Pentax Unilateral Pricing Policy

Kunzite · 04-08-2012, 03:34 AM - **1 Like**

Jump! Jump! Now!

You Tube

(start from 2:00)
Don't wait 'till Photokina! There's a window of opportunity that is quickly closing... there are new products planned, actions are taken; soon, arguments seemingly valid now will start losing their sense - and you'll find yourself trapped, forever, with no way out.

Zaphodmonster · 04-08-2012, 04:02 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kunzite

(start from 2:00)

What! Why only from 2:00? You should have posted the whole episode I love Babylon 5! lol

Kunzite · 04-08-2012, 04:42 AM

My apologies.
Please, start from the beginning - series 1, episode 1. It's worth it, and you'll eventually get there

Zaphodmonster · 04-08-2012, 05:01 AM

Actually I've already seen the whole series and loved it, I was just excited to see a Babylon 5 reference here of all places!

Kennod · 04-08-2012, 05:30 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

I can save $1400 from Canon on one lens. I can buy a 7D for that. Pentax now has prices that make it *cheaper* for me to switch systems - buy a camera and a lens - rather than to expand my Pentax lens collection.

Really. Right now I could sell my lens portfolio, buy a Nikon 'pro' system with D800, and have money left over in the bank. I'd have a physically larger and heavier system, sure. I'd give up some prime-IQ but that would be overwhelmed by FF-IQ.

Sure. If that's what you want to do

**Fontan** · 04-08-2012, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by parsons

Haha i like how you put "I'm sure our pictures will improve as well" like it wasn't the most important thing in the first place.

Personally I think that is a stupid idea. At least wait until photokina- if that is a disappointment then fair enough, but I think that there is a lot of promise for it.

Ok, fine. Let us wait until photokina for yet more lame products and pricing. Then, let us have a mass exodus to other brands. Only then our pictures of falling leaves changing colors will be gorgeous.

ElJamoquio · 04-08-2012, 07:19 AM

Originally posted by Kennod

Sure. If that's what you want to do

I'd prefer to stay with Pentax. I hate Canon ergonomics. I dislike Pentax mistakes in the market.

**spartan** · 04-08-2012, 08:56 AM

I am going to leave pentax. Hard for me to say as I think the K5 is the best APSc. However,

1) They did a poor job marketing the k-01 (Should have been released with a set of XS lenses including a small 18=55)
I wont even get into the design but they should have used the Q design for the K-01

2) The price increase at a time when Ricoh should be attracting users to K mount

3) The Q should have been designed with a larger sensor.

4) the 645 D better have a follow up with a better (more Mpixel) sensor otherwise they will not have a system compared to the Nikon D800.

Oh and i refuse to defend or promote Pentax in any fora until these issues (mostly price and better lenses for the k-01) are rectified.

All of these make wonder about how long the system will be around. I dont want to be in a dead end.

If they don't rectify most of the above (the price increase in particular) I will leave. I have all the Lenses I need but I dont want to be part of a dead end. I will give it 2 months to see what happens then you will see a Bunch of K mount and 645 lenses hit the marketplace.

ElJamoquio · 04-08-2012, 09:07 AM

Why not wait until Photokina?

thibs · 04-08-2012, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

Why not wait until Photokina?

Because they want to be right. At Photokina they'll likely be proven wrong.

Asahiflex · 04-08-2012, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by spartan

I am going to leave pentax. Hard for me to say as I think the K5 is the best APSc. However,
If they don't rectify most of the above (the price increase in particular) I will leave. I have all the Lenses I need but I dont want to be part of a dead end. I will give it 2 months to see what happens then you will see a Bunch of K mount and 645 lenses hit the marketplace.

Frankly, you're taking it too seriously.

TomE · 04-08-2012, 09:50 AM

Because September is a long way to wait for a Cute or Trendy new product from Pentax and once again nothing serious.

Tom

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

Why not wait until Photokina?

riff · 04-08-2012, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Fontan

I think this is the opportunity we all have been waiting for. All signs are there; lame mirrorless, no FF, price hikes. It is time we all take a stand and jump ship. I am sure our pictures will improve as well. Let's do it. Let's switch brands.

Be a leader, go by yourself!

thibs · 04-08-2012, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by ennacac

Because September is a long way to wait for a Cute or Trendy new product from Pentax and once again nothing serious.

Tom

Who said nothing would come until then ?

parsons · 04-08-2012, 10:27 AM

i don't quite understand it..

things are only going to get better from here

thats the way i see it anyway...

