New K-01 mirrorless camera coming

yusuf · 02-02-2012, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by wjjstu

Looking at that list, it's clear that the K-01 isn't a mirrorless camera but a K-5 without a mirror.

Nope, something more seems be stripped down, max shutter speed, Tav mode.

Emacs · 02-02-2012, 12:40 AM

It will be the new samsung: cameras that no one want to buy with already traditional Pentax crappy quality.

pingflood · 02-02-2012, 12:41 AM

Well, I have to admit I like the looks of the camera -- at first it looked a little weird, but it has this brutalist design going which is pretty cool.

However, I am scratching my head over just what it is. Sounds like we are getting a DSLR minus the mirror, viewfinder and phase-detect AF, while retaining the registration distance guaranteeing it to be fairly thick. So what exactly is gained over the already-compact Pentax DSLRs?

darrenleow · 02-02-2012, 12:42 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by ionutmar

[*]Mirorrless body design is compatible with PENTAX K-mount lenses.

including the FA* 250-600!

Emacs · 02-02-2012, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by pingflood

So what exactly is gained over the already-compact Pentax DSLRs?

Nothing, of course

yusuf · 02-02-2012, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by Emacs

Nothing, of course

better & faster contrast AF and k-5 fixes??? No mirror so certainly those mirror flops have gone, now we just need to look forward to better AF

solar1 · 02-02-2012, 12:52 AM

K-01 Will do focus peaking

- that's definitely new.

EDIT: by the way I got 2 trojans/virus in quarantine and still scanning now after opening the link to prweb... had to restart and do a virus scan - really slowed the computer.

To be safe, recommend not opening the PRweblink!

Last edited by solar1; 02-02-2012 at 01:12 AM.

pinholecam · 02-02-2012, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by pingflood

Well, I have to admit I like the looks of the camera -- at first it looked a little weird, but it has this brutalist design going which is pretty cool.

However, I am scratching my head over just what it is. Sounds like we are getting a DSLR minus the mirror, viewfinder and phase-detect AF, while retaining the registration distance guaranteeing it to be fairly thick. So what exactly is gained over the already-compact Pentax DSLRs?

1. Even smaller camera

2. Better with MF lenses with all the MF aids avaliable on an LCD
3. WYSIWYG focus accuracy
4. No flopping mirror since there is no mirror (I don't have a clue of this problem though; no on in the rather large Singapore user base has this problem)

To me; #1,2,3 are the main reasons I'd want one.

The CDAF on K5 is not slow, though its quirky with it zoom in and such. So I'd expect the K-01 to be better. In fact I think the Q AF is pretty decent after the firmware upgrade, so perhaps thats a gauge.

ionutmar · 02-02-2012, 12:55 AM

plus, maybe better video and h.264 compression (60 FPS at 720p) if you take video

dylan73 · 02-02-2012, 12:58 AM

Will I be able to use this with the old /edited/ K85/1.8 lens?

gazonk · 02-02-2012, 12:58 AM

Originally posted by pinholecam

4. No flopping mirror since there is no mirror (I don't have a clue of this problem though; no on in the rather large Singapore user base has this problem)

I've heard that mirror shake can be a problem on Pentax 67, so the next thing to wait for will be the mirrorless Pentax 67-01

pingflood · 02-02-2012, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by pinholecam

1. Even smaller camera

2. Better with MF lenses with all the MF aids avaliable on an LCD
3. WYSIWYG focus accuracy
4. No flopping mirror since there is no mirror (I don't have a clue of this problem though; no on in the rather large Singapore user base has this problem)

To me; #1,2,3 are the main reasons I'd want one.

The CDAF on K5 is not slow, though its quirky with it zoom in and such. So I'd expect the K-01 to be better. In fact I think the Q AF is pretty decent after the firmware upgrade, so perhaps thats a gauge.

Sure, but 2,3 and 4 could be solved with a minor update to the existing Liveview functionality on a DSLR. So the only thing that remains is "smaller", but the DSLRs are already very compact and you still have to retain the required flange-sensor distance so it can't get much smaller than them.

Don't want to sound all negative here since I like the design and I like Pentax glass (and will be buying a mirrorless this year, though not sure what). But I don't really "get" it.

Chex · 02-02-2012, 12:59 AM

So the unknown improvements will be in burst shooting, frame buffer size and speed etc.. HDR mode capabilities, Time laps functionality.. other functions and modes maybe?? IR shooting mode or something would be cool twist. I guess we'll have to see how much image noise/ISO noise is improved between the processing and the removal of the mirror assembly.

bennygoerlach · 02-02-2012, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by dylan73

Will I be able to use this with the old K85/1.4 lens?

Cant see why not, its been stated that the camera has full manual mode, probably just effect the metering as with all the recent DSLR's (stop down).

Laurentiu Cristofor · 02-02-2012, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by Emacs

It will be the new samsung: cameras that no one want to buy with already traditional Pentax crappy quality.

Samsung doesn't deserve this comparison.

02-02-2012, 12:52 AM	#1642
solar1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 565	K-01 Does Focus Peaking! K-01 Will do focus peaking - that's definitely new. EDIT: by the way I got 2 trojans/virus in quarantine and still scanning now after opening the link to prweb... had to restart and do a virus scan - really slowed the computer. To be safe, recommend not opening the PRweblink! Last edited by solar1; 02-02-2012 at 01:12 AM.

