New K-01 mirrorless camera coming

Chex · 01-30-2012, 07:22 PM

I doubt it will, but I think having an available battery/grip for it would be a good idea, since EVF's are generally hard on batteries.. But I'm guessing they will worry about overall size and not make one. The K-5's screen is pretty decent, if they threw it on an articulating/rotating arm it could be a pretty decent setup. The rumors state 3 lenses including the 40.. so if size has anything to do with the decisions I'm guessing the other two will be the DA 21 and the DA 70.. I would hope they do the DA 15 and the DA 70 instead.

hcarvalhoalves · 01-30-2012, 07:23 PM

I'm having a blast looking at all the "mockups" and speculations

Some people already stated that it looks like a big Optio. Considering the designer involved, the "K-" lettering on the front, and the shutter release style seems on that small leak, it's probably going to look modern with a retro twist.

The fact it doesn't feature an EVF makes me believe they maybe are going to release the EVF as a hot-shoe accessory, which in fact makes all the sense, since you could upgrade just the EVF instead of the whole body. I really doubt a company with photography DNA like PENTAX would release a K-mount camera limited to a back LCD only.

Laurentiu Cristofor · 01-30-2012, 07:55 PM

Whatever it is, if it's bad, it will sort itself out in a year or so when Ricoh/Pentax will get an idea of where they want to go and they'll fix their technology to get there.

What worries me about this camera is that it's using the K-5 sensor, so if it will also use K-5 LiveView, it's going to be pretty catastrophic. It doesn't matter whether they'll have an EVF or not if they can't refresh information on it fast enough. Can they manage to make LiveView as smooth as on other mirrorless cameras when they couldn't do that for K-7, K-x, K-5, and K-r? If they can do that, then this will be a significant achievement in itself, regardless of how this camera turns out otherwise.

Docrwm · 01-30-2012, 07:57 PM

Has this been posted yet? Can't find it but there is so much here.

Last edited by Docrwm; 05-06-2013 at 08:11 PM.

ogl · 01-30-2012, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

A line drawing of what it should look like according to photo rumors

Photo Rumors

Comments Ogl??

i have doubts it will say Pentax and Ricoh for one

. the waist level LCD idea is interesting though (except on bright sunny days

Paint/Photoshop games from Russian Penta-Forum. Nothing serious. Game. Fantasies.

Smolk · 01-30-2012, 08:02 PM

Pentax should start making faster lenses, too. It is a disappointment that they have got out of that habit. But the greatest disappointment is depth.
At 5.9cm the thickness is 1.6cm more than the Fuji X-pro1's body at 4.3. The K-x body is 6.75 but 0.75 has to do with the grip and flash, remove both and you end up with this. It's not much more portable. What is the gain?
I would have liked to see a Mamiya 6 system where the lens could collapse into the body. The size of the K-x is why I once bought the Plaubel Makina. At 5.65cm including lens it did a great job and I could carry it everywhere. The K-x does not make it into my bag for work.

For the K-mount, I would rather have had a camera with a larger DOF. Not another small but not quite pocketable APS-C camera.
Final grunt: after one of the most ugly cameras ever, the Q, I hope this body does not add up to a new reputation. But at least there was design involved, so there is room for hope.

Greyser · 01-30-2012, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Smolk

But the greatest disappointment is depth. At 5.9cm the thickness is 1.6cm more than the Fuji X-pro1's body at 4.3. The K-x body is 6.75 but 0.75 has to do with the grip and flash, remove both and you end up with this. It's not much more portable. What is the gain?

It's all speculations, of course. But, if the recessed in the body lens concept is true, the overall body depth is very comparable with all slim mirror-less players when kit lenses are attached.

Last edited by Greyser; 01-30-2012 at 08:57 PM.

bobmaxja · 01-30-2012, 08:26 PM

Yes it was posted around 4PM

Greyser · 01-30-2012, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Paint/Photoshop games from Russian Penta-Forum. Nothing serious. Game. Fantasies.

...and fun! the Russian Penta-Club is discussing the consequences of getting prosecuted for some K-01 design advances and speculations how the K-01 would look in reality. The Gulag theme is still a reality

BTW: they all peacefully fell a sleep now, I guess.

ogl · 01-30-2012, 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Greyser

...and fun! the Russian Penta-Club is discussing the consequences of getting prosecuted for some K-01 design advances and speculations how the K-01 would look in reality. The Gulag theme is still a reality

BTW: they all peacefully fell a sleep now, I guess.

GULAG? They mocked at Sony R-1's idea....

ewalk · 01-30-2012, 08:57 PM

Has anyone even talked about price? Is it too much to ask for around ~$500 for body only? Haha, I seriously doubt it though.

ogl · 01-30-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by ewalk

Has anyone even talked about price? Is it too much to ask for around ~$500 for body only? Haha, I seriously doubt it though.

The price is the same as K-r kit price on November, 2010.

Greyser · 01-30-2012, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by ogl

GULAG? They mocked at Sony R-1's idea....

It was a joke, LOL. But still it's fun to read the site.

ogl · 01-30-2012, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by Greyser

It was a joke, LOL. But still it's fun to read the site.

Every big country has their own Gulag.

Greyser · 01-30-2012, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by ogl

Every big country has their own Gulag.

Not even big ones...

