the pics of K-01

jogiba · 02-01-2012, 03:51 PM

It better have an EVF with an ugly hump like that IMHO.

kswier · 02-01-2012, 03:57 PM

I think the camera looks good, but I don't get it. To me, the only reason to go mirrorless with no viewfinder is small size. I keep looking at my K200D with a DA40, and than at this picture. They are very close to the same size. Sure, it may be better at video than any other Pentax DSLR, but there are other large sensor cameras that are good at video that come in both large and small packages. Will it be quieter than the K-5? That would be a small advantage, but not enough to make me purchase a new camera body. Is it cheap? It does not look cheap from the pictures.

My reaction to this is the same reaction to the pentax Q. It looks like a nice enough camera, but I don't get it. I don't understand what features of this camera would entice people to drop hundreds of dollars to purchase one.

Vylen · 02-01-2012, 04:04 PM - **1 Like**

Do people genuinely think it's ugly? Or did some people read the prior rumours of it being "ugly" and are just jumping on the bandwagon?

When I read the prior rumours, I held some fears about what it would look like. But, now that I've seen these images - I think it's pretty good. There's no particular item about it that seems "ugly". In the opposite direction, there are parts of the camera which seem to reflect or be homages to older designs from the looks of it.

**Pål Jensen** · 02-01-2012, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by kswier

I think the camera looks good, but I don't get it. To me, the only reason to go mirrorless with no viewfinder is small size. of this camera would entice people to drop hundreds of dollars to purchase one.

The mirrorless is targeted at high-end P&S'ers. Many of them don't know what a viewfinder is...

kenyee · 02-01-2012, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Vylen

Do people genuinely think it's ugly? Or did some people read the prior rumours of it being "ugly" and are just jumping on the bandwagon?

I set up a poll in the K-01 forum...lets see how the votes turn out....

rawr · 02-01-2012, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

The mirrorless is targeted at high-end P&S'ers. Many of them don't know what a viewfinder is...

Indeed. We've all had the experience of handing a DSLR off to someone else to take a shot, and they then try and hold it up to look at the rear-display, not the viewfinder.

Not having an EVF or OVF (or even a standard flash hot-shoe) hasn't stopped Sony from selling millions of NEX's.

Wheatfield · 02-01-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

Originally posted by Edvinas Quote Who told you that K-01 is small? K-01 isn't small. K-mount does not allow for camera to be small.

Make the body the same thickness as that adapter and tell us how deep the camera body is going to be.

Azimuth · 02-01-2012, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

The mirrorless is targeted at high-end P&S'ers. Many of them don't know what a viewfinder is...

Really? I thought it was targeted at existing Pentax users who own k-mount lens collections...

riff · 02-01-2012, 04:32 PM

I don't give a rat's hinney what it looks like, it looks fine enough, it's a tool!

How does it work, how does it feel in hand, what can it do...

jogiba · 02-01-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by rawr

Indeed. We've all had the experience of handing a DSLR off to someone else to take a shot, and they then try and hold it up to look at the rear-display, not the viewfinder.

Not having an EVF or OVF (or even a standard flash hot-shoe) hasn't stopped Sony from selling millions of NEX's.

Pentax should have cloned the NEX-7 with it's fantastic EVF & hotshoe.

Alcazar · 02-01-2012, 04:43 PM

While i agree that this camera looks ugly, have a look at the group shot with all the lenses.
Of the 3 cameras, the one on the left is much nicer i think, with the black/silver colours like on the old film cameras.

aheadfordinci · 02-01-2012, 04:47 PM

I don't know if it i too early too judge the look of the K-01 by the few pics of it that are around, but I think that while it seems to be a bold statement in frienly-lookiness, that cilinder shape at the side of the mount plays havok on the design.
It disturbs both the inherited outline of said mount and the front of the flash where the label Pentax sits.
And it is there justified only by the dial on top of it? That a questionable choice to me.

If also the flash guide light on the grip is really covered by the hand when you hold the camera, well then the design is not so neat, no matter who the designer is.

That said, I do have a mirrorless PEN already since a couple of years, without a viewfinder, and shooting with my 40 years old spotmatic through its OVF is something I really, really miss on the PEN. That the K-01 don't have one is a big let down for me.

johnmflores · 02-01-2012, 05:01 PM

Interesting that the flash articulates like a point-and-shoot or like the flash on my Panasonic GF2 instead of the more traditional two-arm pivot of dSLRs. Could that have been a space-saving decision so that they could fit something else in the hump??? EVF???

rawr · 02-01-2012, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by jogiba

Pentax should have cloned the NEX-7

That will be K-02, just like Sony went through a few NEX increments (about 4 in fact) prior to getting to the NEX7.

NEX7 (if you can find one) is also in the high-end category. I'm not sure K-01 is aimed there.

johnmflores · 02-01-2012, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by Clinton

To to start a whole round of "Your Mom" jokes, but my mom can't use my camera because of the OVF. The live view zoom in on the K-5 always distracts her, and she can't handle the OVF. She just wants it to work like her P&S. There are many people out there in this same boat.

She wouldn't ever buy a K-5, but I suspect she'd consider this one as an option.

This is fertile soil....

Your momma uses the rear LCD
Your momma uses a kit zoom
Your momma shoots JPG
Your momma uses in-camera HDR
...

