New K-01 mirrorless camera coming

ogl · 01-31-2012, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Greyser

Not even big ones...

Yes. Of course...

falconeye · 01-31-2012, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by parsons

that was a joke I'm pretty sure.

of course it was ...

dlacouture · 01-31-2012, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

What worries me about this camera is that it's using the K-5 sensor, so if it will also use K-5 LiveView, it's going to be pretty catastrophic. It doesn't matter whether they'll have an EVF or not if they can't refresh information on it fast enough. Can they manage to make LiveView as smooth as on other mirrorless cameras when they couldn't do that for K-7, K-x, K-5, and K-r? If they can do that, then this will be a significant achievement in itself, regardless of how this camera turns out otherwise.

It's not really the sensor, but the software running it, IMO...
I bought a Samsung NX100 (150€, a bargain!), and, while using the same sensor as the K7, its liveview is miles ahead!!! Refresh rate is nearly instantaneous, and focus is quite quick, even in low-light.
So, I don't know how pentax could have butchered their sensors' live feed so much, when I see what another company can squeeze from the same thing...

asw66 · 01-31-2012, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by hcarvalhoalves

... it's probably going to look modern with a retro twist.

My guess is that it won't be another retro design, I think it will be aggressively modern. If the Fujis and Olympuses are BMW Mini Coopers, this will be a Citroen DS3.

thibs · 01-31-2012, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by dlacouture

It's not really the sensor, but the software running it, IMO...
I bought a Samsung NX100 (150€, a bargain!), and, while using the same sensor as the K7, its liveview is miles ahead!!! Refresh rate is nearly instantaneous, and focus is quite quick, even in low-light.
So, I don't know how pentax could have butchered their sensors' live feed so much, when I see what another company can squeeze from the same thing...

I thought nx100 sensor was based on the k7 sensor.
We dunno the changes. If it is exactly the same though...

gazonk · 01-31-2012, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by thibs

I thought nx100 sensor was based on the k7 sensor.
We dunno the changes. If it is exactly the same though...

I think I read (but I may be wrong) something about readout being faster on the nx100 sensor than on the K-7 sensor.

hcarvalhoalves · 01-31-2012, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by asw66

My guess is that it won't be another retro design, I think it will be aggressively modern. If the Fujis and Olympuses are BMW Mini Coopers, this will be a Citroen DS3.

The designer in charge of the camera seems to like anachronic designs. I don't think it will be too futuristic (e.g., NEX-like) since those designs get outdated quickly. I bet it will incorporate more Pentax DNA like a K1000, but with natural forms (e.g., rounded-squared) and modern features (more modern colors, textures and finish). I'm pretty sure it will be a pretty different camera design, though.

parsons · 01-31-2012, 05:45 AM

How many post will this reach before the release then?
I'm guessing 90 pages.
No doubt it will be more

bobmaxja · 01-31-2012, 05:50 AM

I dont know how we can get at 90 pages befores February 2nd. I see on my PC we are only at 26 pages

parsons · 01-31-2012, 05:58 AM

on mine its saying 86... must just be a difference in the number of posts per page.

DaveBlack · 01-31-2012, 05:59 AM

I have 86 pages. I guess we need a few more partial camera body photos or sketchs to discuss. Then there is the lens roadmap that is supposed to come out at the same time. Then there is how the XS lens and what makes it different. There is a lot to discuss with very little facts to base our wild discussions.

Dave

pxpaulx · 01-31-2012, 06:00 AM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

I dont know how we can get at 90 pages befores February 2nd. I see on my PC we are only at 26 pages

The default is 15 posts/page, which puts it currently at 86...not that it is pertinent to this thread

eddie1960 · 01-31-2012, 06:04 AM

i think the earlier guess of 1500 posts is a good one, this is post 1289 so only 111 to go

parsons · 01-31-2012, 06:06 AM

so that would make it 100 pages

parsons · 01-31-2012, 06:17 AM - **1 Like**

by that image i would suppose that there won't be an adapter.
Its too deep in my opinion. i would have preferred something thinner. its not very much thinner than my K-r.

using a mirror and putting the sensor where the pentaprism would normally be would have been a nice option. doesn't look like they took that approach though. would that still qualify it as a mirrorless?

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01-31-2012, 12:16 AM	#1276
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	Originally posted by Greyser Not even big ones... Yes. Of course...

