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HockeyDad · 04-17-2012, 04:53 AM

Originally posted by Caat

IF Pentax are going to release a FF at Photokina

I seriously doubt the K-r replacement will be a FF... that's just crazy talk.

Caat · 04-17-2012, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by HockeyDad

I seriously doubt the K-r replacement will be a FF... that's just crazy talk.

I wasn't suggesting that

The K-r replacement can be just announced - that doesn't matter too much as it's not going to be a ground breaking camera for Pentax.

ElJamoquio · 04-17-2012, 07:02 AM

It seems odd that Pentax would release two DSLR's at photokina.

It also seems odd to release one, say a month or two before photokina, and then another one at photokina.

Etc.

The longer we wait without a k-r replacement, the less likely it seems that photokina will have a FF.

farhagh · 04-17-2012, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by Clavius

...But, it would also give the competitors a heads-up.

A heads-up to do what? Aren't Nikon and Canon enough busy competing with each other? Why they should care about Pentax FF?

p.s. I am not one of those waiting for (Pentax) FF. I'm not such a good photographer to benefit from a FF sensor.

Clavius · 04-17-2012, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by farhagh

A heads-up to do what? Aren't Nikon and Canon enough busy competing with each other? Why they should care about Pentax FF?

Good point.

Originally posted by farhagh

p.s. I am not one of those waiting for (Pentax) FF. I'm not such a good photographer to benefit from a FF sensor.

Skill doesn't matter. If you want it, then you want it. Personally, I don't care for paper-thin DOF. It would just mean I have to stop down more to get my subject totally in focus.

**maxfield_photo** · 04-17-2012, 07:57 AM

I think Nikon in particular watches Pentax more closely than we might realize. Their "1 series" cameras are small system cameras like the Q and they come in goofy colors like the Kr. I think the D800's 36 megapickles is an attempt to compete with medium format cameras, the 645D being the least expensive of those. I don't know if they would lose any sleep over a Pentax full frame, but they might change some pricing strategies to try and keep the competition out of the market.

HockeyDad · 04-17-2012, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by HockeyDad

I seriously doubt the K-r replacement will be a FF... that's just crazy talk.

Originally posted by Caat

I wasn't suggesting that

I know, I was just being facetious since a thread titled "K-r successor from PhotoRumor" has become yet another FF thread. I'm just a newbie who's talent and budget don't need a FF but I am curious about the K-r & K5 replacement bodies so I skim the rumor threads from time to time. The path this one has taken gave me a chuckle... Pretty soon I expect to see a comment on someone's cat photo that reads, "Love it! Only critique is that you couldn't shoot it with a FF."

Na Horuk · 04-17-2012, 08:42 AM

I was just thinking about the Pentax DSLRs currently in production. Its just hte K-5, right? (The K-01, Q, and other point and shoots dont qualify) Maybe Pentax will announce it will no longer make DSLRs

**monochrome** · 04-17-2012, 08:49 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Na Horuk

I was just thinking about the Pentax DSLRs currently in production. Its just hte K-5, right? (The K-01, Q, and other point and shoots dont qualify) Maybe Pentax will announce it will no longer make DSLRs

At CES the Product Manager announced they are absolutely committed to dSLR.

My take: (But I get flack for this now, whereas a month ago people were happy)
K5 - until December
K-r successor (unclear features - K-01 tech with a VF/EVF, not OVF) - May/June
K-5n - K-5 with articulating LCD, better video and Prime M image processor - June/July/August
K-3 - New Body - 24Mp sensor. Photokina.
LX-D (FF) announced Photokina - released 2q 2013 - maybe mirrorless, maybe interchangeable viewfinders - (in honor of the 2012 anniversary of the Asahifles, the first* Reflex camera)

That doesn't include Ricoh and lenses, Q, K-Zero platform or 645D.

