Samsung GX-20

mattedm · 01-09-2008, 10:14 AM

Found a link to the Pentax K20d's possible counterpart, it's around halfway down the page.

Aronsen AS

They are discussing it over at Steve's Digicams:

Samsung GX-20 specs and pic surfaced - Pentax / Samsung dSLR - Digital SLR Cameras - Steves-digicams.com Forums

Looks good, 14mp, ISO3200, and a PC sync.

Matt

cajuncutter · 01-09-2008, 10:24 AM

WEll at the current currency rate the price of that bad boy is roughly 1800 bucks. Ofcourse in Norway they pay much higher taxes on stuff so you probably could expect this camera in the states to be around 1200 to 1400. This probably means the K20D will be a couple hundred more. Pretty cool camera, will hae to get my Norwegian wife to translate some of the specs for me

lol101 · 01-09-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by mattedm

Found a link to the Pentax K20d's possible counterpart, it's around halfway down the page.

Aronsen AS

They are discussing it over at Steve's Digicams:

Samsung GX-20 specs and pic surfaced - Pentax / Samsung dSLR - Digital SLR Cameras - Steves-digicams.com Forums

Looks good, 14mp, ISO3200, and a PC sync.

Matt

Nice enough but some important specs are still missing: fps, bit depth, AF...

Slowly, it's becoming clearer... but the price tag, I prefer to ignore (much too high IMO)

Vil · 01-09-2008, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by lol101

Nice enough but some important specs are still missing: fps, bit depth, AF...

Slowly, it's becoming clearer... but the price tag, I prefer to ignore (much too high IMO)

The price is not much more than the original price of the K10D in Norway.

Tom M · 01-09-2008, 10:55 AM

Same stupid AF, AF.C, MF switch! That sucks!

And a 2.7" LCD, not 3" - though, if 2.7 means longer battery life, I'm all for it.

Ooh, and LiveView - Yippy! /sarcasm

thibs · 01-09-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Tom M

Same stupid AF, AF.C, MF switch! That sucks!

Well the coice is, that switch or no weather sealing ...

**Pål Jensen** · 01-09-2008, 11:06 AM

The price is about 10% more than the K10D. Very competitive.
However, it seems to be just a K10D with a new sensor and live view. Somewhat short of the expectations created here....

filmamigo · 01-09-2008, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Tom M

Same stupid AF, AF.C, MF switch! That sucks!

At least you have a switch. [sniff ... goes back to cradling my little *ist DL]

Vil · 01-09-2008, 11:10 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

However, it seems to be just a K10D with a new sensor and live view. Somewhat short of the expectations created here....

I don't get it either. The body looks exactly like the K10/GX10.

Kunzite · 01-09-2008, 11:13 AM

Well, I like the K10D, so I don't see why they should start from scratch with a new body...
And btw, it's not exactly the same. The back will be different, due to bigger LCD; but even on this picture you can see the pc-sync socket

Tom M · 01-09-2008, 11:14 AM

The switch is a pain in the arse. It needs to be larger and have a more positive lock when it's in the positions. It can be a rotary switch still, so they can use a o-ring seal but, it needs to be a better rotary switch imo.

Kaimarx · 01-09-2008, 11:23 AM

Wouldnt be surprised if the K20 came at a higher cost. Hoya themselves said that the k10 was too underpriced and on top of that the K20 is supposed to be a semi pro body so i wouldnt expect it to be a sweet deal (sub 1k) like the K10 was. Still in lew of the competition it still may be cheaper, just not that cheap.

Snowcat · 01-09-2008, 11:24 AM

Well, it looks exactly like my GX-10. It the pic is real, then perhaps it'll still be a clone of K20, like GX-10 is clone of K10. Not that it REALLY matters to me...
Still looks like a good thing. 14MP with (i suppose) much better 1600+ performance, and Liveview with (again I suppose) contrast-based focusing, which is very useful for near-ground shots.
Let's wait and see other specs

RMabo · 01-09-2008, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

The price is about 10% more than the K10D. Very competitive.
However, it seems to be just a K10D with a new sensor and live view. Somewhat short of the expectations created here....

How can you say that when the complete specifications has not been listed yet?

And how can you judge the new Pentax from a Samsung, we don't know yet how they will differ so it is a bit early to make judgements. Many seems to believe that the Samsung will be just another re-branded Pentax, but I'm not convinced. Samsung entered the K10D project too late to have input, this time they have had much more time to develop their own things so it is likely that the Samsung and new Pentax differs. Perhaps not so much in exterior design, but in specifications and features (and price of course).

We'll see later this month if the rumours about a Pentax product annonucement/press conference is true - then we can compare.

Now, we can only judge the known things about the new Samsung - and that is all we know.
There still lots of information not known yet.

RMabo · 01-09-2008, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Vil

I don't get it either. The body looks exactly like the K10/GX10.

So? The rumours has talked about the specifications, I have not seen rumours saying that the body would have a completely new exterior design.

And why would it need to have that? The K10D/GX-10 design is fine as it is IMHO.

