Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
04-18-2012, 01:25 AM   #211
Pentaxian
Clavius's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: De Klundert
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 4,115
QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
So the answer to the shortage of FF lenses is to start from scratch, with zero lenses?
Why couldn't they announce new FF lenses together with the new FF body at the same time? If they want to keep the FF developement quiet until they present it, then they sure shouldn't put new FF glass on the roadmap.

04-18-2012, 01:52 AM   #212
Pentaxian




Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Romania
Posts: 8,416
Why not announcing new K-mount FF lenses together with the new K-mount FF body at the same time?
Since they already have a dozen or so FF-compatible lenses, it's certainly easier to launch (let's say) another 3-5 and call it a day.

However, I don't expect a FF right now.
04-18-2012, 02:38 AM   #213
Veteran Member
parsons's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ENGLAND
Posts: 389
Please be right monochrome! That seems like a plausible lineup.

Might kiss the nearest black and white photograph of it turns out correct.
04-18-2012, 02:55 AM   #214
Veteran Member
eurostar's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Albareto, Italy
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 813
QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
So the answer to the shortage of FF lenses is to start from scratch, with zero lenses?
IF they have the resource to make the FF with the lilliputian marketshare they hold, they can present it with three professional FF zoom right from the start. The three limited, the two macro and three F2,8 Zoom would make a decent FF line up, especially if they at the same time announce some special lenses for later release, like a fish eye, a 85/1,4, a 300/2,8 and a 500/4.

Even better, a mirrorless 33x44 could use the vast 645D lens line up and at the same time allow the use of FF K lenses with an adapter... and that would mean they would not have to produce any FF new lens.

Or, they could make some hype full frame vintage camera, and present it just with the three amigos, like Fuji did with it's APS-C mirrorless camera. Nobody is complaining it has just three lenses, but they made-up it to resemble a Leica rangefinder.

04-18-2012, 02:59 AM   #215
Pentaxian
gazonk's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Oslo area, Norway
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 3,509
QuoteOriginally posted by eurostar Quote
Or, they could make some hype full frame vintage camera, and present it just with the three amigos, like Fuji did with it's APS-C mirrorless camera. Nobody is complaining it has just three lenses, but they made-up it to resemble a Leica rangefinder.
If they could make that camera look like the rebirth of the M-series or the LX, and make it significantly smaller than any existing FF DSLR, that strategy might actually work.
04-18-2012, 03:08 AM   #216
Pentaxian
Clavius's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: De Klundert
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 4,115
QuoteOriginally posted by eurostar Quote
Even better, a mirrorless 33x44 could use the vast 645D lens line up and at the same time allow the use of FF K lenses with an adapter... and that would mean they would not have to produce any FF new lens.
Yes, and 90% of the people who are waiting for FF, will still jump ship anyway, because they:
A: are not interested in MF
B: can't afford MF body and/or gear
C: both.


QuoteOriginally posted by eurostar Quote
Or, they could make some hype full frame vintage camera, and present it just with the three amigos, like Fuji did with it's APS-C mirrorless camera. Nobody is complaining it has just three lenses, but they made-up it to resemble a Leica rangefinder.
That's a different situation. The Pentax users craving FF have a collection of FF K-mount lenses. Obviously, they want a K-mount FF body to put those on. Introducing yet another new mount/system but with only 3 new lenses would be a slap in the face of those users. Aquiring an X amount of new customers isn't all that good if an equal amount (or more) will jump ship because of it.

If Pentax goes FF, then they should do it good too. A fully featured FF DSLR, but also with an vastly improved LV with focus peaking and improved AF would be a home run. Lots of people who jumped ship because of the lack of FF, did keep their high quality FA's to mount them on their Canons. So, such a DSLR might even get lost of customers back.

But lets not turn this thread into a FF-thread, otherwise all the Nikon guys will be in here soon.

Last edited by Clavius; 04-18-2012 at 03:15 AM.
04-18-2012, 04:46 AM   #217
Pentaxian
audiobomber's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sudbury, Ontario
Photos: Albums
Posts: 6,631
We need some more news on the K-r replacement because this thread has spun off into La-La Land.

Last edited by audiobomber; 04-18-2012 at 05:01 AM.
04-18-2012, 05:02 AM - 2 Likes   #218
Pentaxian




Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Madison, Wis., USA
Posts: 1,510
It turned into a FF thread about FF lenses? Quelle suprise!

04-18-2012, 05:19 AM   #219
Veteran Member
parsons's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ENGLAND
Posts: 389
if the K-r successor turns out to be a mirrorless k-01 variant with a viewfinder - as monochrome suggested somewhere (i lose track of which thread is which)
it could turn quite a lot of heads. especially if it comes out in what was the k-r price range
04-18-2012, 05:24 AM   #220
Pentaxian
audiobomber's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sudbury, Ontario
Photos: Albums
Posts: 6,631
QuoteOriginally posted by parsons Quote
if the K-r successor turns out to be a mirrorless k-01 variant with a viewfinder - as monochrome suggested somewhere (i lose track of which thread is which)
it could turn quite a lot of heads. especially if it comes out in what was the k-r price range
I will take a $100 bet from anyone that the K-r replacement is a DSLR, with mirror.
04-18-2012, 05:28 AM   #221
Veteran Member
parsons's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ENGLAND
Posts: 389
QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
I will take a $100 bet from anyone that the K-r replacement is a DSLR, with mirror.
yes i have to say that i think its unlikely.
maybe they will release both!?
again quite unlikely....

imo they need a viewfindered mirrorless though
and i think the k-01 has a place to occupy without one. so i don't think the the k-02 will have one, unless it is a hotshoe attachable one for example.

i might have actually considered the k-01 if it had a evf instead of a flash, even though i have a k-r. i never use the onboard flash it sucks. bounced and remote flash are the way forward.
doubt may others would have though
04-18-2012, 05:29 AM   #222
Senior Member
french_mike's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ireland and France
Posts: 167
agreed whih you 2 Parsons and Audio
04-18-2012, 05:30 AM - 1 Like   #223
Senior Member
TomE's Avatar

Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 294
Like we need another mirrorless camera that is totally useless in direct sunlight, how about back to the traditional DSLR.

Tom
04-18-2012, 05:41 AM   #224
Veteran Member
parsons's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ENGLAND
Posts: 389
QuoteOriginally posted by ennacac Quote
Like we need another mirrorless camera that is totally useless in direct sunlight, how about back to the traditional DSLR.

Tom
if it has an evf then it wouldn't be useless in sunlight though would it?
04-18-2012, 05:52 AM - 1 Like   #225
Pentaxian
Clavius's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: De Klundert
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 4,115
QuoteOriginally posted by parsons Quote
if it has an evf then it wouldn't be useless in sunlight though would it?
Correct... Then it would only be useless with fast moving objects, and/or whilst panning, and/or in low light situations...
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
k-r, pentax, pentax news, pentax rumors, successor
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pentax K30 Picture Leak & Discussion: Weather-sealed intro DSLR LFLee Pentax News and Rumors 1054 05-31-2012 01:12 AM
K-r's successor DarrenCax Pentax K-r 24 03-30-2012 07:27 PM
Are we likely to see a successor to the K-5 soon? RobA_Oz Pentax K-5 23 03-18-2012 10:03 AM
What does its successor need to be better to keep me from going for a cheaper K-x? JoepLX3 Pentax DSLR Discussion 29 09-02-2010 10:48 AM
There will be no K30 JCPentax Pentax News and Rumors 64 06-04-2009 06:07 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:45 AM. | See also: NikonForums.com, part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top