02-02-2012, 12:58 AM	#1645
dylan73 New Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 17	Will I be able to use this with the old /edited/ K85/1.8 lens? Last edited by dylan73; 02-02-2012 at 01:07 AM.

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02-02-2012, 12:38 AM	#1636
yusuf Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palo Alto, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,497	Originally posted by wjjstu Looking at that list, it's clear that the K-01 isn't a mirrorless camera but a K-5 without a mirror. Nope, something more seems be stripped down, max shutter speed, Tav mode.

02-02-2012, 12:40 AM	#1637
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	It will be the new samsung: cameras that no one want to buy with already traditional Pentax crappy quality.

02-02-2012, 12:41 AM	#1638
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	Well, I have to admit I like the looks of the camera -- at first it looked a little weird, but it has this brutalist design going which is pretty cool. However, I am scratching my head over just what it is. Sounds like we are getting a DSLR minus the mirror, viewfinder and phase-detect AF, while retaining the registration distance guaranteeing it to be fairly thick. So what exactly is gained over the already-compact Pentax DSLRs?

02-02-2012, 12:42 AM - 2 Likes	#1639
darrenleow Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Photos: Gallery Posts: 541	Originally posted by ionutmar []Mirorrless body design is compatible with PENTAX K-mount lenses. including the FA 250-600!

02-02-2012, 12:43 AM	#1640
Emacs Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Moscow Posts: 1,223	Originally posted by pingflood So what exactly is gained over the already-compact Pentax DSLRs? Nothing, of course

02-02-2012, 12:46 AM	#1641
yusuf Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Palo Alto, CA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,497	Originally posted by Emacs Nothing, of course better & faster contrast AF and k-5 fixes??? No mirror so certainly those mirror flops have gone, now we just need to look forward to better AF

02-02-2012, 12:53 AM	#1643
pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,709	Originally posted by pingflood Well, I have to admit I like the looks of the camera -- at first it looked a little weird, but it has this brutalist design going which is pretty cool. However, I am scratching my head over just what it is. Sounds like we are getting a DSLR minus the mirror, viewfinder and phase-detect AF, while retaining the registration distance guaranteeing it to be fairly thick. So what exactly is gained over the already-compact Pentax DSLRs? 1. Even smaller camera 2. Better with MF lenses with all the MF aids avaliable on an LCD 3. WYSIWYG focus accuracy 4. No flopping mirror since there is no mirror (I don't have a clue of this problem though; no on in the rather large Singapore user base has this problem) To me; #1,2,3 are the main reasons I'd want one. The CDAF on K5 is not slow, though its quirky with it zoom in and such. So I'd expect the K-01 to be better. In fact I think the Q AF is pretty decent after the firmware upgrade, so perhaps thats a gauge.

02-02-2012, 12:55 AM	#1644
ionutmar Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Photos: Gallery Posts: 43	plus, maybe better video and h.264 compression (60 FPS at 720p) if you take video

02-02-2012, 12:58 AM	#1646
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by pinholecam 4. No flopping mirror since there is no mirror (I don't have a clue of this problem though; no on in the rather large Singapore user base has this problem) I've heard that mirror shake can be a problem on Pentax 67, so the next thing to wait for will be the mirrorless Pentax 67-01

02-02-2012, 12:59 AM	#1647
pingflood Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Borås, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,169	Originally posted by pinholecam 1. Even smaller camera 2. Better with MF lenses with all the MF aids avaliable on an LCD 3. WYSIWYG focus accuracy 4. No flopping mirror since there is no mirror (I don't have a clue of this problem though; no on in the rather large Singapore user base has this problem) To me; #1,2,3 are the main reasons I'd want one. The CDAF on K5 is not slow, though its quirky with it zoom in and such. So I'd expect the K-01 to be better. In fact I think the Q AF is pretty decent after the firmware upgrade, so perhaps thats a gauge. Sure, but 2,3 and 4 could be solved with a minor update to the existing Liveview functionality on a DSLR. So the only thing that remains is "smaller", but the DSLRs are already very compact and you still have to retain the required flange-sensor distance so it can't get much smaller than them. Don't want to sound all negative here since I like the design and I like Pentax glass (and will be buying a mirrorless this year, though not sure what). But I don't really "get" it.

02-02-2012, 12:59 AM	#1648
Chex Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: The 'Stoke, British Columbia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,678	So the unknown improvements will be in burst shooting, frame buffer size and speed etc.. HDR mode capabilities, Time laps functionality.. other functions and modes maybe?? IR shooting mode or something would be cool twist. I guess we'll have to see how much image noise/ISO noise is improved between the processing and the removal of the mirror assembly.

02-02-2012, 01:05 AM	#1649
bennygoerlach Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 32	Originally posted by dylan73 Will I be able to use this with the old K85/1.4 lens? Cant see why not, its been stated that the camera has full manual mode, probably just effect the metering as with all the recent DSLR's (stop down).

02-02-2012, 01:06 AM	#1650
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	Originally posted by Emacs It will be the new samsung: cameras that no one want to buy with already traditional Pentax crappy quality. Samsung doesn't deserve this comparison.