Rondec You could probably have an adapter that would not have auto focus capability and just transmitted lens data for one hundred-ish dollars, but add more functionality and price goes up. Sony's NEX to alpha adapter sells for significantly above 300 dollars a unit. I stand on no side of the fence, but again ... this is not true. A (basically) 1:1 adapter is nothing but a macro extension tube or a TC converter w/o glass. E.g., the Tamron SDM/screw drive 1.4x adapter sold for about $100 and most of the price is for the optics embeded. A K mount "registration distance adapter" with full functionality would sell for well below $100. The Sony adapter has an entire phase AF module, half transparent mirror, processor and maybe even a focus motor (I don't know if A mount has support for an in-body focus motor, the E mount certainly has not). It's an entirely different beast with a very specific target user group in mind.

01-30-2012, 10:37 AM	#1213
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by ogl just January, 31 and february, 1 - need to wait a bit... It's January, 31 in Tokyo now Go

01-30-2012, 10:39 AM	#1214
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by ogl just January, 31 and february, 1 - need to wait a bit... Originally posted by falconeye It's January, 31 in Tokyo now Go If announcements are made this week what will be left for CP+ ? (????????)

01-30-2012, 10:43 AM	#1215
dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by falconeye The Sony adapter has an entire phase AF module, half transparent mirror, processor and maybe even a focus motor (I don't know if A mount has support for an in-body focus motor, the E mount certainly has not). It's an entirely different beast with a very specific target user group in mind. FWIW, there is a motor in the LA-EA2 (the adapter that allow the NEX bodies to AF with A-mount lenses). I've used one with a NEX-5N and both the Sony 85/1.4 and 135/1.8 (both screw-driven lenses) and it works pretty well.