K-r successor: K30

Erik · 05-16-2012, 06:51 AM

Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr

Two things –

Firstly, I don't really know French but I'm pretty sure "batterie et/ou piles AA" means it can be powered by "[regular] battery and/or AA batteries". That is, not AA batteries OR the lithium battery like the K-r, but both at the same time. That sounds pretty cool, but it could just be poorly worded in the ad.

Secondly, with the K-5 sensor, the double e-dials, weather sealing and K-5 style AF-S/AF-C/MF switch, this is going to cannibalize K-5 sales like crazy. Which, to me, must mean that the K-5 replacement is also imminent.

french_mike · 05-16-2012, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by Erik

Two things –

Firstly, I don't really know French but I'm pretty sure "batterie et/ou piles AA" means it can be powered by "[regular] battery and/or AA batteries". That is, not AA batteries OR the lithium battery like the K-r, but both at the same time.

that what it mean yes ... (maybe with a battery pack to)

Mistral75 · 05-16-2012, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by french_mike

that what it mean yes ... (maybe with a battery pack to)

That is indeed what it means but I doubt it is what the writer intended to say. Besides there isn't enough space to put two battery compartments.

eddie1960 · 05-16-2012, 07:02 AM

Definitely this will cannibalize K5 sales (though I imagine it is Pentamirror rather than Pentaprism and no top lcd, and there will likely be other differences. I would guess K5 successor isn't too far off either (given the rumoured 3 apsc camera line then is this the middle one??? or the entry!!!)
Certainly looks like a very capable camera

Erik · 05-16-2012, 07:02 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

That is indeed what it means but I doubt it is what the writer intended to say. Besides there isn't enough space to put two battery compartments.

But it also goes on to say that it "enables the photographer to shoot/film for twice as long in severe conditions" which would be downright misleading if it was just like the K-r design. I read it like "in really crappy conditions you probably don't want to futz around with changing batteries, so here's a camera that will enable you to stick some AA's in there as a backup".

Again, reservations for my terrible French

and I don't doubt for a second that this could just as well be a misunderstanding or miscommunication. I just thought it was an interesting thing to point out.

french_mike · 05-16-2012, 07:03 AM

battery pack = grip

Eberbachl · 05-16-2012, 07:10 AM

Va Voom! I like it... pretty excited to see what the K-5 replacement is.

gazonk · 05-16-2012, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by Erik

excepting details like the top LCD and expansion to ISO 51200

Didn't notice the lack of top LCD.

Most pressing remaining questions now are:

- does it have the silent shutter of the K-5?
- does it have a pentaprism or a -mirror?

Regardless of the answers to those questions, this is really value for money.

Mistral75 · 05-16-2012, 07:16 AM

Pentamirror most certainly unless Pentax have found a new, cheaper way to manufacture prisms: this thing is priced at the same level as the K200D (€749 with kit lens at launch in January 2008) in spite of a much less favourable Yen exchange rate.

Erik · 05-16-2012, 07:22 AM

Oh, that earlier post of mine went through – I didn't think it did

Almost certainly pentamirror, yes. Whether the shutter is quiet remains to be seen, but hopefully it is a bit quieter than the K-r, which was surprisingly loud. Not a big deal for me personally, but I realize why that matters to some folks.

ElJamoquio · 05-16-2012, 07:34 AM

Forgive me for repeating myself, but I wonder why they don't just keep the k-5 and introduce another level above it. I wonder what the tooling costs are for this camera vs. the additional piece price costs for the k-5?

In either case, much like the k-5, it looks like a very compelling product.

Sinister · 05-16-2012, 07:35 AM

I guess hardware costs are lower (e.g. processor, RAM, LCD, no magnesium body...)

Mistral75 · 05-16-2012, 07:36 AM

Let see a drawback to this leak: with those specifications for the K-30, there is very little hope for the K-3 to have a 24x36 sensor, otherwise there would be a huge gap in the Pentax line-up.

Things would have been different if the name of the leaked body had been K-300.

Mistral75 · 05-16-2012, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Sinister

I guess hardware costs are lower (e.g. processor, RAM, LCD, no magnesium body...)

Pentamirror instead of pentaprism...

french_mike · 05-16-2012, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Let see a drawback to this leak: with those specifications for the K-30, there is very little hope for the K-3 to have a 24x36 sensor, otherwise there would be a huge gap in the Pentax line-up.

Things would have been different if the name of the leaked body had been K-300.