01-09-2008, 10:14 AM	#1
mattedm New Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 4	Samsung GX-20 Found a link to the Pentax K20d's possible counterpart, it's around halfway down the page. Aronsen AS They are discussing it over at Steve's Digicams: Samsung GX-20 specs and pic surfaced - Pentax / Samsung dSLR - Digital SLR Cameras - Steves-digicams.com Forums Looks good, 14mp, ISO3200, and a PC sync. Matt

01-09-2008, 10:35 AM	#3
lol101 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Garennes sur Eure France Photos: Gallery Posts: 899	Yep! Looks like the K20D cousin! Originally posted by mattedm Found a link to the Pentax K20d's possible counterpart, it's around halfway down the page. Aronsen AS They are discussing it over at Steve's Digicams: Samsung GX-20 specs and pic surfaced - Pentax / Samsung dSLR - Digital SLR Cameras - Steves-digicams.com Forums Looks good, 14mp, ISO3200, and a PC sync. Matt Nice enough but some important specs are still missing: fps, bit depth, AF... Slowly, it's becoming clearer... but the price tag, I prefer to ignore (much too high IMO)

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01-09-2008, 10:24 AM	#2
cajuncutter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Louisiana Posts: 243	WEll at the current currency rate the price of that bad boy is roughly 1800 bucks. Ofcourse in Norway they pay much higher taxes on stuff so you probably could expect this camera in the states to be around 1200 to 1400. This probably means the K20D will be a couple hundred more. Pretty cool camera, will hae to get my Norwegian wife to translate some of the specs for me

01-09-2008, 10:49 AM	#4
Vil Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa CDN Photos: Gallery Posts: 76	Originally posted by lol101 Nice enough but some important specs are still missing: fps, bit depth, AF... Slowly, it's becoming clearer... but the price tag, I prefer to ignore (much too high IMO) The price is not much more than the original price of the K10D in Norway.

01-09-2008, 10:55 AM	#5
Tom M Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ Photos: Gallery Posts: 780	Same stupid AF, AF.C, MF switch! That sucks! And a 2.7" LCD, not 3" - though, if 2.7 means longer battery life, I'm all for it. Ooh, and LiveView - Yippy! /sarcasm

01-09-2008, 11:01 AM	#6
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Tom M Same stupid AF, AF.C, MF switch! That sucks! Well the coice is, that switch or no weather sealing ...

01-09-2008, 11:06 AM	#7
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	The price is about 10% more than the K10D. Very competitive. However, it seems to be just a K10D with a new sensor and live view. Somewhat short of the expectations created here....

01-09-2008, 11:09 AM	#8
filmamigo Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 797	Originally posted by Tom M Same stupid AF, AF.C, MF switch! That sucks! At least you have a switch. [sniff ... goes back to cradling my little *ist DL]

01-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#9
Vil Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ottawa CDN Photos: Gallery Posts: 76	Originally posted by Pål Jensen However, it seems to be just a K10D with a new sensor and live view. Somewhat short of the expectations created here.... I don't get it either. The body looks exactly like the K10/GX10.

01-09-2008, 11:13 AM	#10
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Well, I like the K10D, so I don't see why they should start from scratch with a new body... And btw, it's not exactly the same. The back will be different, due to bigger LCD; but even on this picture you can see the pc-sync socket

01-09-2008, 11:14 AM	#11
Tom M Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ Photos: Gallery Posts: 780	The switch is a pain in the arse. It needs to be larger and have a more positive lock when it's in the positions. It can be a rotary switch still, so they can use a o-ring seal but, it needs to be a better rotary switch imo.

01-09-2008, 11:23 AM	#12
Kaimarx Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Auckland Photos: Gallery Posts: 452	Wouldnt be surprised if the K20 came at a higher cost. Hoya themselves said that the k10 was too underpriced and on top of that the K20 is supposed to be a semi pro body so i wouldnt expect it to be a sweet deal (sub 1k) like the K10 was. Still in lew of the competition it still may be cheaper, just not that cheap.

01-09-2008, 11:24 AM	#13
Snowcat Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 239	Well, it looks exactly like my GX-10. It the pic is real, then perhaps it'll still be a clone of K20, like GX-10 is clone of K10. Not that it REALLY matters to me... Still looks like a good thing. 14MP with (i suppose) much better 1600+ performance, and Liveview with (again I suppose) contrast-based focusing, which is very useful for near-ground shots. Let's wait and see other specs

01-09-2008, 11:24 AM	#14
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by Pål Jensen The price is about 10% more than the K10D. Very competitive. However, it seems to be just a K10D with a new sensor and live view. Somewhat short of the expectations created here.... How can you say that when the complete specifications has not been listed yet? And how can you judge the new Pentax from a Samsung, we don't know yet how they will differ so it is a bit early to make judgements. Many seems to believe that the Samsung will be just another re-branded Pentax, but I'm not convinced. Samsung entered the K10D project too late to have input, this time they have had much more time to develop their own things so it is likely that the Samsung and new Pentax differs. Perhaps not so much in exterior design, but in specifications and features (and price of course). We'll see later this month if the rumours about a Pentax product annonucement/press conference is true - then we can compare. Now, we can only judge the known things about the new Samsung - and that is all we know. There still lots of information not known yet.

01-09-2008, 11:27 AM	#15
RMabo Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 845	Originally posted by Vil I don't get it either. The body looks exactly like the K10/GX10. So? The rumours has talked about the specifications, I have not seen rumours saying that the body would have a completely new exterior design. And why would it need to have that? The K10D/GX-10 design is fine as it is IMHO.