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05-06-2012, 04:03 AM   #556
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vylen Quote
We should see it roll out later this year."
If it`s going to be DA*, IQ is probably nothing to worry about but the price will be higher then anticipated. End of the year would be fine, since I have to strech the budget
Still, I`m dying to see some official numbers regarding weight and size (and MRSP offcourse)

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DA* ??? Hmmm....
Earlier hints from Pentax indicate more in the direction of a budget lens.
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Budget lens, or just made cheaper by borrowing an optical design common to telescopes. It could be a relatively cheap DA* lens for all we know. But that would just make things interesting if that's the case.
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If Ricoh wants to play it smart marketingwise they should position it as a budget lens, just like the Canon 400mm F5.6L.
560mm with DA* optics in a relatively cheap (sub 2K) and weathersealed package would make a killer. That would make a great option for starting wildlife- and birdphotographers and serious competition for Canon, Nikon or the budget Sigma telezooms.

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2k for a lens with 100mm front diameter ... does not sound inexpensive but cheap...
560/5.6=100
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QuoteOriginally posted by zapp Quote
2k for a lens with 100mm front diameter ... does not sound inexpensive but cheap...
560/5.6=100
Too much wishful thinking from my side...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vylen Quote
Budget lens, or just made cheaper by borrowing an optical design common to telescopes. It could be a relatively cheap DA* lens for all we know. But that would just make things interesting if that's the case.
If they want to designate it DA* I hope that it's build with premium quality in mind. I figure if they are going to do something they may as well do it right. Although I think a DA* in the 400mm F4 range would be more suitable then a matching 1.4xTC could give that 560 for those that need it, with minimal loss to IQ.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Vylen Quote
So... thanks to the super moon last night, I took a photo (as many did) and posted it on the Pentax Snaps Australia Facebook page (as many also did).

I posted the comment saying: "Taken tonight with a K20D and the DA 55-300mm. When is that 560mm going to see the light of day? It'd be perfect for this sort of thing "

Pentax Snaps responded: "The DA* 560mm would have been perfect alright. We should see it roll out later this year."

So... take it as you will, either a slip of the fingers/tongue or an honest typo. But, if it was a slip, then it's got a DA* designation!
Pentax Snaps Australia's Facebook page appears to be hosted by C.R.Kennedy, the Australian Pentax distributor.

I've sent them an email referring them to the facebook post and asking when the DA*560mm is going to be released.

Be interesting to see their reply.

My gut feeling is that the new 560mm will have the DA* designation.

Bring it on !!!

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I suspect that the 560 will be more along the lines of the DA 18-135mm WR in design.

QuoteOriginally posted by Chaos_Realm Quote
If they want to designate it DA* I hope that it's build with premium quality in mind. I figure if they are going to do something they may as well do it right. Although I think a DA* in the 400mm F4 range would be more suitable then a matching 1.4xTC could give that 560 for those that need it, with minimal loss to IQ.
I agree with that idea, except make it a D AF 400/4 WR. Maybe we will get lucky and it really is a 400 with the new TC.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Chaos_Realm Quote
If they want to designate it DA* I hope that it's build with premium quality in mind. I figure if they are going to do something they may as well do it right. Although I think a DA* in the 400mm F4 range would be more suitable then a matching 1.4xTC could give that 560 for those that need it, with minimal loss to IQ.
Or a dual lens: DA* 400/4 and 560/5,6. Not a zoom, but 400/4 in short position and 560/5,6
in the long position. Remember that Leica? had a Dual or a trippel lens like
35, 50 and 70mm instead of a zoom in the 80is.
That most be easier to do than a zoom, just optimised for 400 and 560mm.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bophoto Quote
Or a dual lens: DA* 400/4 and 560/5,6. Not a zoom, but 400/4 in short position and 560/5,6
in the long position. Remember that Leica? had a Dual or a trippel lens like
35, 50 and 70mm instead of a zoom in the 80is.
That most be easier to do than a zoom, just optimised for 400 and 560mm.
Tokina had a dual lens that was available in several mounts. I think it was a 40mm/80mm.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Bophoto Quote
Or a dual lens: DA* 400/4 and 560/5,6. Not a zoom, but 400/4 in short position and 560/5,6
in the long position. Remember that Leica? had a Dual or a trippel lens like
35, 50 and 70mm instead of a zoom in the 80is.
That most be easier to do than a zoom, just optimised for 400 and 560mm.
Weren't those the "poor man's zooms" in those days?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
Weren't those the "poor man's zooms" in those days?
They were probably optically better than zooms in those days. They were generally smaller than zooms as well.
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I suspect that the 560 will be more along the lines of the DA 18-135mm WR in design.



I agree with that idea, except make it a D AF 400/4 WR. Maybe we will get lucky and it really is a 400 with the new TC.

In my experience a 400 with a TC is inferior to a 'dedicated' 500/600, even if the 400 is a 'good' lens and the 500/600 is only an 'ok' lens.

The new canon is intriguing to me, though... if the TC/light path is dedicated to a particular lens then the problem should be mitigated.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ElJamoquio Quote
In my experience a 400 with a TC is inferior to a 'dedicated' 500/600, even if the 400 is a 'good' lens and the 500/600 is only an 'ok' lens.

The new canon is intriguing to me, though... if the TC/light path is dedicated to a particular lens then the problem should be mitigated.
I am not talking about the run of the mill consumer grade TC. I am talking about some of the matched ones. For example the adaptall II SP 1.4x or the way Sigma currently does it or the way Pentax used to do it with there manual focus TC. The lens design and tc design are taken into account. That said, 560 is a weird focal length. 400 x 1.4 = 560.
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