True, i guest in 2013 we will have a K300 K30 K3 aps-c and why not a KF1 24*36 so

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05-16-2012, 06:51 AM	#481
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Originally posted by MouLaG Ôfr Two things – Firstly, I don't really know French but I'm pretty sure "batterie et/ou piles AA" means it can be powered by "[regular] battery and/or AA batteries". That is, not AA batteries OR the lithium battery like the K-r, but both at the same time. That sounds pretty cool, but it could just be poorly worded in the ad. Secondly, with the K-5 sensor, the double e-dials, weather sealing and K-5 style AF-S/AF-C/MF switch, this is going to cannibalize K-5 sales like crazy. Which, to me, must mean that the K-5 replacement is also imminent.

05-16-2012, 06:55 AM	#482
french_mike Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland and France Posts: 167	Originally posted by Erik Two things – Firstly, I don't really know French but I'm pretty sure "batterie et/ou piles AA" means it can be powered by "[regular] battery and/or AA batteries". That is, not AA batteries OR the lithium battery like the K-r, but both at the same time. that what it mean yes ... (maybe with a battery pack to)

05-16-2012, 06:59 AM	#483
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by french_mike that what it mean yes ... (maybe with a battery pack to) That is indeed what it means but I doubt it is what the writer intended to say. Besides there isn't enough space to put two battery compartments.

05-16-2012, 07:02 AM	#484
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Definitely this will cannibalize K5 sales (though I imagine it is Pentamirror rather than Pentaprism and no top lcd, and there will likely be other differences. I would guess K5 successor isn't too far off either (given the rumoured 3 apsc camera line then is this the middle one??? or the entry!!!) Certainly looks like a very capable camera

05-16-2012, 07:02 AM	#485
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Originally posted by Mistral75 That is indeed what it means but I doubt it is what the writer intended to say. Besides there isn't enough space to put two battery compartments. But it also goes on to say that it "enables the photographer to shoot/film for twice as long in severe conditions" which would be downright misleading if it was just like the K-r design. I read it like "in really crappy conditions you probably don't want to futz around with changing batteries, so here's a camera that will enable you to stick some AA's in there as a backup". Again, reservations for my terrible French and I don't doubt for a second that this could just as well be a misunderstanding or miscommunication. I just thought it was an interesting thing to point out.

05-16-2012, 07:03 AM	#486
french_mike Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland and France Posts: 167	battery pack = grip

05-16-2012, 07:10 AM	#487
Eberbachl Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Doreen Posts: 111	Va Voom! I like it... pretty excited to see what the K-5 replacement is.

05-16-2012, 07:12 AM	#488
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Erik excepting details like the top LCD and expansion to ISO 51200 Didn't notice the lack of top LCD. Most pressing remaining questions now are: - does it have the silent shutter of the K-5? - does it have a pentaprism or a -mirror? Regardless of the answers to those questions, this is really value for money.

05-16-2012, 07:16 AM	#489
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Pentamirror most certainly unless Pentax have found a new, cheaper way to manufacture prisms: this thing is priced at the same level as the K200D (€749 with kit lens at launch in January 2008) in spite of a much less favourable Yen exchange rate.

05-16-2012, 07:22 AM	#490
Erik Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Umeå, Sweden Posts: 755	Oh, that earlier post of mine went through – I didn't think it did Almost certainly pentamirror, yes. Whether the shutter is quiet remains to be seen, but hopefully it is a bit quieter than the K-r, which was surprisingly loud. Not a big deal for me personally, but I realize why that matters to some folks.

05-16-2012, 07:34 AM	#491
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Forgive me for repeating myself, but I wonder why they don't just keep the k-5 and introduce another level above it. I wonder what the tooling costs are for this camera vs. the additional piece price costs for the k-5? In either case, much like the k-5, it looks like a very compelling product.

05-16-2012, 07:35 AM	#492
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	I guess hardware costs are lower (e.g. processor, RAM, LCD, no magnesium body...)

05-16-2012, 07:36 AM	#493
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Let see a drawback to this leak: with those specifications for the K-30, there is very little hope for the K-3 to have a 24x36 sensor, otherwise there would be a huge gap in the Pentax line-up. Things would have been different if the name of the leaked body had been K-300.

05-16-2012, 07:37 AM	#494
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Sinister I guess hardware costs are lower (e.g. processor, RAM, LCD, no magnesium body...) Pentamirror instead of pentaprism...

05-16-2012, 07:45 AM	#495
french_mike Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland and France Posts: 167	Originally posted by Mistral75 Let see a drawback to this leak: with those specifications for the K-30, there is very little hope for the K-3 to have a 24x36 sensor, otherwise there would be a huge gap in the Pentax line-up. Things would have been different if the name of the leaked body had been K-300. True, i guest in 2013 we will have a K300 K30 K3 aps-c and why not a KF1 24*36 so