Forgot Password
Pentax Camera Forums Home
 

Reply
Show Printable Version Search this Thread
04-19-2012, 08:53 AM   #301
ogl
Pentaxian
ogl's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Siberia
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 7,294
QuoteOriginally posted by mecrox Quote
Run through Google, some of it says:

'Mr Anton Melnikov held a conference on the development plans of PENTAX ... Emphasis was placed on "do not kropnutosti" new lenses'

This kropnutosti sounds pretty fearsome, is it something to do with not putting them in the microwave if they have gotten wet?
Kropnutost - it's one of word (new speak) in Russian which means "APS-C sensor's size", otherwise - CROP.
Krop = Crop. All European languages came from proto-languages of folk which lived at the territory of modern Russia many times ago (middle bank of Don river
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kostyonki,_Voronezh_Oblast,
Arkaim - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkaim) - and this languages had the roots in Sanskrit.



Last edited by ogl; 04-19-2012 at 09:18 AM.
04-19-2012, 09:14 AM   #302
Veteran Member




Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,893
QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
More expensive, true, but worth more. I forgot about SR.
SR doesn't mean much when your lenses without SR cost as much as lenses with VR.
04-19-2012, 09:30 AM   #303
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
boriscleto's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 12,898
QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
More expensive, true, but worth more. I forgot about SR. No in-body motor means no legacy lenses and reduced choice of new lenses. SR and in-body motor were certainly important to me when I was shopping for my first DSLR.
Lack of in-body motor is the exact reason I ended up with a K-x instead of a D3000 or D5000. I have never regretted that decision. Lack of metering with non-chipped MF lenses is the other reason I ended up with a Pentax instead of a low-end Nikon.
04-19-2012, 09:35 AM   #304
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
eddie1960's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 12,273
QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
Lack of in-body motor is the exact reason I ended up with a K-x instead of a D3000 or D5000. I have never regretted that decision. Lack of metering with non-chipped MF lenses is the other reason I ended up with a Pentax instead of a low-end Nikon.
for the average 3000/3100/3200 buyer it won't make a difference since the will use maybe 2 lenses at best and there is a cheap tele zoom to match the cheap kit zoom. but they will think they have the best because they have NIKON

I was already with Pentax so my choice was easy (that and the nikons felt like crap compared to my ds, and the canons were even worse (and I got to use them both a fair bit as i was selling them)

04-19-2012, 09:45 AM   #305
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
boriscleto's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 12,898
QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
for the average 3000/3100/3200 buyer it won't make a difference since the will use maybe 2 lenses at best and there is a cheap tele zoom to match the cheap kit zoom. but they will think they have the best because they have NIKON
You forgot the cheap 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 for the ones who have heard how much better PRIME lenses are.
04-19-2012, 09:58 AM   #306
Pentaxian
audiobomber's Avatar

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sudbury, Ontario
Photos: Albums
Posts: 6,726
QuoteOriginally posted by ElJamoquio Quote
SR doesn't mean much when your lenses without SR cost as much as lenses with VR.
It does to me, I have 8 prime lenses that are stabilized on Pentax, not available with VR on Nikon.

I do agree with the point people are making. Most customers who buy a base Nikon are moving up from p&s and will use one or two kit lenses. They know the Nikon name. They know nothing about photography or gear and don't care, they just want faster focus and better ISO performance. But that is not the whole market. Clearly there are people who care about performance and photographically relevant features. Some of those newbies will choose Pentax. That's how some of us who didn't shoot Pentax film cameras got here.

Last edited by audiobomber; 04-19-2012 at 10:39 AM.
04-19-2012, 09:59 AM   #307
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
eddie1960's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 12,273
QuoteOriginally posted by boriscleto Quote
You forgot the cheap 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 for the ones who have heard how much better PRIME lenses are.
yep, have you ever picked up that 50 BTW. Waht a cheap POS, Iq is ok but damn it's not going to last
04-19-2012, 10:03 AM   #308
Pentaxian




Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NJ
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 4,902
QuoteOriginally posted by audiobomber Quote
It does to me, I have 8 prime lenses that are stabilized on Pentax, not available with SR on Nikon.

