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**boriscleto** · 04-11-2012, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by konraDarnok

If they started producing cameras that ran on android they'd hit a home run . A lot of manufacturers really just don't grasp the power of software communities that spring up around open source platforms.

Android isn't open source. If this thing doesn't run Debian it will be a total fail.

farhagh · 04-11-2012, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Philoslothical

If it won't seamlessly connect to my toaster, I'm gonna be pissed. I need to be able to print directly to bread, damnit.

And don't tell me to wait for a firmware update to have it trigger my coffee maker, either.

Wow, that would be nice. What if it has a predictable algorithm so that it triggers your coffeemaker just in time to have the coffee ready exactly when the commercials on TV start?

Kunzite · 04-11-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Android isn't open source. If this thing doesn't run Debian it will be a total fail.

I want a command line and a C compiler on that thing. It doesn't even need a graphical mode, pictures (and movies, live view) can be seen as ASCII art

RioRico · 04-11-2012, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Saw it on another blog, people were joyfully thinking that would be the only camera Pentax will ever make...

If it's a wild success, Pentax won't NEED to ever make any other cameras. Watch out!

**RuiC** · 04-11-2012, 11:32 AM

Maybe they are referring to this:

United States Patent Application: 0070288974

parsons · 04-11-2012, 11:33 AM

Q mount would make sense- it would mean that there was a better reason to have those 'toy' lenses.
people uploading to Facebook aren't bothered about image quality (partly i bet because FB dilutes any sort of sharpness). what they are after is cool effects and photos of boring things made more interesting.

the instagram buying by Facebook would be something they could hope to tap into.
instagram runs on android now doesn't it?
this could be very very good

>>> well lets hope that they manage to finally hit the nail on the head properly with something

parsons · 04-11-2012, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by RuiC

Maybe they are referring to this:

United States Patent Application: 0070288974

that lot doesn't make any sense to me...
does that mean basically that they have patented a wifi connecting camera?

this new camera just about to come out by samsung apparently has WLAN connectivity.

http://photorumors.com/2012/04/10/samsung-nx20-shows-up-at-the-fcc/

i think that internet connected cameras will be the next big thing

Medium FormatPro · 04-11-2012, 11:40 AM

Let me first clearly state I'm not a licensed legal professional, but...

In my 200++ college credits; quite the numbers of those are in law; from 501 level classes to 699 ones.

It would be to my understanding of patent law that... One could not have just one patent (or series of) that would cover every variation of a WiFi connecting camera. That would be about the same as patenting charger devices for cameras - in general.

**RuiC** · 04-11-2012, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Let me first clearly state I'm not a licensed legal professional, but...

In my 200++ college credits; quite the numbers of those are in law; from 501 level classes to 699 ones.

It would be to my understanding of patent law that... One could not have just one patent (or series of) that would cover every variation of a WiFi connecting camera. That would be about the same as patenting charger devices for cameras - in general.

I am sure there must be a patent somewhere for those camera chargers as well!

gazonk · 04-11-2012, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

Android isn't open source. If this thing doesn't run Debian it will be a total fail.

But with the release frequency of Debian, we would have to wait 3 years after the camera is released to get a stable release for it

beholder3 · 04-11-2012, 12:29 PM

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**monochrome** · 04-11-2012, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Kunzite

I want a command line and a C compiler on that thing. It doesn't even need a graphical mode, pictures (and movies, live view) can be seen as ASCII art

Hah! I actually had to use the command prompt to resolve a monitor issue just now. Heaven knows how I remembered control, but it worked.

**monochrome** · 04-11-2012, 01:09 PM

Well I hope it stays connected to my WiFi better than that damned All-In-One I have. (Hey - reboot the printer, will you please?)

glanglois · 04-11-2012, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

Let me first clearly state I'm not a licensed legal professional, but...

In my 200++ college credits; quite the numbers of those are in law; from 501 level classes to 699 ones.

It would be to my understanding of patent law that... One could not have just one patent (or series of) that would cover every variation of a WiFi connecting camera. That would be about the same as patenting charger devices for cameras - in general.

It would like patenting one-click ordering. Oh, never mind.

ElJamoquio · 04-11-2012, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Philoslothical

And don't tell me to wait for a firmware update to have it trigger my coffee maker, either.

I keep getting Error 418 when I try to get it to start brewing.