This is an incredibly rich product menu.

french_mike · 04-17-2012, 08:49 AM

that would be a nightmare ! after all the money a spend on the K mount

french_mike · 04-17-2012, 08:56 AM

i hope your are right Monochrome

Clavius · 04-17-2012, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by monochrome

At CES the Product Manager announced they are absolutely committed to dSLR.

My take: (But I get flack for this now, whereas a month ago people were happy)
K5 - until December
K-r successor (unclear features - K-01 tech with a VF/EVF, not OVF) - May/June
K-5n - K-5 with articulating LCD, better video and Prime M image processor - June/July/August
K-3 - New Body - 24Mp sensor. Photokina.
LX-D (FF) announced Photokina - released 2q 2013 - maybe mirrorless, maybe interchangeable viewfinders - (in honor of the 2012 anniversary of the Asahifles, the first* Reflex camera)

That doesn't include Ricoh and lenses.

That would be a very cool scenario.

**boriscleto** · 04-17-2012, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Na Horuk

I was just thinking about the Pentax DSLRs currently in production. Its just hte K-5, right? (The K-01, Q, and other point and shoots dont qualify) Maybe Pentax will announce it will no longer make DSLRs

You forgot the 645D, it's a DSLR.

Na Horuk · 04-17-2012, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

You forgot the 645D, it's a DSLR.

I did. You are right. Its just a little out of my price range and therefore outside my conceptual world. By around 10000.

**monochrome** · 04-17-2012, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by french_mike

i hope your are right Monochrome

Well of course I'm not right, unless I'm incredibly lucky at guessing the meaning of hints and clues. Whatever portion of my supposition is true (I am firm on the K-5, K-5n and the K-3) I edited the original post to include "This is an incredibly rich product menu."

I really don't know why everyone is so down on Pentax Ricoh (except in the USA, where they can't seem to get out of their own way).

(Ducking now)

04-17-2012, 08:49 AM - 2 Likes	#189
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Na Horuk I was just thinking about the Pentax DSLRs currently in production. Its just hte K-5, right? (The K-01, Q, and other point and shoots dont qualify) Maybe Pentax will announce it will no longer make DSLRs At CES the Product Manager announced they are absolutely committed to dSLR. My take: (But I get flack for this now, whereas a month ago people were happy) K5 - until December K-r successor (unclear features - K-01 tech with a VF/EVF, not OVF) - May/June K-5n - K-5 with articulating LCD, better video and Prime M image processor - June/July/August K-3 - New Body - 24Mp sensor. Photokina. LX-D (FF) announced Photokina - released 2q 2013 - maybe mirrorless, maybe interchangeable viewfinders - (in honor of the 2012 anniversary of the Asahifles, the first* Reflex camera) That doesn't include Ricoh and lenses, Q, K-Zero platform or 645D. This is an incredibly rich product menu. Last edited by monochrome; 04-17-2012 at 03:55 PM.

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04-17-2012, 04:53 AM	#181
HockeyDad Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 482	Originally posted by Caat IF Pentax are going to release a FF at Photokina I seriously doubt the K-r replacement will be a FF... that's just crazy talk.

04-17-2012, 05:36 AM	#182
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	Originally posted by HockeyDad I seriously doubt the K-r replacement will be a FF... that's just crazy talk. I wasn't suggesting that The K-r replacement can be just announced - that doesn't matter too much as it's not going to be a ground breaking camera for Pentax.

04-17-2012, 07:02 AM	#183
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	It seems odd that Pentax would release two DSLR's at photokina. It also seems odd to release one, say a month or two before photokina, and then another one at photokina. Etc. The longer we wait without a k-r replacement, the less likely it seems that photokina will have a FF.

04-17-2012, 07:38 AM	#184
farhagh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ohio Photos: Albums Posts: 339	Originally posted by Clavius ...But, it would also give the competitors a heads-up. A heads-up to do what? Aren't Nikon and Canon enough busy competing with each other? Why they should care about Pentax FF? p.s. I am not one of those waiting for (Pentax) FF. I'm not such a good photographer to benefit from a FF sensor.

