Pentax K-z

gazonk · 03-21-2012, 12:47 PM

What's the best guess on specs? Similar to K-01 except for mirror/OVF? 100% OVF (hinted by Pentax executive)?

JinDesu · 03-21-2012, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

that huge colour variation for marketing will be for the japanese market only. custom orders are not viable for worldwide distribution

That is tremendously sad, as there goes my yellow-green combination abomination that I was going to make

But it'd be interesting to see some of their more serious color combinations. Black and white is always a great combo. Grey and black too. Red and black.

Originally posted by gazonk

What's the best guess on specs? Similar to K-01 except for mirror/OVF? 100% OVF (hinted by Pentax executive)?

It would be very interesting and weird if they used the k-5 sensor in the k-r replacement. I, for one, hope not though - only because if it has a new sensor it means Pentax has been looking around the sensor playing fields.

eddie1960 · 03-21-2012, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

That is tremendously sad, as there goes my yellow-green combination abomination that I was going to make

But it'd be interesting to see some of their more serious color combinations. Black and white is always a great combo. Grey and black too. Red and black.

I'm guessing we may see no more than 4-5 variations over here

It would be nice if they opened it up to orders worldwide for people who don't mind paying full MSRP for something unique

elho_cid · 03-21-2012, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Docrwm

The Germans will not be happy.

Germans that don't like Pentax will call it nazi phone, but german Pentaxians will like it. They will Kai-Zer or whatever positive they can relate to in history.

JinDesu · 03-21-2012, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by elho_cid

Germans that don't like Pentax will call it nazi phone, but german Pentaxians will like it. They will Kai-Zer or whatever positive they can relate to in history.

I really like this. I changed my mind, it's no longer the Kay-Zed to me; it is now Kai-Zer!

Jean Poitiers · 03-21-2012, 01:15 PM

Bonjour,

Oui, this is shameless re-posting of my previous post, but ... REMEMBER THE "Q" !!!

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/149631-dont-say-pentax...nch-q-cul.html

Will history repeat itself, again and again ... ?!

Salut, John le Frog

JinDesu · 03-21-2012, 01:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by John Poitiers

Bonjour,

Oui, this is shameless re-posting of my previous post, but ... REMEMBER THE "Q" !!!

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/149631-dont-say-pentax...nch-q-cul.html

Will history repeat itself, again and again ... ?!

Salut, John le Frog

So what do you call the Q in France?

"A Royale with cheese"

eddie1960 · 03-21-2012, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

I really like this. I changed my mind, it's no longer the Kay-Zed to me; it is now Kai-Zer!

the beginning of Pentax's grand imperial design to dominate the world bwahahaha,

Jean Poitiers · 03-21-2012, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

So what do you call the Q in France?

"A Royale with cheese"

Bonsoir,

We say "cul" ... et voila!

Cheers, J

**monochrome** · 03-21-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by gazonk

What's the best guess on specs? Similar to K-01 except for mirror/OVF? 100% OVF (hinted by Pentax executive)?

Originally posted by JinDesu

It would be very interesting and weird if they used the k-5 sensor in the k-r replacement. I, for one, hope not though - only because if it has a new sensor it means Pentax has been looking around the sensor playing fields.

This isn't the K-5 replacement.

Penta-mirror, not mirror-prism; Probably not 100%, [EDIT: in the Kitazawa interview linked in a following post he states Pentax wants even entry-level cameras to be full coverage] but K-01 focus peaking LiveView
- K-3 will be 100% mirror-prism 1:1 magnification, or close and improved LiveView with colors
16.3 Mp CMOS sensor same as K-01, plus PRIME-M imaging engine
- K-3 will have the new sensor (24Mp?) and maybe an improved PRIME-M; maybe improved PDAF autofocus
Same K-01 video output (limitations)
- K-3 maybe HDMI monitor output

deadwolfbones · 03-21-2012, 01:35 PM

These promotional documents look like total amateur hour to me. Looks like fake BS.

sjwaldron · 03-21-2012, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by monochrome

This isn't the K-5 replacement.

