New Lenses Announcement (K and Q mount)

Docrwm · 02-08-2012, 11:23 AM

Here is the latest response from Canon to Pentax's new product announcements!

Last edited by Docrwm; 05-06-2013 at 08:12 PM.

**jatrax** · 02-08-2012, 04:54 PM

I am delighted that Pentax is announcing new products, I don't think I'm interested in anything mentioned so far but it is certainly a great thing for Pentax.

But I do have a concern about the new XS line of lenses. if they are truly k-mount then they will fit on any k-mount camera, right? So what happens when someone mounts that rear protruding lens on their k-x or k-r? Do we have a repair on the mirror coming up? If it is designed not to mount on a camera that it would harm then it is not truly k-mount, and if it does mount on all k-mount cameras then it is not K-01 exclusive.

I am confused.

Alizarine · 02-08-2012, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by jatrax

If it is designed not to mount on a camera that it would harm then it is not truly k-mount, and if it does mount on all k-mount cameras then it is not K-01 exclusive.

Maybe that's why they designated some lenses on the K-01 as "XS" - these won't fit on normal K-mount cameras. It's like the... special line for K-0* series

Originally posted by HockeyDad

Now, if they introduce something similar to the now discontinued 18-250mm and price it right,

There's also that in the lens roadmap, though with that big a range, I don't think that would be easy for newbies to get too. But good investment, yes!

Clavius · 02-09-2012, 01:44 AM

But I thought that it was clear that the DA 40 XS will fit on any K-mount DSLR?

gazonk · 02-09-2012, 01:50 AM

Originally posted by Mareket

Also it's quite a long lens design judging by the protruding rear tube...

Yes, physically long, but most probably with a short focal length.

Erik · 02-09-2012, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

But I thought that it was clear that the DA 40 XS will fit on any K-mount DSLR?

Yes, but it looks like the upcoming, nameless wide-angle (?) XS lens probably won't.

Clavius · 02-09-2012, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by Erik

Yes, but it looks like the upcoming, nameless wide-angle (?) XS lens probably won't.

That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now.

Asahiflex · 02-09-2012, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now.

However, it's a strong sign that Pentax wants to go ahead with the K-mount. Mirrorless is the future, if you want it or not.

Edit: woohoo, my 2000th post

**7samurai** · 02-09-2012, 05:09 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now.

I believe Pentax/Ricoh is committed to k-mount. Otherwise they wouldn't have released the 560mm lense. At least that one doesn't look like it has any protrusions.

I'm thinking a higher end mirrorless is in the future to use the XS lenses.

It's also really a great way to kick-start the mirrorless series by offering the entire k-mount lens lineup until they get their XS lenses going. This is definitely a multi-pronged attack to quickly acquire market share. I also suspect the XS lenses will be mostly pancakes where it will address criticism of the thickness of the body by having thinner lenses.

This is going to be a GREAT year.

Clavius · 02-09-2012, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Mirrorless is the future, if you want it or not.

Nope: mirrorless is the past. Remember, nowadays people UPgrade from (mirrorless) point&shoots to mirrored cameras. Why take a step backwards to mirrorless, if you can shoot DSLR?!

Originally posted by Asahiflex

Edit: woohoo, my 2000th post

Congrats

**Rondec** · 02-09-2012, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

Nope: mirrorless is the past. Remember, nowadays people UPgrade from (mirrorless) point&shoots to mirrored cameras. Why take a step backwards to mirrorless, if you can shoot DSLR?!

Because entry level viewfinders suck?

gazonk · 02-09-2012, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

Because entry level viewfinders suck?

Not as much as no viewfinders.

audiobomber · 02-09-2012, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by gazonk

Not as much as no viewfinders.

Word!

Zygonyx · 02-09-2012, 06:07 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now.

Definitely not, because the "in-protuding" lenses will necessarily have to be limited in focal length, hence limited in number (for example the "leica ranges"), otherwise the "compactness" advantage falls apart.

audiobomber · 02-09-2012, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Definitely not, because the "in-protuding" lenses will necessarily have to be limited in focal lens, hence number, otherwise the "compactness" advantage falls apart.

I agree. This trick makes great sense for wide angles and wide to longer zooms. No advantage for normal and tele lenses.

02-09-2012, 03:36 AM	#128
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by Clavius That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now. However, it's a strong sign that Pentax wants to go ahead with the K-mount. Mirrorless is the future, if you want it or not. Edit: woohoo, my 2000th post Last edited by Asahiflex; 02-09-2012 at 03:58 AM.

