Originally posted by Pål Jensen The point is that the 25mm owns its existence to the fact that the 645D has a cropped sensor and hence, a wider lens than the 35mm was needed in the line-up. There was no 25mm for the film 645 system and probably very few missed one.
I'd rather have an FF 645D than a 25mm lens....
The 645 system was actually marketed and designed as an alternative to 35mm. However, with a 1,4kg camera and a 1kg wideangle lens + the other lenses you'll need, the 645 system has gone from portable to something that is not.
Pentax main competition is not not Hasselblad and the like as they don't sell to anyone anyway, but Nikon and Canon FF....
True the 25 is in existence due to the crop. They also endeavored to make it a FF lens (without success for the most part so they made it a crop design to get it out, though I'm not sure much of the design changed more the idea it is a good crop lens. given the widest from the others aren't even as wide as this lens (28 versus 25) but they are FF AFAIK it may have been better to target an asph 30 that was sharp edge to edge on FF looking to the future
My main point was however hat it is not priced unrealistically versus its comp set which is MF not 35MM. it's really only the introduction of the D800 that even makes it an issue though. An update that breaks ground as an affordable FF 645 (and therefore 60-80MP assumed) addresses the issue. Keeping the 645D around as a low cost (relative to the market) entry makes sense as long as they can get the sensors (so a few more years I bet)
MF was never a big market compared to 35MM. In digital it's even more marginalized because some of the 35MM is truly astounding. But there is a client subset.
You may think hassy/Mamiya/Phase don't sell much but i think they actually sell a fair bit within their subset of the market. As an example within a 20 minute walk of my house downtown Toronto I can get to 4 phase/mamiya dealers and 3 hassy ones and 2 Pentax MF ones and 1 Leica S2 dealer.
But we are a large market with a vibrant Advertising photo industry so maybe I get a warped view.
A agree they need to address the launch of a camera like the D800 but I think a Sensor upgrade is a more viable answer. the MF cameras will never compete with the versatility of the Niko canon Systems (or for that matter even the Sony and Pentax ones)
For me if I want to shoot MF look I will stick to MF film. I just can't justify the digital cost because i don't sell into the market that would pay for it.