04-17-2012, 07:46 AM	#185
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by farhagh A heads-up to do what? Aren't Nikon and Canon enough busy competing with each other? Why they should care about Pentax FF? Good point. Originally posted by farhagh p.s. I am not one of those waiting for (Pentax) FF. I'm not such a good photographer to benefit from a FF sensor. Skill doesn't matter. If you want it, then you want it. Personally, I don't care for paper-thin DOF. It would just mean I have to stop down more to get my subject totally in focus.

04-17-2012, 07:57 AM	#186
maxfield_photo Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,216	I think Nikon in particular watches Pentax more closely than we might realize. Their "1 series" cameras are small system cameras like the Q and they come in goofy colors like the Kr. I think the D800's 36 megapickles is an attempt to compete with medium format cameras, the 645D being the least expensive of those. I don't know if they would lose any sleep over a Pentax full frame, but they might change some pricing strategies to try and keep the competition out of the market.

04-17-2012, 08:12 AM	#187
HockeyDad Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 482	Originally posted by HockeyDad I seriously doubt the K-r replacement will be a FF... that's just crazy talk. Originally posted by Caat I wasn't suggesting that I know, I was just being facetious since a thread titled "K-r successor from PhotoRumor" has become yet another FF thread. I'm just a newbie who's talent and budget don't need a FF but I am curious about the K-r & K5 replacement bodies so I skim the rumor threads from time to time. The path this one has taken gave me a chuckle... Pretty soon I expect to see a comment on someone's cat photo that reads, "Love it! Only critique is that you couldn't shoot it with a FF."

04-17-2012, 08:42 AM	#188
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	I was just thinking about the Pentax DSLRs currently in production. Its just hte K-5, right? (The K-01, Q, and other point and shoots dont qualify) Maybe Pentax will announce it will no longer make DSLRs

04-17-2012, 08:49 AM	#190
french_mike Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland and France Posts: 167	that would be a nightmare ! after all the money a spend on the K mount

04-17-2012, 08:56 AM	#191
french_mike Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland and France Posts: 167	i hope your are right Monochrome

04-17-2012, 09:03 AM	#192
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by monochrome At CES the Product Manager announced they are absolutely committed to dSLR. My take: (But I get flack for this now, whereas a month ago people were happy) K5 - until December K-r successor (unclear features - K-01 tech with a VF/EVF, not OVF) - May/June K-5n - K-5 with articulating LCD, better video and Prime M image processor - June/July/August K-3 - New Body - 24Mp sensor. Photokina. LX-D (FF) announced Photokina - released 2q 2013 - maybe mirrorless, maybe interchangeable viewfinders - (in honor of the 2012 anniversary of the Asahifles, the first* Reflex camera) That doesn't include Ricoh and lenses. That would be a very cool scenario.

04-17-2012, 09:26 AM	#193
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by Na Horuk I was just thinking about the Pentax DSLRs currently in production. Its just hte K-5, right? (The K-01, Q, and other point and shoots dont qualify) Maybe Pentax will announce it will no longer make DSLRs You forgot the 645D, it's a DSLR.

04-17-2012, 09:37 AM	#194
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	Originally posted by boriscleto You forgot the 645D, it's a DSLR. I did. You are right. Its just a little out of my price range and therefore outside my conceptual world. By around 10000.

04-17-2012, 10:49 AM	#195
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by french_mike i hope your are right Monochrome Well of course I'm not right, unless I'm incredibly lucky at guessing the meaning of hints and clues. Whatever portion of my supposition is true (I am firm on the K-5, K-5n and the K-3) I edited the original post to include "*This is an incredibly rich product menu.*" I really don't know why everyone is so down on Pentax Ricoh (except in the USA, where they can't seem to get out of their own way). (Ducking now)

K-r successor: K30

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