Log on February 2nd at 13 CET Re: K-01

sjwaldron · 01-31-2012, 09:30 PM - **1 Like**

I didn't see the GIF...

Originally posted by falconeye

Nobody wants to use a camera w/o EVF as a camcorder. To record the occasional video, ok, but not as a serious video camera. It would have been the EVF giving second life to K mount as a video system.

Then why are the Canon 5D MKII and 7D so popular for video? I think the question would be better as "Why would most people need an EVF for video when they have an LCD screen and HDMI out?"

Originally posted by Adam

What's the deciding factor that makes a lot of people go for Pentax? That's all I'm saying until Thursday. And for the record, the news post is being written as I speak

- Ergonomics
- Weather resistance
- Shake Reduction
- Metal casing and frame

Back in the day the pentaprism viewfinder was a deciding factor when I bought the *ist DS over the Canon Digital Rebel...

Now, the K-7 and K-5 were the cameras that kept me using Pentax.

Last edited by sjwaldron; 01-31-2012 at 09:42 PM.

Adam · 01-31-2012, 09:40 PM

I wonder if the Q's OVF will work with the K-01. Same hotshoe, after all, and same corresponding FOV as the kit lens. Then again, who wants to pay $250 for a pair of lenses and a piece of casing?

arpaagent · 01-31-2012, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by Adam

I wonder if the Q's OVF will work with the K-01. Same hotshoe, after all, and same corresponding FOV as the kit lens. Then again, who wants to pay $250 for a pair of lenses and a piece of casing?

...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens.

Azimuth · 01-31-2012, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by arpaagent

...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens.

Pretty sure Adam has already stated the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-5.

acrollet · 01-31-2012, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Adam

I wonder if the Q's OVF will work with the K-01. Same hotshoe, after all, and same corresponding FOV as the kit lens.

the Q standard prime is 47.5mm equiv - are you hinting that the k-01 sensor is larger than aps-c? (since 40mm equiv is 60mm w/ aps-c) aps-h? bah Thursday can't come soon enough ;p

acrollet · 01-31-2012, 09:51 PM

ha, others already had the same thought I see...

causey · 01-31-2012, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by arpaagent

...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens.

Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

cfraz · 01-31-2012, 09:53 PM

Originally posted by Adam

You will see on the 2nd why I said that

If you ask me, the K-01 is fair competition with the Fuji X-pro.

C'mon. If this is true, then your oblique references to the K-01 being without viewfinder cannot be true. Which is it, Adam?

sjwaldron · 01-31-2012, 09:54 PM

Seeing the 40mm mentioned as the standard kit lens did bring me to scratch my head. The APS-C 60mm is not an ideal normal lens. It's possible he is talking about another lens though, presuming there will be a few "kit" lenses upon release. That way, the 40mm will be the portrait lens instead of the normal lens.

Azimuth · 01-31-2012, 09:55 PM

The plot thickens! New products are a lot of fun.

causey · 01-31-2012, 09:59 PM

FF MILC without integrated VF, but which works with Q's OVF? Cheap enough, it would destroy the new Fuji--and many other existent cameras.

Adam · 01-31-2012, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by arpaagent

...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens.

It will be off then...I was thinking for a moment that the 43mm equivalence was to the APS-C format, but you're right, of course it isn't.

I don't see it being too hard to come up with a DIY viewfinder, though, especially for primes.

Azimuth · 01-31-2012, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by causey

FF MILC without integrated VF, but which works with Q's OVF? Cheap enough, it would destroy the new Fuji--and many other existent cameras.

Dunno, I don't really want to pay $250 for a pair of lenses and a piece of casing...

sjwaldron · 01-31-2012, 10:01 PM

47.5 for the Q...

FA 31mm * 1.52 = 47.12

Kit lens and the 31mm are not two words that go together, but at least it's the same equivalent.

So the user could probably use the Q finder with the 31mm.

Tonto · 01-31-2012, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by RXrenesis8

So..... Is it this?

Not K, but everything else fits the bill... sort of?

Now that is just cruel!

That thing is gorgeous!

