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01-06-2008, 10:52 PM   #1
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any effect on Pentax (sales) ?

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This would be one of K200D's main competitor. Their specs and features are very close. But both would be up against D40x and XTi. Their success would be determined by how much sales they can snatch away from Nikon/Canon. Not an easy task. And you can throw in the Oly E-510/410. This could the most fiercely competitive market segment, but also the largest piece of pie.

And when you consider that D40x and XTi replacements (? to be announced in PMA) would probably feature Live View (lacking in both A200 and K200D), it is going to be very tough. I believe the street price of K200D would determine how much sales it can generate.
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Seems like they used the k10d sensor, which is most likely what will be in the k200d so they will be quite similar.

I am still waiting for sony to drop the big bomb though, with a model placed above the a700, sony has the ff lens lineup to do something interesting to shake up the market. but the a200 is not very interesting nor ground breaking...
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It's a SONY.))

"faster, lighter and easier to use" - such camera must be called A100s, but not A200.
IMO. 2.7" LCD and 50$ higher in price. Good marketing.


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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
It's a SONY.))

"faster, lighter and easier to use" - such camera must be called A100s, but not A200.
IMO. 2.7" LCD and 200$ higher in price. Good marketing.
$200 higher than what? It is $200 cheaper than the A100.
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QuoteOriginally posted by nosnoop Quote
This would be one of K200D's main competitor. Their specs and features are very close. But both would be up against D40x and XTi. Their success would be determined by how much sales they can snatch away from Nikon/Canon. Not an easy task. And you can throw in the Oly E-510/410. This could the most fiercely competitive market segment, but also the largest piece of pie.

And when you consider that D40x and XTi replacements (? to be announced in PMA) would probably feature Live View (lacking in both A200 and K200D), it is going to be very tough. I believe the street price of K200D would determine how much sales it can generate.
Sony and Pentax still have the comparative advantage of in-body shake stabilization, but yeah, for most entry-level buyers, they'd be more attracted to live view than stabilization on all old and new lenses.

The A200 offers nothing new so far. Let's see how they manage the noise issues that's been discussed to death in D200/K10D/A100 threads, since Sony was confident enough to put in ISO 3200 in there.

QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
It's a SONY.))

"faster, lighter and easier to use" - such camera must be called A100s, but not A200.
IMO. 2.7" LCD and 200$ higher in price. Good marketing.
I'd rather wait and see how it performs before trashing it. But yeah, the specs themselves don't impress much, especially new DSLR buyers.
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Where's the obligatory step-up in megapixels? This new model looks more like a facelift, than anything else.
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A100 kit $650, A200 kit $700.

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A200 is low-end like D40. Sony A500 will be higher like K10 / D80.

Sony has 2008 good weapons with A200 A500 A700 ( + A900 ).

Not really funny for Pentax. The K20 has to be better as A700
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Live view doesn't seem to trump IS. Very hard to sell the Olympus E410 vs the K100D super. People wanted the IS more than the liveview.
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I messed around with a A700 at a sony store at a local mall. Was pretty impressed. Would like to spend a day with it though to figure every thing out on it. Didn't really like the shape of it though. And no top preview window.

After playing with it, I can't wait to see what pentax plans to drop. If they drop new bodies.
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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
A100 kit $650, A200 kit $700.
and to add to this, the a100 was 799,99 at launch, and dropped to the 650 range. so we can figure the a200 will drop to about 550 or so, after a while. hell, the a700 dropped considerably days after it was launched
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Thanks for posting! Have been waiting for some news.

Sounds like a decent one..however nothing ground breaking.

Are we gonna have to wait longer for the a500 announcement? =(


edit: the a200 page is up at sony, and there is a grip for it as well. freakin expensive though..

SonyStyle.com | Sony | Vertical Grip VG-B30AM

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
It's a SONY.))

"faster, lighter and easier to use" - such camera must be called A100s, but not A200.
IMO. 2.7" LCD and 50$ higher in price. Good marketing.
It gets the A700's processing and interface updates (Uber Fn menu, far better than the Pentax version as you can change every setting listed on the LCD), adds a grip, a real info-lithium battery (Same as A700, 1% increment battery life with accurate predictions) and faster AF. This is what the (Rather) underwhelming A100 should have been. Body design is similar, and so is the sensor (apparently there's some sort of on-chip NR, so it's another variant of the K10D sensor, not the same version).

Pricing is reasonable as long as you remember that nobody other than Sony will sell this for list. List on the A100 is well over the K10D but it sells for the same price as a D40X on the actual market.
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QuoteOriginally posted by vibi Quote
A200 is low-end like D40. Sony A500 will be higher like K10 / D80.

Sony has 2008 good weapons with A200 A500 A700 ( + A900 ).

Not really funny for Pentax. The K20 has to be better as A700
We're not sure about the other two yet, as those have been rumors up to this point. The pro spec one might turn up at PMA. If anything, some curious minds noted the grip on the A200 to be named VG-B30AM whereas the A700 grip was named VG-B70AM, which then pointed to a possible A300 in the works, otherwise, the grip would've been a VG-B20AM (emphasis mine).

The A200 looking more of a competitor in the D40x space, that A300 might be the camera poised to compete with the 400D/D80 replacement. Not sure where Pentax intends to place their K200D, but if it's within striking distance of the A200 in price, Pentax has a good shot of making noise there. I'm expecting the 400D/D80 replacements to have another bump in MP.

Hats-off to Sony, though, for going hard to complete their line-up this early in their DSLR life. I hope the new Hoya management shows this much enthusiasm, and from accounts thus far, they are.

QuoteOriginally posted by barondla Quote
Live view doesn't seem to trump IS. Very hard to sell the Olympus E410 vs the K100D super. People wanted the IS more than the liveview.
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Good point. I was thinking more of the P&S crowd moving up and looking for a DSLR that can approximate the shooting styles they used to have with their digicams.

QuoteOriginally posted by Oceanic Quote
Thanks for posting! Have been waiting for some news.

Sounds like a decent one..however nothing ground breaking.

Are we gonna have to wait longer for the a500 announcement? =(


edit: the a200 page is up at sony, and there is a grip for it as well. freakin expensive though..

SonyStyle.com | Sony | Vertical Grip VG-B30AM
Well, Sony's store lists at MSRP. Maybe so as not to anger retail stores over the internet and the US.

Yes, nothing ground-breaking here, at least in terms of specs. What would be interesting to know is if Sony managed to remove the excessive chroma noise from the A100, as well as made tweaks to other stuff. The release points to improved AF, quieter shutter, better IS, better DRO, and better image processing (Sony was confident enough to stick in ISO 3200). If these all pan out, then Sony would have a decent competitor (though not a sure winner).

What's more ground-breaking is the price. Not for us Pentax users, since we've known Pentax to be good value since way back then, but for Sony users.

QuoteOriginally posted by mawz Quote
It gets the A700's processing and interface updates (Uber Fn menu, far better than the Pentax version as you can change every setting listed on the LCD), adds a grip, a real info-lithium battery (Same as A700, 1% increment battery life with accurate predictions) and faster AF. This is what the (Rather) underwhelming A100 should have been. Body design is similar, and so is the sensor (apparently there's some sort of on-chip NR, so it's another variant of the K10D sensor, not the same version).

Pricing is reasonable as long as you remember that nobody other than Sony will sell this for list. List on the A100 is well over the K10D but it sells for the same price as a D40X on the actual market.
Agreed. I think the A100 was rushed to market, so as not to lose the starting-to-dwindle Konica-Minolta crowd. Good move by Sony, at least the A100 showed they're interested to play the DSLR race.
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