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04-13-2012, 06:58 AM - 1 Like   #196
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Bad idea... I've seen this strategem attempted on PC enthusiast forums, and once your cover is blown (and it will be, eventually) not only are you a pariah, but your employer suffers during the backlash.
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Bonjour,

"Pissed" ... maybe, getting closer and closer to that stage.

"Frustrated" ... definitely, because "crap" like this just gets old ... best to keep one's hands off the keyboard as opposed to stirring up a possible sh*t storm by writing promises that cannot (or will not) be honored = super backfire PR ... like we wouldn't notice, didn't care or couldn't count the days.

It was written ... "hopefully early next week" - well, that's come and gone ... Maybe "hopefully in two weeks" ... or maybe "hopefully in three weeks" ... or maybe "hopefully in four weeks" ... or maybe "hopefully in five weeks" ... or maybe "hopefully in six weeks" ... or maybe "hopefully in seven weeks" ... or maybe "hopefully in n + x weeks", etc.

Allez et bon courage, John le "Grumpy" Frog

I wouldn't hold your breath. :P
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I wouldn't hold your breath. :P
Bonjour zosxavius,

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I sometimes worry that I will be discovered as a Squirrel Enthusiast, but so far I've managed to remain viewed as just a "normal guy".
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I don't think anyone here thinks you are a "normal guy", Rupert!

Thank God for eccentrics, and people who know how important it is to have fun.

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I general I have been politely critical of Ned Bunnell and John Carlson and their management of Pentax USA since 2009. I believe they raced to the bottom with the BigBox strategy, allowing unreasonable price competition and basically outsourcing virtually all the business functions of the company, including public and customer relations.

I also made some posts several pages back (and on other threads) opining that the President of a division of a public company shouldn't have a public blog at all, and absolutely shouldn't publicly blog about the company or policies. I suggested the President's position is a priviledge and the role is to manage managers, such that a professional press relations officer - not the President of the company - should be managing the public discussion of this business model change.

With the priviledge and the responsibility there is a cost - the loss of some otherwise assumed freedoms, such as the freedom to have a personal blog, because the risk of such is greater for the company than any potential benefit.

I was pretty roundly criticized for these opinions by posters who think Ned is a great photographer and a really nice guy - and why shouldn't he blog?

In about 6 hours I am going to rest my case.
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I general I have been politely critical of Ned Bunnell and John Carlson and their management of Pentax USA since 2009. I believe they raced to the bottom with the BigBox strategy, allowing unreasonable price competition and basically outsourcing virtually all the business functions of the company, including public and customer relations.

I also made some posts several pages back (and on other threads) opining that the President of a division of a public company shouldn't have a public blog at all, and absolutely shouldn't publicly blog about the company or policies. I suggested the President's position is a priviledge and the role is to manage managers, such that a professional press relations officer - not the President of the company - should be managing the public discussion of this business model change.

With the priviledge and the responsibility there is a cost - the loss of some otherwise assumed freedoms, such as the freedom to have a personal blog, because the risk of such is greater for the company than any potential benefit.

I was pretty roundly criticized for these opinions by posters who think Ned is a great photographer and a really nice guy - and why shouldn't he blog?

In about 6 hours I am going to rest my case.
You and I have disagreed before but on those points I was, and am, in complete agreement with you. I also expect when someone in a position of authority says they will do something that they ought to do what they promised. Frankly, he should not have brought up the subject of the price increases in his blog (shouldn't have one as you said but he does and did) but since he raised the issue and then spontaneously offered that he would comment on it I believe that he should keep his word. I'm old fashioned that way.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Docrwm Quote
You and I have disagreed before but on those points I was, and am, in complete agreement with you. I also expect when someone in a position of authority says they will do something that they ought to do what they promised. Frankly, he should not have brought up the subject of the price increases in his blog (shouldn't have one as you said but he does and did) but since he raised the issue and then spontaneously offered that he would comment on it I believe that he should keep his word. I'm old fashioned that way.
Agreed, he should have kept his mouth shut until he posted a response, but reality is this should not be something he does in a blog, it should be a response from a Pentax PR person. The fact that he still hasn't posted a week later means he is now hurting the company image. OTOH it's possible after he posted that he got smacked down by someone higher up the food chain in Japan and there will never be a post
EDIT ; or option 3 they are still translating it into bureaucratic pr baffle gab to ensure it says absolutely nothing
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Agreed, he should have kept his mouth shut until he posted a response, but reality is this should not be something he does in a blog, it should be a response from a Pentax PR person. The fact that he still hasn't posted a week later means he is now hurting the company image. OTOH it's possible after he posted that he got smacked down by someone higher up the food chain in Japan and there will never be a post
EDIT ; or option 3 they are still translating it into bureaucratic pr baffle gab to ensure it says absolutely nothing
Hysterical Also known as dazzle them with b.s. and slip through a door.

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:Hysterical: Also known as dazzle them with b.s. and slip through a door.
the tried and true snake oil sales method. if it worked for great grand pappy it works for me
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What the French might say ...

QuoteOriginally posted by Blue Quote
:Hysterical: Also known as dazzle them with b.s. and slip through a door.
Bonjour tout le monde,

An appropriate French saying would be "noyer le poisson" ... pouring it on in order to "drown the fish"!

Allez et courage, J Frog ... who can swim, too!
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"No need" for the buzzer to sound ... or maybe "no Ned" ...

QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
I general I have been politely critical of Ned Bunnell and John Carlson and their management of Pentax USA since 2009. I believe they raced to the bottom with the BigBox strategy, allowing unreasonable price competition and basically outsourcing virtually all the business functions of the company, including public and customer relations.

I also made some posts several pages back (and on other threads) opining that the President of a division of a public company shouldn't have a public blog at all, and absolutely shouldn't publicly blog about the company or policies. I suggested the President's position is a priviledge and the role is to manage managers, such that a professional press relations officer - not the President of the company - should be managing the public discussion of this business model change.

With the priviledge and the responsibility there is a cost - the loss of some otherwise assumed freedoms, such as the freedom to have a personal blog, because the risk of such is greater for the company than any potential benefit.

I was pretty roundly criticized for these opinions by posters who think Ned is a great photographer and a really nice guy - and why shouldn't he blog?

In about 6 hours I am going to rest my case.
Game over and the case is already closed ... maybe Lecia needs a full-timer ...

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QuoteOriginally posted by eddie1960 Quote
Agreed, he should have kept his mouth shut until he posted a response, but reality is this should not be something he does in a blog, it should be a response from a Pentax PR person. The fact that he still hasn't posted a week later means he is now hurting the company image. OTOH it's possible after he posted that he got smacked down by someone higher up the food chain in Japan and there will never be a post
EDIT ; or option 3 they are still translating it into bureaucratic pr baffle gab to ensure it says absolutely nothing
Oh come on, I thought saying nothing was a job requirement for any corporate type worth their salary.
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Wow. That's just embarrassing if you ask me. Well, shows you all how much Pentax Japan cares about its US division. Time to clean house and put things back in order.
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Game over and the case is already closed ... maybe Lecia needs a full-timer ...
Maybe Ned got another one of those special packages. Only this one was one from Japan with one of those special daggers.


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Maybe Ned got another one of those special packages. Only this one was one from Japan with one of those special daggers.

Nah, just reassigned to a different Pentax Region. He's now Pentax Executive in Charge of Regional Development for Belize or some such.......
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