01-30-2012, 08:31 PM	#1269
Greyser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by ogl Paint/Photoshop games from Russian Penta-Forum. Nothing serious. Game. Fantasies. ...and fun! the Russian Penta-Club is discussing the consequences of getting prosecuted for some K-01 design advances and speculations how the K-01 would look in reality. The Gulag theme is still a reality BTW: they all peacefully fell a sleep now, I guess. Last edited by Greyser; 01-30-2012 at 08:55 PM.

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01-30-2012, 07:22 PM	#1261
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	I doubt it will, but I think having an available battery/grip for it would be a good idea, since EVF's are generally hard on batteries.. But I'm guessing they will worry about overall size and not make one. The K-5's screen is pretty decent, if they threw it on an articulating/rotating arm it could be a pretty decent setup. The rumors state 3 lenses including the 40.. so if size has anything to do with the decisions I'm guessing the other two will be the DA 21 and the DA 70.. I would hope they do the DA 15 and the DA 70 instead.

01-30-2012, 07:23 PM	#1262
hcarvalhoalves Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,019	I'm having a blast looking at all the "mockups" and speculations Some people already stated that it looks like a big Optio. Considering the designer involved, the "K-" lettering on the front, and the shutter release style seems on that small leak, it's probably going to look modern with a retro twist. The fact it doesn't feature an EVF makes me believe they maybe are going to release the EVF as a hot-shoe accessory, which in fact makes all the sense, since you could upgrade just the EVF instead of the whole body. I really doubt a company with photography DNA like PENTAX would release a K-mount camera limited to a back LCD only.

01-30-2012, 07:55 PM	#1263
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	Whatever it is, if it's bad, it will sort itself out in a year or so when Ricoh/Pentax will get an idea of where they want to go and they'll fix their technology to get there. What worries me about this camera is that it's using the K-5 sensor, so if it will also use K-5 LiveView, it's going to be pretty catastrophic. It doesn't matter whether they'll have an EVF or not if they can't refresh information on it fast enough. Can they manage to make LiveView as smooth as on other mirrorless cameras when they couldn't do that for K-7, K-x, K-5, and K-r? If they can do that, then this will be a significant achievement in itself, regardless of how this camera turns out otherwise.

01-30-2012, 07:57 PM	#1264
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Has this been posted yet? Can't find it but there is so much here. Last edited by Docrwm; 05-06-2013 at 08:11 PM.

01-30-2012, 07:58 PM	#1265
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by eddie1960 A line drawing of what it should look like according to photo rumors Photo Rumors Comments Ogl?? i have doubts it will say Pentax and Ricoh for one . the waist level LCD idea is interesting though (except on bright sunny days Paint/Photoshop games from Russian Penta-Forum. Nothing serious. Game. Fantasies.

01-30-2012, 08:02 PM	#1266
Smolk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Eerbeek Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,857	Pentax should start making faster lenses, too. It is a disappointment that they have got out of that habit. But the greatest disappointment is depth. At 5.9cm the thickness is 1.6cm more than the Fuji X-pro1's body at 4.3. The K-x body is 6.75 but 0.75 has to do with the grip and flash, remove both and you end up with this. It's not much more portable. What is the gain? I would have liked to see a Mamiya 6 system where the lens could collapse into the body. The size of the K-x is why I once bought the Plaubel Makina. At 5.65cm including lens it did a great job and I could carry it everywhere. The K-x does not make it into my bag for work. For the K-mount, I would rather have had a camera with a larger DOF. Not another small but not quite pocketable APS-C camera. Final grunt: after one of the most ugly cameras ever, the Q, I hope this body does not add up to a new reputation. But at least there was design involved, so there is room for hope.

01-30-2012, 08:20 PM	#1267
Greyser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by Smolk But the greatest disappointment is depth. At 5.9cm the thickness is 1.6cm more than the Fuji X-pro1's body at 4.3. The K-x body is 6.75 but 0.75 has to do with the grip and flash, remove both and you end up with this. It's not much more portable. What is the gain? It's all speculations, of course. But, if the recessed in the body lens concept is true, the overall body depth is very comparable with all slim mirror-less players when kit lenses are attached. Last edited by Greyser; 01-30-2012 at 08:57 PM.

01-30-2012, 08:26 PM	#1268
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	Yes it was posted around 4PM

01-30-2012, 08:57 PM	#1270
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Greyser ...and fun! the Russian Penta-Club is discussing the consequences of getting prosecuted for some K-01 design advances and speculations how the K-01 would look in reality. The Gulag theme is still a reality BTW: they all peacefully fell a sleep now, I guess. GULAG? They mocked at Sony R-1's idea....

01-30-2012, 08:57 PM	#1271
ewalk Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 316	Has anyone even talked about price? Is it too much to ask for around ~$500 for body only? Haha, I seriously doubt it though.

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01-30-2012, 09:01 PM	#1272
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by ewalk Has anyone even talked about price? Is it too much to ask for around ~$500 for body only? Haha, I seriously doubt it though. The price is the same as K-r kit price on November, 2010.

01-30-2012, 09:08 PM	#1273
Greyser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by ogl GULAG? They mocked at Sony R-1's idea.... It was a joke, LOL. But still it's fun to read the site.

01-30-2012, 09:15 PM	#1274
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Greyser It was a joke, LOL. But still it's fun to read the site. Every big country has their own Gulag.

01-30-2012, 11:56 PM	#1275
Greyser Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Los Angeles, California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,150	Originally posted by ogl Every big country has their own Gulag. Not even big ones...