04-08-2012, 08:56 AM	#563
spartan Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NJ, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 428	Open complaint to those who care to read from a fanboy I am going to leave pentax. Hard for me to say as I think the K5 is the best APSc. However, 1) They did a poor job marketing the k-01 (Should have been released with a set of XS lenses including a small 18=55) I wont even get into the design but they should have used the Q design for the K-01 2) The price increase at a time when Ricoh should be attracting users to K mount 3) The Q should have been designed with a larger sensor. 4) the 645 D better have a follow up with a better (more Mpixel) sensor otherwise they will not have a system compared to the Nikon D800. Oh and i refuse to defend or promote Pentax in any fora until these issues (mostly price and better lenses for the k-01) are rectified. All of these make wonder about how long the system will be around. I dont want to be in a dead end. If they don't rectify most of the above (the price increase in particular) I will leave. I have all the Lenses I need but I dont want to be part of a dead end. I will give it 2 months to see what happens then you will see a Bunch of K mount and 645 lenses hit the marketplace.

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04-08-2012, 04:02 AM - 1 Like	#557
Zaphodmonster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 151	Originally posted by Kunzite (start from 2:00) What! Why only from 2:00? You should have posted the whole episode I love Babylon 5! lol

04-08-2012, 04:42 AM	#558
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	My apologies. Please, start from the beginning - series 1, episode 1. It's worth it, and you'll eventually get there

04-08-2012, 05:01 AM	#559
Zaphodmonster Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 151	Actually I've already seen the whole series and loved it, I was just excited to see a Babylon 5 reference here of all places!

04-08-2012, 05:30 AM	#560
Kennod Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Melbourne Posts: 126	Originally posted by ElJamoquio I can save $1400 from Canon on one lens. I can buy a 7D for that. Pentax now has prices that make it cheaper for me to switch systems - buy a camera and a lens - rather than to expand my Pentax lens collection. Really. Right now I could sell my lens portfolio, buy a Nikon 'pro' system with D800, and have money left over in the bank. I'd have a physically larger and heavier system, sure. I'd give up some prime-IQ but that would be overwhelmed by FF-IQ. Sure. If that's what you want to do

04-08-2012, 07:03 AM	#561
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	Originally posted by parsons Haha i like how you put "I'm sure our pictures will improve as well" like it wasn't the most important thing in the first place. Personally I think that is a stupid idea. At least wait until photokina- if that is a disappointment then fair enough, but I think that there is a lot of promise for it. Ok, fine. Let us wait until photokina for yet more lame products and pricing. Then, let us have a mass exodus to other brands. Only then our pictures of falling leaves changing colors will be gorgeous.

04-08-2012, 07:19 AM	#562
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Kennod Sure. If that's what you want to do I'd prefer to stay with Pentax. I hate Canon ergonomics. I dislike Pentax mistakes in the market.

04-08-2012, 09:07 AM	#564
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Why not wait until Photokina?

04-08-2012, 09:40 AM	#565
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by ElJamoquio Why not wait until Photokina? Because they want to be right. At Photokina they'll likely be proven wrong.

04-08-2012, 09:44 AM	#566
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	Originally posted by spartan I am going to leave pentax. Hard for me to say as I think the K5 is the best APSc. However, If they don't rectify most of the above (the price increase in particular) I will leave. I have all the Lenses I need but I dont want to be part of a dead end. I will give it 2 months to see what happens then you will see a Bunch of K mount and 645 lenses hit the marketplace. Frankly, you're taking it too seriously.

04-08-2012, 09:50 AM	#567
TomE Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 299	Because September is a long way to wait for a Cute or Trendy new product from Pentax and once again nothing serious. Tom Originally posted by ElJamoquio Why not wait until Photokina?

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04-08-2012, 10:10 AM	#568
riff Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,408	Originally posted by Fontan I think this is the opportunity we all have been waiting for. All signs are there; lame mirrorless, no FF, price hikes. It is time we all take a stand and jump ship. I am sure our pictures will improve as well. Let's do it. Let's switch brands. Be a leader, go by yourself!

04-08-2012, 10:13 AM	#569
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by ennacac Because September is a long way to wait for a Cute or Trendy new product from Pentax and once again nothing serious. Tom Who said nothing would come until then ?

04-08-2012, 10:27 AM	#570
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	i don't quite understand it.. things are only going to get better from here thats the way i see it anyway...