Samsung GX-20

RMabo · 01-10-2008, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by blende8

Wrong.
The GX10 is almost identical to the K10. The differences are only cosmetic.

I believe Ben meant GX-20 in comparision with the new Pentax, not GX10 vs K10D.

RMabo · 01-10-2008, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by Philippos

The fact that all previous models shared every single thing.

Yes, simply because that when Samsung and Pentax signed the partnership, Pentax had models in the r&d and Samsung did not. It takes 2-3 years to develop a DSLR, it wasn't enough time for Samsung to make their own version so Pentax simply re-labeled their own DSLR's to Samsung.
When Samsung joined Pentax, the K10D design and features was already set. Samsung input on the K10D was only 10% (the DDR-memory comes from Samsung).

The parnership is about co-developing DSLR, so now is the time to release the first co-developed DSLR's. The previous ones were almost all Pentax. Of course many parts will still be the same, just like Fiat and Lancia or Audi and Skoda. But they may differ in features and implementation.

I wouldn't judge the new Pentax by the Samsung GX-20.

B051LjKo · 01-10-2008, 04:16 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

I believe Ben meant GX-20 in comparision with the new Pentax, not GX10 vs K10D.

Nope, he "compared" the actual lineup (GX10&K10D), and I dont agree with him, the differences between K10D&GX10 are negligible...

Originally posted by benjikan

The Samsung GX10 does not have all of the advanced features that the Pentax K10D has. Although similar there are some differences that are quite apparent.

Ben

Different firmware and PEF support doest not sound like "advanced features" to me...

B051LjKo · 01-10-2008, 04:19 AM

Originally posted by RMabo

I wouldn't judge the new Pentax by the Samsung GX-20.

We will know in a few days... GX20 leaked, K20D didn't... GX10 and K10 are identical... so people are having fun gossiping ;-), nothing wrong with that...

xp_98 · 01-10-2008, 04:56 AM

[QUOTE=Philippos;149655]WOW!!!
Those luck b@st@rds that have the K100D and The K110D don't really know what they have do they?
QUOTE]

Of course I do !

Although I only use 6 MPix (of the 100 available) most of the time...

Fototim · 01-10-2008, 04:59 AM

The GX-20 is now removed from the page.
The norwegian distributor has asked a norwegian site akam.no to remove an article based on the page.
Looks like an intended leak to me. Most likely we now know the basic specs of the new Samsung camera.
I wonder if Pentax will do the same.

Tim

Anastigmat · 01-10-2008, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by Busiko

I'm sorry, but that is a photo of the GX10 photoshoped

http://www.aronsen.no/inc/getimg2.asp?x=&y=&mode=0&id=1773

That is possible. The picture and the specs are no longer there.

Aronsen AS

RMabo · 01-10-2008, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by B051LjKo

Nope, he "compared" the actual lineup (GX10&K10D), and I dont agree with him, the differences between K10D&GX10 are negligible...

Different firmware and PEF support doest not sound like "advanced features" to me...

He wrote GX10, but he might have meant GX20 (the hand does not always writes what the mind thinks, just 10 minutes ago I wrote K10D at dpreview in a message where I actually meant the new Pentax and not the K10D, it is an easy misstake to do). We know that GX10 and K10D are essentially the same. It may be more differencies between GX20 and the new Pentax than between GX10 and K10D. When Samsung and Pentax signed their partnership, the K10D design and features were almost ready so it was too late for Samsung to have significant input on it. The new GX20/Pentax is the first co-developed bodies coming from the partnership, and it may be more things underneath the exterior than first meets the eye...

Anastigmat · 01-10-2008, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Fototim

The GX-20 is now removed from the page.
The norwegian distributor has asked a norwegian site akam.no to remove an article based on the page.
Looks like an intended leak to me. Most likely we now know the basic specs of the new Samsung camera.
I wonder if Pentax will do the same.

Tim

There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker.

Fototim · 01-10-2008, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by Anastigmat

There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker.

I see a patern here. Same or very similiar thing has happened before.

But, you are correct. There are many posibilities.

My conclusions are speculations.
I enjoy speculating. I think we all do. Otherwice we would not be part of the discusions in this channel of the forum

Tim

RMabo · 01-10-2008, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by Anastigmat

There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker.

I believe it was simply a misstake - the human factor.
Kind of reminds me when Pentax Sweden send out a newsmail about the *ist DL some days before the actual announcement.

lol101 · 01-10-2008, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by Anastigmat

There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker.

Yes, it could still be a 12MP APS-C Sony sensor... or a 14,6MP Sony FF sensor right?

(Sorry, could not resist

)

thibs · 01-10-2008, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by bentax

based on some comments dropped by some of the guys apparently in the know, the k20d will have a built in battery grip.

no it won't

pentkon52 · 01-10-2008, 10:44 AM

I'll just wait until they are released, then I'll know for sure.

Dave

Busiko · 01-10-2008, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Anastigmat

That is possible. The picture and the specs are no longer there.

Aronsen AS

No problem. Look at this link:

Samsung GX-20

01-10-2008, 06:43 AM	#85
Fototim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 268	Originally posted by Anastigmat There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker. I see a patern here. Same or very similiar thing has happened before. But, you are correct. There are many posibilities. My conclusions are speculations. I enjoy speculating. I think we all do. Otherwice we would not be part of the discusions in this channel of the forum Tim Last edited by Fototim; 01-10-2008 at 06:49 AM.