I do agree with the point people are making. Most customers who buy a base Nikon are moving up from p&s and will use one or two kit lenses. They know the Nikon name. They know nothing about photography or gear and don't care, they just want faster focus and better ISO performance. But that is not the whole market. Clearly there are people who care about performance and photographically relevant features. Some of those newbies will choose Pentax. That's how some of us who didn't shoot Pentax film cameras got here.
It would be very interesting to know how many folks who buy entry-level DSLR kits invest in, say, an additional 2 lenses. It seems to me there is a fairly common thought that people who purchase "entry level" never evolve, or maybe even keep the "entry level" camera but improve their photographic skills beyond "entry level".

04-19-2012, 10:05 AM   #309
Veteran Member




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Manila
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 2,198
QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
It seems to me there is a fairly common thought that people who purchase "entry level" never migrate, or maybe even keep the "entry level" camera but improve their photographic skills beyond "entry level".
The first one, the most number, the second, less, but perhaps they eventually decide to move on to a better body. Well, just guessing
04-19-2012, 10:12 AM   #310
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
eddie1960's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Toronto
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 12,273
QuoteOriginally posted by luftfluss Quote
It would be very interesting to know how many folks who buy entry-level DSLR kits invest in, say, an additional 2 lenses. It seems to me there is a fairly common thought that people who purchase "entry level" never evolve, or maybe even keep the "entry level" camera but improve their photographic skills beyond "entry level".
I would bet no more than 10% of entry level buyers never evolve beyond a 2 lens kit and most of them will never get out of green mode - this is just based on anecdotal observations though
Fro a huge number of them the camera will sit in a closet until they need a camera for something special after the initial thrill of ownership wears off - no different than 30 years ago why do you think you can find so many old film bodies in good shape
04-19-2012, 10:43 AM   #311
Pentaxian




Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Madison, Wis., USA
Posts: 1,510
I have the same anecdotes regarding my friends, most of whom have more talent than I but don't want to spend time in that direction.
04-19-2012, 10:49 AM   #312
Loyal Site Supporter
Loyal Site Supporter
monochrome's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kirkwood (St. Louis) MO
Photos: Gallery | Albums
Posts: 20,608
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Like Wayne Gretsky skating to where the puck will be, not where it is, Nikon knows where Pentax wants to go and is trying to get there first.
QuoteOriginally posted by glanglois Quote
I don't think they care much. Probably not worth having more than one meeting about the subject. They know where to direct their time, energy, and development resources.
QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
yep, have you ever picked up that 50 BTW. Waht a cheap POS, Iq is ok but damn it's not going to last
Pretty hard to pick it up without a store presence.

(Ducking Again!!)
04-19-2012, 01:01 PM   #313
Pentaxian




Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Madison, Wis., USA
Posts: 1,510
Oooh! It's a pun! Just the right kind of humour when no real news is available.

Should bring the pun-slingers out of the woodwork!
04-19-2012, 01:06 PM   #314
Site Supporter
Site Supporter
boriscleto's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Liverpool, NY
Photos: Gallery
Posts: 12,898
QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Pretty hard to pick it up without a store presence.

(Ducking Again!!)
He was talking about the Nikon 50/1.8
04-19-2012, 01:08 PM   #315
Inactive Account




Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,311
wich one? D? G?

my friend got an 50 1.8 G. Very nice lens, great price point, nice IQ.
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook
  • Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
Tags - Make this thread easier to find by adding keywords to it!
k-r, pentax, pentax news, pentax rumors, successor
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pentax K30 Picture Leak & Discussion: Weather-sealed intro DSLR LFLee Pentax News and Rumors 1054 05-31-2012 01:12 AM
K-r's successor DarrenCax Pentax K-r 24 03-30-2012 07:27 PM
Are we likely to see a successor to the K-5 soon? RobA_Oz Pentax K-5 23 03-18-2012 10:03 AM
What does its successor need to be better to keep me from going for a cheaper K-x? JoepLX3 Pentax DSLR Discussion 29 09-02-2010 10:48 AM
There will be no K30 JCPentax Pentax News and Rumors 64 06-04-2009 06:07 PM



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:23 PM. | See also: NikonForums.com, CanonForums.com part of our network of photo forums!
  • Red (Default)
  • Green
  • Gray
  • Dark
  • Dark Yellow
  • Dark Blue
  • Old Red
  • Old Green
  • Old Gray
  • Dial-Up Style
Hello! It's great to see you back on the forum! Have you considered joining the community?
register
Creating a FREE ACCOUNT takes under a minute, removes ads, and lets you post! [Dismiss]
Top