02-09-2012, 06:07 AM	#134
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by Clavius That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now. Definitely not, because the "in-protuding" lenses will necessarily have to be limited in focal length, hence limited in number (for example the "leica ranges"), otherwise the "compactness" advantage falls apart. Last edited by Zygonyx; 02-09-2012 at 06:20 AM.

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02-08-2012, 11:23 AM	#121
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Here is the latest response from Canon to Pentax's new product announcements! Last edited by Docrwm; 05-06-2013 at 08:12 PM.

02-08-2012, 04:54 PM	#122
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	I am delighted that Pentax is announcing new products, I don't think I'm interested in anything mentioned so far but it is certainly a great thing for Pentax. But I do have a concern about the new XS line of lenses. if they are truly k-mount then they will fit on any k-mount camera, right? So what happens when someone mounts that rear protruding lens on their k-x or k-r? Do we have a repair on the mirror coming up? If it is designed not to mount on a camera that it would harm then it is not truly k-mount, and if it does mount on all k-mount cameras then it is not K-01 exclusive. I am confused.

02-08-2012, 05:42 PM	#123
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Originally posted by jatrax If it is designed not to mount on a camera that it would harm then it is not truly k-mount, and if it does mount on all k-mount cameras then it is not K-01 exclusive. Maybe that's why they designated some lenses on the K-01 as "XS" - these won't fit on normal K-mount cameras. It's like the... special line for K-0* series Originally posted by HockeyDad Now, if they introduce something similar to the now discontinued 18-250mm and price it right, There's also that in the lens roadmap, though with that big a range, I don't think that would be easy for newbies to get too. But good investment, yes!

02-09-2012, 01:44 AM	#124
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	But I thought that it was clear that the DA 40 XS will fit on any K-mount DSLR?

02-09-2012, 01:50 AM	#125
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Mareket Also it's quite a long lens design judging by the protruding rear tube... Yes, physically long, but most probably with a short focal length.

02-09-2012, 02:18 AM	#126
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Originally posted by Clavius But I thought that it was clear that the DA 40 XS will fit on any K-mount DSLR? Yes, but it looks like the upcoming, nameless wide-angle (?) XS lens probably won't.

02-09-2012, 03:33 AM	#127
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Erik Yes, but it looks like the upcoming, nameless wide-angle (?) XS lens probably won't. That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now.

02-09-2012, 05:09 AM	#129
7samurai Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 474	Originally posted by Clavius That's a shame, because it means the K-mount family will split into two. And one can be dropped later on. The K-01 was a confirmation that Pentax is committed to the K-mount... until now. I believe Pentax/Ricoh is committed to k-mount. Otherwise they wouldn't have released the 560mm lense. At least that one doesn't look like it has any protrusions. I'm thinking a higher end mirrorless is in the future to use the XS lenses. It's also really a great way to kick-start the mirrorless series by offering the entire k-mount lens lineup until they get their XS lenses going. This is definitely a multi-pronged attack to quickly acquire market share. I also suspect the XS lenses will be mostly pancakes where it will address criticism of the thickness of the body by having thinner lenses. This is going to be a GREAT year.

02-09-2012, 05:31 AM	#130
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by Asahiflex Mirrorless is the future, if you want it or not. Nope: mirrorless is the past. Remember, nowadays people UPgrade from (mirrorless) point&shoots to mirrored cameras. Why take a step backwards to mirrorless, if you can shoot DSLR?! Originally posted by Asahiflex Edit: woohoo, my 2000th post Congrats

02-09-2012, 05:44 AM	#131
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,652	Originally posted by Clavius Nope: mirrorless is the past. Remember, nowadays people UPgrade from (mirrorless) point&shoots to mirrored cameras. Why take a step backwards to mirrorless, if you can shoot DSLR?! Because entry level viewfinders suck?

02-09-2012, 05:57 AM	#132
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Rondec Because entry level viewfinders suck? Not as much as no viewfinders.

02-09-2012, 06:07 AM	#133
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by gazonk Not as much as no viewfinders. Word!

02-09-2012, 06:09 AM	#135
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by Zygonyx Definitely not, because the "in-protuding" lenses will necessarily have to be limited in focal lens, hence number, otherwise the "compactness" advantage falls apart. I agree. This trick makes great sense for wide angles and wide to longer zooms. No advantage for normal and tele lenses.