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02-04-2012, 10:40 AM   #106
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QuoteOriginally posted by Andrew Faires Quote
As the one who designed the 43mm, i'm of the mind he should never have left. Get him back and give him a raise! Also give him the creative freedom to do lenses like the 43/77mm as often as he wants.
Although I agree that those two are classics, I'm not that big fan of some of Hirakawas creations. He seem to construct lenses with a certain usage in mind making them ideal for some things like eg. the FA* 85/1.4 which is great for portraits but less so for other things.
He has apparently not designed my favourite Pentax lenses; the FA* 200/4 Macro, the 31 Limited or the FA645 120/4 Macro, so Pentax do have other talented lens designers...

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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
the FA* 200/4 Macro
They really should re-release that lens, it gets so much praise and the second hand price is just ridiculously high.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Although I agree that those two are classics, I'm not that big fan of some of Hirakawas creations. He seem to construct lenses with a certain usage in mind making them ideal for some things like eg. the FA* 85/1.4 which is great for portraits but less so for other things.
He has apparently not designed my favourite Pentax lenses; the FA* 200/4 Macro, the 31 Limited or the FA645 120/4 Macro, so Pentax do have other talented lens designers...
No doubt about the talent of the other designers. But the 43mm is the original of the limiteds, and look at where that thinking led to
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Although I agree that those two are classics, I'm not that big fan of some of Hirakawas creations. He seem to construct lenses with a certain usage in mind making them ideal for some things like eg. the FA* 85/1.4 which is great for portraits but less so for other things.
He has apparently not designed my favourite Pentax lenses; the FA* 200/4 Macro, the 31 Limited or the FA645 120/4 Macro, so Pentax do have other talented lens designers...
Wait, you criticise the FA*85 for being tooled to a specific task and then suggest the FA*200 Macro as a better candidate?

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*general cheering.*


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Yes, it seems to be a star 24-90/2.8. A very expensive lens that does not make that much sense for APS....
Actually, I'd be quite interested, if zooms were a priority: I always used a 35-105 for my 'standard zoom' on film, and right now I'm using an old 28-105, which is actually a really nice range for me, though I'd be happier if it went a little wider. Some of us really do like em a bit tighter, framingwise. And it would obviously have pretty broad appeal on full-frame.

I'd be looking at em, in different circumstances. (As it is, I'm pretty much doing the stuff I do with primes, not so much of like events and the like, where I'd go with a zoom. )
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QuoteOriginally posted by Pål Jensen Quote
Yes, it seems to be a star 24-90/2.8. A very expensive lens that does not make that much sense for APS
Where does it say f2.8? And to say it's going to be a 24-90 is wishful thinking. It looks more like a ~17 to ~80; in other words, an APS-C equivalent to the Canon 24-105 f4 L (though with a bit more reach). Very unlikely it will be f2.8.

This lens roadmap is an SLR APS-C list. It demonstrates Pentax's commitment to APS-C DSLRs. The fact (assuming it is a fact) that Pentax is rehiring lens engineers shows greater promise of a future Pentax FF than anything on this list.
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For those moaning about the absence of DFA lenses, do you really, really think Pentax should advertise such intentions months if not years before release?
Why not giving exact specs of lenses and bodies to competing companies when you're at it ?

Times are difficult. But doing so would ruin their slim chances.
What would happen if Pentax did announce a FF today? You think Canon/Nikon/Sony really give a damn? What are they going to do? Redesign their entire line-ups to handle the Pentax challenge?

Canon/Nikon/Sony are so focused on each other that they probably could even tell you what color Pentax cameras are this month. What could Pentax possible announce that would have any impact on Canon or Nikon? When you are 3 laps behind nobody is paying attention.

A FF EVIL or MF EVIL are about the only things that I can see making any waves.
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Wait, you criticise the FA*85 for being tooled to a specific task and then suggest the FA*200 Macro as a better candidate?
I'll take one of each!

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A FF EVIL or MF EVIL are about the only things that I can see making any waves.
That would be a complete disaster saleswise :ugh:
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That would be a complete disaster saleswise :ugh:
Not if done right. We are going to see them eventually. Sony will probably be the first.
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Yes, but "done right" means "put a nice, big&bright reflex viewfinder in there"
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I'll take one of each!


Me too!
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Yes, but "done right" means "put a nice, big&bright reflex viewfinder in there"
The Sony NEX-9 rumors have been circulating and after Sony announced that its NEX lenses were designed to cover a FF image circle speculation really took off. Why would Sony want to tell everyone that the NEX lenses work on a FF sensor? Because they are working on one.

Sony has a new 24MP and 36MP FF sensor being tested. The 36MP will be in the D800. I think the new 24MP will be in the A99.

Will Pentax take the leap? I really don't have an opinion one way or the other. I doubt we will see anything until 2013. They would have to rely on Sigma lenses to support they system until they could restore the company, but that is not a bad thing. Most Sigma lenses work with both APS-C and FF and many of their new lenses are of excellent quality.
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What would happen if Pentax did announce a FF today? You think Canon/Nikon/Sony really give a damn?
Sony would.

They'd be selling Pentax the FF sensor!
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A FF EVIL or MF EVIL are about the only things that I can see making any waves.
Sure, which is why Canon brought 7D nad Nikon brought D7000. Really, those don't have anything to do with K7/K5 type of cams, do they?

On a marketing PoV maybe (and I'm not even sure, an FF Dslr done right, might as well) but Nikon uses the same sensors as Pentax.
Now Ricoh has a money to burn and money to help negociation against Nikon. Will the new situation change anything? Who knows?
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