04-11-2012, 11:32 AM	#20
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Internet camera Maybe they are referring to this: United States Patent Application: 0070288974

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04-11-2012, 09:36 AM	#16
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,477	Originally posted by konraDarnok If they started producing cameras that ran on android they'd hit a home run . A lot of manufacturers really just don't grasp the power of software communities that spring up around open source platforms. Android isn't open source. If this thing doesn't run Debian it will be a total fail.

04-11-2012, 09:47 AM	#17
farhagh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ohio Photos: Albums Posts: 339	Originally posted by Philoslothical If it won't seamlessly connect to my toaster, I'm gonna be pissed. I need to be able to print directly to bread, damnit. And don't tell me to wait for a firmware update to have it trigger my coffee maker, either. Wow, that would be nice. What if it has a predictable algorithm so that it triggers your coffeemaker just in time to have the coffee ready exactly when the commercials on TV start?

04-11-2012, 11:05 AM	#18
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by boriscleto Android isn't open source. If this thing doesn't run Debian it will be a total fail. I want a command line and a C compiler on that thing. It doesn't even need a graphical mode, pictures (and movies, live view) can be seen as ASCII art

04-11-2012, 11:27 AM	#19
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Originally posted by Kunzite Saw it on another blog, people were joyfully thinking that would be the only camera Pentax will ever make... If it's a wild success, Pentax won't NEED to ever make any other cameras. Watch out!

04-11-2012, 11:33 AM	#21
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	Q mount would make sense- it would mean that there was a better reason to have those 'toy' lenses. people uploading to Facebook aren't bothered about image quality (partly i bet because FB dilutes any sort of sharpness). what they are after is cool effects and photos of boring things made more interesting. the instagram buying by Facebook would be something they could hope to tap into. instagram runs on android now doesn't it? this could be very very good >>> well lets hope that they manage to finally hit the nail on the head properly with something

04-11-2012, 11:35 AM	#22
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	Originally posted by RuiC Maybe they are referring to this: United States Patent Application: 0070288974 that lot doesn't make any sense to me... does that mean basically that they have patented a wifi connecting camera? this new camera just about to come out by samsung apparently has WLAN connectivity. http://photorumors.com/2012/04/10/samsung-nx20-shows-up-at-the-fcc/ i think that internet connected cameras will be the next big thing

04-11-2012, 11:40 AM	#23
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Let me first clearly state I'm not a licensed legal professional, but... In my 200++ college credits; quite the numbers of those are in law; from 501 level classes to 699 ones. It would be to my understanding of patent law that... One could not have just one patent (or series of) that would cover every variation of a WiFi connecting camera. That would be about the same as patenting charger devices for cameras - in general.

04-11-2012, 11:50 AM	#24
RuiC Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lisboa - The best destination in Europe Posts: 633	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Let me first clearly state I'm not a licensed legal professional, but... In my 200++ college credits; quite the numbers of those are in law; from 501 level classes to 699 ones. It would be to my understanding of patent law that... One could not have just one patent (or series of) that would cover every variation of a WiFi connecting camera. That would be about the same as patenting charger devices for cameras - in general. I am sure there must be a patent somewhere for those camera chargers as well!

04-11-2012, 12:11 PM	#25
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by boriscleto Android isn't open source. If this thing doesn't run Debian it will be a total fail. But with the release frequency of Debian, we would have to wait 3 years after the camera is released to get a stable release for it

04-11-2012, 01:06 PM	#27
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by Kunzite I want a command line and a C compiler on that thing. It doesn't even need a graphical mode, pictures (and movies, live view) can be seen as ASCII art Hah! I actually had to use the command prompt to resolve a monitor issue just now. Heaven knows how I remembered control, but it worked.

04-11-2012, 01:09 PM	#28
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Well I hope it stays connected to my WiFi better than that damned All-In-One I have. (Hey - reboot the printer, will you please?)

04-11-2012, 02:40 PM	#29
glanglois Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Madison, Wis., USA Posts: 1,506	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro Let me first clearly state I'm not a licensed legal professional, but... In my 200++ college credits; quite the numbers of those are in law; from 501 level classes to 699 ones. It would be to my understanding of patent law that... One could not have just one patent (or series of) that would cover every variation of a WiFi connecting camera. That would be about the same as patenting charger devices for cameras - in general. It would like patenting one-click ordering. Oh, never mind.

04-11-2012, 03:18 PM	#30
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Philoslothical And don't tell me to wait for a firmware update to have it trigger my coffee maker, either. I keep getting Error 418 when I try to get it to start brewing.

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