Penta-mirror, not mirror-prism; Probably not 100%, but K-01 fcus peaking LiveView
- K-3 will be 100% mirror-prism 1:1 magnification, or close and improved LiveView with colors
16.3 Mp CMOS sensor same as K-01, plus PRIME-M imaging engine
- K-3 will have the new sensor (24Mp?) and maybe an improved PRIME-M; maybe improved PDAF autofocus
Same K-01 video output (limitations)
- K-3 maybe HDMI monitor output

That Impress Japan magazine interview that came out a few months ago had the guy stating that all DSLRs moving forward would have 100% viewfinders.

zosxavius · 03-21-2012, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by JinDesu

That is tremendously sad, as there goes my yellow-green combination abomination that I was going to make

But it'd be interesting to see some of their more serious color combinations. Black and white is always a great combo. Grey and black too. Red and black.

It would be very interesting and weird if they used the k-5 sensor in the k-r replacement. I, for one, hope not though - only because if it has a new sensor it means Pentax has been looking around the sensor playing fields.

Why use a new sensor when they have the m prime engine already developed for the k-01 sensor? The k-7 trickled down into the k-r. I would imagine that the sequel has elements from the k-5 to keep costs down. Just my theory. I still think the k-5 sensor was a major breakthrough in aps sensors and see no reason why not to use it. It still has lower noise than the new crop of sony sensors. I'm just hoping pentax has something really good baking in the oven for this fall.

sjwaldron · 03-21-2012, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by zosxavius

Why use a new sensor when they have the m prime engine already developed for the k-01 sensor? The k-7 trickled down into the k-r. I would imagine that the sequel has elements from the k-5 to keep costs down. Just my theory. I still think the k-5 sensor was a major breakthrough in aps sensors and see no reason why not to use it. It still has lower noise than the new crop of sony sensors. I'm just hoping pentax has something really good baking in the oven for this fall.

Yeah, I think the K-z will be pretty much a slightly improved K-01, but with the standard DSLR setup.

**monochrome** · 03-21-2012, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by sjwaldron

That Impress Japan magazine interview that came out a few months ago had the guy stating that all DSLRs moving forward would have 100% viewfinders.

If so, great, but wasn't that guy the chief engineer speaking not from actual information but from what he would do if he were making the decisions? I thought he expressly said that as a preface to the interview. At any rate, the link is somewhere on the Forum - maybe we can dig it up.

03-21-2012, 01:15 PM	#21
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Remember the "Q" ... in French !!! Bonjour, Oui, this is shameless re-posting of my previous post, but ... REMEMBER THE "Q" !!! https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/149631-dont-say-pentax...nch-q-cul.html Will history repeat itself, again and again ... ?! Salut, John le Frog

03-21-2012, 01:22 PM	#24
Jean Poitiers Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Lost in translation ... Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 18,076	Try it without smirking ... Originally posted by JinDesu So what do you call the Q in France? "A Royale with cheese" Bonsoir, We say "cul" ... et voila! Cheers, J

03-21-2012, 01:32 PM	#25
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by gazonk What's the best guess on specs? Similar to K-01 except for mirror/OVF? 100% OVF (hinted by Pentax executive)? Originally posted by JinDesu It would be very interesting and weird if they used the k-5 sensor in the k-r replacement. I, for one, hope not though - only because if it has a new sensor it means Pentax has been looking around the sensor playing fields. This isn't the K-5 replacement. Penta-mirror, not mirror-prism; Probably not 100%, [EDIT: in the Kitazawa interview linked in a following post he states Pentax wants even entry-level cameras to be full coverage] but K-01 focus peaking LiveView K-3 will be 100% mirror-prism 1:1 magnification, or close and improved LiveView with colors 16.3 Mp CMOS sensor same as K-01, plus PRIME-M imaging engine K-3 will have the new sensor (24Mp?) and maybe an improved PRIME-M; maybe improved PDAF autofocus Same K-01 video output (limitations) K-3 maybe HDMI monitor output Last edited by monochrome; 03-21-2012 at 04:12 PM.

03-21-2012, 01:35 PM	#27
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	Originally posted by monochrome This isn't the K-5 replacement. Penta-mirror, not mirror-prism; Probably not 100%, but K-01 fcus peaking LiveView K-3 will be 100% mirror-prism 1:1 magnification, or close and improved LiveView with colors 16.3 Mp CMOS sensor same as K-01, plus PRIME-M imaging engine K-3 will have the new sensor (24Mp?) and maybe an improved PRIME-M; maybe improved PDAF autofocus Same K-01 video output (limitations) K-3 maybe HDMI monitor output That Impress Japan magazine interview that came out a few months ago had the guy stating that all DSLRs moving forward would have 100% viewfinders.