02-01-2012, 04:40 PM	#115
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by rawr Indeed. We've all had the experience of handing a DSLR off to someone else to take a shot, and they then try and hold it up to look at the rear-display, not the viewfinder. Not having an EVF or OVF (or even a standard flash hot-shoe) hasn't stopped Sony from selling millions of NEX's. Pentax should have cloned the NEX-7 with it's fantastic EVF & hotshoe. Last edited by jogiba; 02-01-2012 at 04:48 PM.

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02-01-2012, 03:51 PM	#106
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	It better have an EVF with an ugly hump like that IMHO.

02-01-2012, 03:57 PM	#107
kswier Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 426	I think the camera looks good, but I don't get it. To me, the only reason to go mirrorless with no viewfinder is small size. I keep looking at my K200D with a DA40, and than at this picture. They are very close to the same size. Sure, it may be better at video than any other Pentax DSLR, but there are other large sensor cameras that are good at video that come in both large and small packages. Will it be quieter than the K-5? That would be a small advantage, but not enough to make me purchase a new camera body. Is it cheap? It does not look cheap from the pictures. My reaction to this is the same reaction to the pentax Q. It looks like a nice enough camera, but I don't get it. I don't understand what features of this camera would entice people to drop hundreds of dollars to purchase one.

02-01-2012, 04:04 PM - 1 Like	#108
Vylen Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,262	Do people genuinely think it's ugly? Or did some people read the prior rumours of it being "ugly" and are just jumping on the bandwagon? When I read the prior rumours, I held some fears about what it would look like. But, now that I've seen these images - I think it's pretty good. There's no particular item about it that seems "ugly". In the opposite direction, there are parts of the camera which seem to reflect or be homages to older designs from the looks of it.

02-01-2012, 04:06 PM	#109
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	Originally posted by kswier I think the camera looks good, but I don't get it. To me, the only reason to go mirrorless with no viewfinder is small size. of this camera would entice people to drop hundreds of dollars to purchase one. The mirrorless is targeted at high-end P&S'ers. Many of them don't know what a viewfinder is...

02-01-2012, 04:17 PM	#110
kenyee Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston, PRofMA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,026	Originally posted by Vylen Do people genuinely think it's ugly? Or did some people read the prior rumours of it being "ugly" and are just jumping on the bandwagon? I set up a poll in the K-01 forum...lets see how the votes turn out....

02-01-2012, 04:19 PM	#111
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Pål Jensen The mirrorless is targeted at high-end P&S'ers. Many of them don't know what a viewfinder is... Indeed. We've all had the experience of handing a DSLR off to someone else to take a shot, and they then try and hold it up to look at the rear-display, not the viewfinder. Not having an EVF or OVF (or even a standard flash hot-shoe) hasn't stopped Sony from selling millions of NEX's.

02-01-2012, 04:20 PM	#112
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Originally posted by jogiba Originally posted by Edvinas Quote Who told you that K-01 is small? K-01 isn't small. K-mount does not allow for camera to be small. Make the body the same thickness as that adapter and tell us how deep the camera body is going to be.

02-01-2012, 04:29 PM	#113
Azimuth Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 26	Originally posted by Pål Jensen The mirrorless is targeted at high-end P&S'ers. Many of them don't know what a viewfinder is... Really? I thought it was targeted at existing Pentax users who own k-mount lens collections...

02-01-2012, 04:32 PM	#114
riff Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,408	I don't give a rat's hinney what it looks like, it looks fine enough, it's a tool! How does it work, how does it feel in hand, what can it do...

02-01-2012, 04:43 PM	#116
Alcazar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 210	While i agree that this camera looks ugly, have a look at the group shot with all the lenses. Of the 3 cameras, the one on the left is much nicer i think, with the black/silver colours like on the old film cameras.

02-01-2012, 04:47 PM	#117
aheadfordinci Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 99	I don't know if it i too early too judge the look of the K-01 by the few pics of it that are around, but I think that while it seems to be a bold statement in frienly-lookiness, that cilinder shape at the side of the mount plays havok on the design. It disturbs both the inherited outline of said mount and the front of the flash where the label Pentax sits. And it is there justified only by the dial on top of it? That a questionable choice to me. If also the flash guide light on the grip is really covered by the hand when you hold the camera, well then the design is not so neat, no matter who the designer is. That said, I do have a mirrorless PEN already since a couple of years, without a viewfinder, and shooting with my 40 years old spotmatic through its OVF is something I really, really miss on the PEN. That the K-01 don't have one is a big let down for me.

02-01-2012, 05:01 PM	#118
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Interesting that the flash articulates like a point-and-shoot or like the flash on my Panasonic GF2 instead of the more traditional two-arm pivot of dSLRs. Could that have been a space-saving decision so that they could fit something else in the hump??? EVF???

02-01-2012, 05:04 PM	#119
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by jogiba Pentax should have cloned the NEX-7 That will be K-02, just like Sony went through a few NEX increments (about 4 in fact) prior to getting to the NEX7. NEX7 (if you can find one) is also in the high-end category. I'm not sure K-01 is aimed there.

02-01-2012, 05:08 PM	#120
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Clinton To to start a whole round of "Your Mom" jokes, but my mom can't use my camera because of the OVF. The live view zoom in on the K-5 always distracts her, and she can't handle the OVF. She just wants it to work like her P&S. There are many people out there in this same boat. She wouldn't ever buy a K-5, but I suspect she'd consider this one as an option. This is fertile soil.... Your momma uses the rear LCD Your momma uses a kit zoom Your momma shoots JPG Your momma uses in-camera HDR ...