01-10-2008, 01:05 PM	#90
Busiko Guest	Samsung GX20 Originally posted by Anastigmat That is possible. The picture and the specs are no longer there. Aronsen AS No problem. Look at this link: Samsung GX-20

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01-10-2008, 03:52 AM	#76
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by blende8 Wrong. The GX10 is almost identical to the K10. The differences are only cosmetic. I believe Ben meant GX-20 in comparision with the new Pentax, not GX10 vs K10D.

01-10-2008, 04:02 AM	#77
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by Philippos The fact that all previous models shared every single thing. Yes, simply because that when Samsung and Pentax signed the partnership, Pentax had models in the r&d and Samsung did not. It takes 2-3 years to develop a DSLR, it wasn't enough time for Samsung to make their own version so Pentax simply re-labeled their own DSLR's to Samsung. When Samsung joined Pentax, the K10D design and features was already set. Samsung input on the K10D was only 10% (the DDR-memory comes from Samsung). The parnership is about co-developing DSLR, so now is the time to release the first co-developed DSLR's. The previous ones were almost all Pentax. Of course many parts will still be the same, just like Fiat and Lancia or Audi and Skoda. But they may differ in features and implementation. I wouldn't judge the new Pentax by the Samsung GX-20.

01-10-2008, 04:16 AM	#78
B051LjKo Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rijeka, Croatia Posts: 32	Originally posted by RMabo I believe Ben meant GX-20 in comparision with the new Pentax, not GX10 vs K10D. Nope, he "compared" the actual lineup (GX10&K10D), and I dont agree with him, the differences between K10D&GX10 are negligible... Originally posted by benjikan The Samsung GX10 does not have all of the advanced features that the Pentax K10D has. Although similar there are some differences that are quite apparent. Ben Different firmware and PEF support doest not sound like "advanced features" to me...

01-10-2008, 04:19 AM	#79
B051LjKo Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rijeka, Croatia Posts: 32	Originally posted by RMabo I wouldn't judge the new Pentax by the Samsung GX-20. We will know in a few days... GX20 leaked, K20D didn't... GX10 and K10 are identical... so people are having fun gossiping ;-), nothing wrong with that...

01-10-2008, 04:56 AM	#80
xp_98 New Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: France Posts: 7	[QUOTE=Philippos;149655]WOW!!! Those luck b@st@rds that have the K100D and The K110D don't really know what they have do they? QUOTE] Of course I do ! Although I only use 6 MPix (of the 100 available) most of the time...

01-10-2008, 04:59 AM	#81
Fototim Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 268	The GX-20 is now removed from the page. The norwegian distributor has asked a norwegian site akam.no to remove an article based on the page. Looks like an intended leak to me. Most likely we now know the basic specs of the new Samsung camera. I wonder if Pentax will do the same. Tim

01-10-2008, 05:32 AM	#82
Anastigmat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 126	Originally posted by Busiko I'm sorry, but that is a photo of the GX10 photoshoped http://www.aronsen.no/inc/getimg2.asp?x=&y=&mode=0&id=1773 That is possible. The picture and the specs are no longer there. Aronsen AS

01-10-2008, 05:32 AM	#83
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by B051LjKo Nope, he "compared" the actual lineup (GX10&K10D), and I dont agree with him, the differences between K10D&GX10 are negligible... Different firmware and PEF support doest not sound like "advanced features" to me... He wrote GX10, but he might have meant GX20 (the hand does not always writes what the mind thinks, just 10 minutes ago I wrote K10D at dpreview in a message where I actually meant the new Pentax and not the K10D, it is an easy misstake to do). We know that GX10 and K10D are essentially the same. It may be more differencies between GX20 and the new Pentax than between GX10 and K10D. When Samsung and Pentax signed their partnership, the K10D design and features were almost ready so it was too late for Samsung to have significant input on it. The new GX20/Pentax is the first co-developed bodies coming from the partnership, and it may be more things underneath the exterior than first meets the eye...

01-10-2008, 05:35 AM	#84
Anastigmat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Posts: 126	Originally posted by Fototim The GX-20 is now removed from the page. The norwegian distributor has asked a norwegian site akam.no to remove an article based on the page. Looks like an intended leak to me. Most likely we now know the basic specs of the new Samsung camera. I wonder if Pentax will do the same. Tim There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker.

01-10-2008, 06:49 AM	#86
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by Anastigmat There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker. I believe it was simply a misstake - the human factor. Kind of reminds me when Pentax Sweden send out a newsmail about the *ist DL some days before the actual announcement.

01-10-2008, 06:50 AM	#87
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Originally posted by Anastigmat There are many possibilities. The "leak" may have been intentional, or unintentional, or it may have been a page that was modified by a hacker. Yes, it could still be a 12MP APS-C Sony sensor... or a 14,6MP Sony FF sensor right? (Sorry, could not resist )

01-10-2008, 07:21 AM	#88
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by bentax based on some comments dropped by some of the guys apparently in the know, the k20d will have a built in battery grip. no it won't

01-10-2008, 10:44 AM	#89
pentkon52 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: York Region Canada Posts: 641	I'll just wait until they are released, then I'll know for sure. Dave