03-21-2012, 12:47 PM	#16
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	What's the best guess on specs? Similar to K-01 except for mirror/OVF? 100% OVF (hinted by Pentax executive)?

03-21-2012, 12:49 PM	#17
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by eddie1960 that huge colour variation for marketing will be for the japanese market only. custom orders are not viable for worldwide distribution That is tremendously sad, as there goes my yellow-green combination abomination that I was going to make But it'd be interesting to see some of their more serious color combinations. Black and white is always a great combo. Grey and black too. Red and black. Originally posted by gazonk What's the best guess on specs? Similar to K-01 except for mirror/OVF? 100% OVF (hinted by Pentax executive)? It would be very interesting and weird if they used the k-5 sensor in the k-r replacement. I, for one, hope not though - only because if it has a new sensor it means Pentax has been looking around the sensor playing fields.

03-21-2012, 12:52 PM	#18
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by JinDesu That is tremendously sad, as there goes my yellow-green combination abomination that I was going to make But it'd be interesting to see some of their more serious color combinations. Black and white is always a great combo. Grey and black too. Red and black. I'm guessing we may see no more than 4-5 variations over here It would be nice if they opened it up to orders worldwide for people who don't mind paying full MSRP for something unique

03-21-2012, 01:07 PM	#19
elho_cid Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Prague Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	Originally posted by Docrwm The Germans will not be happy. Germans that don't like Pentax will call it nazi phone, but german Pentaxians will like it. They will Kai-Zer or whatever positive they can relate to in history.

03-21-2012, 01:11 PM	#20
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by elho_cid Germans that don't like Pentax will call it nazi phone, but german Pentaxians will like it. They will Kai-Zer or whatever positive they can relate to in history. I really like this. I changed my mind, it's no longer the Kay-Zed to me; it is now Kai-Zer!

03-21-2012, 01:16 PM - 1 Like	#22
JinDesu Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: New York City Photos: Gallery Posts: 5,638	Originally posted by John Poitiers Bonjour, Oui, this is shameless re-posting of my previous post, but ... REMEMBER THE "Q" !!! https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/149631-dont-say-pentax...nch-q-cul.html Will history repeat itself, again and again ... ?! Salut, John le Frog So what do you call the Q in France? "A Royale with cheese"

03-21-2012, 01:18 PM	#23
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by JinDesu I really like this. I changed my mind, it's no longer the Kay-Zed to me; it is now Kai-Zer! the beginning of Pentax's grand imperial design to dominate the world bwahahaha,

03-21-2012, 01:35 PM	#26
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	These promotional documents look like total amateur hour to me. Looks like fake BS.

03-21-2012, 01:36 PM	#28
zosxavius Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Somewhere, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 458	Originally posted by JinDesu That is tremendously sad, as there goes my yellow-green combination abomination that I was going to make But it'd be interesting to see some of their more serious color combinations. Black and white is always a great combo. Grey and black too. Red and black. It would be very interesting and weird if they used the k-5 sensor in the k-r replacement. I, for one, hope not though - only because if it has a new sensor it means Pentax has been looking around the sensor playing fields. Why use a new sensor when they have the m prime engine already developed for the k-01 sensor? The k-7 trickled down into the k-r. I would imagine that the sequel has elements from the k-5 to keep costs down. Just my theory. I still think the k-5 sensor was a major breakthrough in aps sensors and see no reason why not to use it. It still has lower noise than the new crop of sony sensors. I'm just hoping pentax has something really good baking in the oven for this fall.

03-21-2012, 01:39 PM	#29
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	Originally posted by zosxavius Why use a new sensor when they have the m prime engine already developed for the k-01 sensor? The k-7 trickled down into the k-r. I would imagine that the sequel has elements from the k-5 to keep costs down. Just my theory. I still think the k-5 sensor was a major breakthrough in aps sensors and see no reason why not to use it. It still has lower noise than the new crop of sony sensors. I'm just hoping pentax has something really good baking in the oven for this fall. Yeah, I think the K-z will be pretty much a slightly improved K-01, but with the standard DSLR setup.

03-21-2012, 01:49 PM	#30
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by sjwaldron That Impress Japan magazine interview that came out a few months ago had the guy stating that all DSLRs moving forward would have 100% viewfinders. If so, great, but wasn't that guy the chief engineer speaking not from actual information but from what he would do if he were making the decisions? I thought he expressly said that as a preface to the interview. At any rate, the link is somewhere on the Forum - maybe we can dig it up.