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Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,593 Original Poster	Originally posted by arpaagent ...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens. It will be off then...I was thinking for a moment that the 43mm equivalence was to the APS-C format, but you're right, of course it isn't. I don't see it being too hard to come up with a DIY viewfinder, though, especially for primes. Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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01-31-2012, 09:30 PM - 1 Like	#121
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	I didn't see the GIF... Originally posted by falconeye Nobody wants to use a camera w/o EVF as a camcorder. To record the occasional video, ok, but not as a serious video camera. It would have been the EVF giving second life to K mount as a video system. Then why are the Canon 5D MKII and 7D so popular for video? I think the question would be better as "Why would most people need an EVF for video when they have an LCD screen and HDMI out?" Originally posted by Adam What's the deciding factor that makes a lot of people go for Pentax? That's all I'm saying until Thursday. And for the record, the news post is being written as I speak - Ergonomics - Weather resistance - Shake Reduction - Metal casing and frame Back in the day the pentaprism viewfinder was a deciding factor when I bought the ist DS over the Canon Digital Rebel... Now, the K-7 and K-5 were the cameras that kept me using Pentax. Last edited by sjwaldron; 01-31-2012 at 09:42 PM.*

01-31-2012, 09:48 PM	#123
arpaagent Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Raleigh, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 803	Originally posted by Adam I wonder if the Q's OVF will work with the K-01. Same hotshoe, after all, and same corresponding FOV as the kit lens. Then again, who wants to pay $250 for a pair of lenses and a piece of casing? ...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens.

01-31-2012, 09:50 PM	#124
Azimuth Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 26	Originally posted by arpaagent ...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens. Pretty sure Adam has already stated the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-5.

01-31-2012, 09:51 PM	#125
acrollet Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 351	Originally posted by Adam I wonder if the Q's OVF will work with the K-01. Same hotshoe, after all, and same corresponding FOV as the kit lens. the Q standard prime is 47.5mm equiv - are you hinting that the k-01 sensor is larger than aps-c? (since 40mm equiv is 60mm w/ aps-c) aps-h? bah Thursday can't come soon enough ;p

01-31-2012, 09:51 PM	#126
acrollet Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 351	ha, others already had the same thought I see...

01-31-2012, 09:52 PM	#127
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	Originally posted by arpaagent ...same corresponding FOV? K-01 is 40mm, Q kit lens (8mm) is 43mm equivalent in FF terms. So what you are saying is that K-01 is FF, because 40mm on APS-C is really like 60mm FF FOV. So the K-01 MUST be FF to be equivalent in FOV to the Q's kit lens. Whaaaaaaaaaaat?

01-31-2012, 09:53 PM	#128
cfraz Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon, USA Posts: 521	Originally posted by Adam You will see on the 2nd why I said that If you ask me, the K-01 is fair competition with the Fuji X-pro. C'mon. If this is true, then your oblique references to the K-01 being without viewfinder cannot be true. Which is it, Adam?

01-31-2012, 09:54 PM	#129
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	Seeing the 40mm mentioned as the standard kit lens did bring me to scratch my head. The APS-C 60mm is not an ideal normal lens. It's possible he is talking about another lens though, presuming there will be a few "kit" lenses upon release. That way, the 40mm will be the portrait lens instead of the normal lens.

01-31-2012, 09:55 PM	#130
Azimuth Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 26	The plot thickens! New products are a lot of fun.

01-31-2012, 09:59 PM	#131
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	FF MILC without integrated VF, but which works with Q's OVF? Cheap enough, it would destroy the new Fuji--and many other existent cameras.

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01-31-2012, 10:00 PM	#133
Azimuth Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 26	Originally posted by causey FF MILC without integrated VF, but which works with Q's OVF? Cheap enough, it would destroy the new Fuji--and many other existent cameras. Dunno, I don't really want to pay $250 for a pair of lenses and a piece of casing...

01-31-2012, 10:01 PM	#134
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	47.5 for the Q... FA 31mm * 1.52 = 47.12 Kit lens and the 31mm are not two words that go together, but at least it's the same equivalent. So the user could probably use the Q finder with the 31mm.

01-31-2012, 10:20 PM	#135
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	Originally posted by RXrenesis8 So..... Is it this? Not K, but everything else fits the bill... sort of? Now that is just cruel! That thing is gorgeous!