01-31-2012, 01:38 AM	#1277
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by parsons that was a joke I'm pretty sure. of course it was ...

01-31-2012, 02:17 AM	#1278
dlacouture Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Var, South of France Photos: Albums Posts: 1,074	Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor What worries me about this camera is that it's using the K-5 sensor, so if it will also use K-5 LiveView, it's going to be pretty catastrophic. It doesn't matter whether they'll have an EVF or not if they can't refresh information on it fast enough. Can they manage to make LiveView as smooth as on other mirrorless cameras when they couldn't do that for K-7, K-x, K-5, and K-r? If they can do that, then this will be a significant achievement in itself, regardless of how this camera turns out otherwise. It's not really the sensor, but the software running it, IMO... I bought a Samsung NX100 (150€, a bargain!), and, while using the same sensor as the K7, its liveview is miles ahead!!! Refresh rate is nearly instantaneous, and focus is quite quick, even in low-light. So, I don't know how pentax could have butchered their sensors' live feed so much, when I see what another company can squeeze from the same thing...

01-31-2012, 03:07 AM	#1279
asw66 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 347	Originally posted by hcarvalhoalves ... it's probably going to look modern with a retro twist. My guess is that it won't be another retro design, I think it will be aggressively modern. If the Fujis and Olympuses are BMW Mini Coopers, this will be a Citroen DS3.

01-31-2012, 04:12 AM	#1280
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by dlacouture It's not really the sensor, but the software running it, IMO... I bought a Samsung NX100 (150€, a bargain!), and, while using the same sensor as the K7, its liveview is miles ahead!!! Refresh rate is nearly instantaneous, and focus is quite quick, even in low-light. So, I don't know how pentax could have butchered their sensors' live feed so much, when I see what another company can squeeze from the same thing... I thought nx100 sensor was based on the k7 sensor. We dunno the changes. If it is exactly the same though...

01-31-2012, 04:38 AM	#1281
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by thibs I thought nx100 sensor was based on the k7 sensor. We dunno the changes. If it is exactly the same though... I think I read (but I may be wrong) something about readout being faster on the nx100 sensor than on the K-7 sensor.

01-31-2012, 04:41 AM	#1282
hcarvalhoalves Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,019	Originally posted by asw66 My guess is that it won't be another retro design, I think it will be aggressively modern. If the Fujis and Olympuses are BMW Mini Coopers, this will be a Citroen DS3. The designer in charge of the camera seems to like anachronic designs. I don't think it will be too futuristic (e.g., NEX-like) since those designs get outdated quickly. I bet it will incorporate more Pentax DNA like a K1000, but with natural forms (e.g., rounded-squared) and modern features (more modern colors, textures and finish). I'm pretty sure it will be a pretty different camera design, though.

01-31-2012, 05:45 AM	#1283
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	How many post will this reach before the release then? I'm guessing 90 pages. No doubt it will be more

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bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	I dont know how we can get at 90 pages befores February 2nd. I see on my PC we are only at 26 pages

01-31-2012, 05:58 AM	#1285
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	on mine its saying 86... must just be a difference in the number of posts per page.

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01-31-2012, 05:59 AM	#1286
DaveBlack Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 441	I have 86 pages. I guess we need a few more partial camera body photos or sketchs to discuss. Then there is the lens roadmap that is supposed to come out at the same time. Then there is how the XS lens and what makes it different. There is a lot to discuss with very little facts to base our wild discussions. Dave

01-31-2012, 06:00 AM	#1287
pxpaulx Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 2,867	Originally posted by bobmaxja I dont know how we can get at 90 pages befores February 2nd. I see on my PC we are only at 26 pages The default is 15 posts/page, which puts it currently at 86...not that it is pertinent to this thread

01-31-2012, 06:04 AM	#1288
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	i think the earlier guess of 1500 posts is a good one, this is post 1289 so only 111 to go

01-31-2012, 06:06 AM	#1289
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	so that would make it 100 pages

01-31-2012, 06:17 AM - 1 Like	#1290
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	by that image i would suppose that there won't be an adapter. Its too deep in my opinion. i would have preferred something thinner. its not very much thinner than my K-r. using a mirror and putting the sensor where the pentaprism would normally be would have been a nice option. doesn't look like they took that approach though. would that still qualify it as a mirrorless?