Lens prices and our channel strategy in the U.S. - Ned Responses

Cannikin · 06-09-2012, 06:28 PM

Amazon has just dropped their prices to be in line with B&H's. Looks like the new prices are official.

**Fontan** · 06-09-2012, 07:28 PM

My guess is that the sales dropped significantly . . . .

kenafein · 06-09-2012, 07:32 PM

That is good news. It's too bad they had to cause all that ill will for just two months. The market has been inundated with people liquidating their pentax equipment.

ElJamoquio · 06-09-2012, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Fontan

My guess is that the sales dropped significantly . . . .

Sales dropped 100% on April 2nd but they've leveled off since.

Class A · 06-09-2012, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by kenafein

It's too bad they had to cause all that ill will for just two months.

Exactly. Inexcusable, if you ask me.

Kunzite · 06-09-2012, 10:59 PM

One month and 8 days - they should be skinned alive for that

ElJamoquio · 06-09-2012, 11:15 PM

I wouldn't continue to employ a "President" who thought that strategy was a good idea.

Kunzite · 06-09-2012, 11:30 PM

Send your CV, I'm sure you're much better qualified

Unsinkable II · 06-10-2012, 05:23 AM

It was a RETARDED strategy.

It was supposed to reassure the retailers and instead has just compounded just how weak Pentax is.

While at the same time pissing off Pentax's end users, to the point that some have left, and most of the others have studied the competitive landscape and are far more aware of an exit strategy to a new mount.

This can't be viewed as anything other than a fail.

Kunzite · 06-10-2012, 05:48 AM

The internet is full of armchair experts. Do you even know what their strategy was/is? And their exact situation?

filorp · 06-10-2012, 05:54 AM

maybe it's the part of strategy: rising the price for short period and lowering it later on (it happened with Hoya too) - so that the customer think: wow! the price is good now, lets go shopping! This is final stage of retardation - am with Pentax 6 years now, and for me its signal: lets sell all of mine Pentax remainings, and change the brand!!!

mee · 06-10-2012, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by filorp

maybe it's the part of strategy: rising the price for short period and lowering it later on (it happened with Hoya too) - so that the customer think: wow! the price is good now, lets go shopping! This is final stage of retardation - am with Pentax 6 years now, and for me its signal: lets sell all of mine Pentax remainings, and change the brand!!!

That was my initial impression too... inflate the prices drastically high.. then after some period of time reduce them to a little higher than initial prices to make it look like a better deal..

It works for gasoline sales... the 'pro' camera industry is the same right? I mean there aren't competitors to turn to, right? hehehe..

I think with the responses seen on the price increases, we don't need a PhD or Masters in business or economics to see what type of an outcome their decision has made in simple morale for the company... much less financial. We're all consumers.. if we have this idea of the corporate side of Pentax, what is that going to equate to on the sales side?

I think their new products will really have to shine..

ElJamoquio · 06-10-2012, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

Send your CV, I'm sure you're much better qualified

Perhaps his hand was forced (and you'll notice I left him that out in my post). Nevertheless if he felt this was a good strategy, I believe many, many, many people are more qualified.

**Greeneg** · 06-10-2012, 12:20 PM

My Sunday paper this morning had inserts for both Canon and Nikon. The latter was touting the D800 at 36MP and $2999 and the D3200 at 24MP and $649. How does this help Pentax??

Kunzite · 06-10-2012, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by ElJamoquio

Perhaps his hand was forced (and you'll notice I left him that out in my post). Nevertheless if he felt this was a good strategy, I believe many, many, many people are more qualified.

Same question: do you even know what their strategy was/is? And their exact situation?

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06-09-2012, 06:28 PM	#661
Cannikin Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SW Washington Posts: 833	Amazon has just dropped their prices to be in line with B&H's. Looks like the new prices are official.

06-09-2012, 07:28 PM	#662
Fontan Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: 5th floor Posts: 1,610	My guess is that the sales dropped significantly . . . .

06-09-2012, 07:32 PM	#663
kenafein Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southern California Photos: Albums Posts: 4,082	That is good news. It's too bad they had to cause all that ill will for just two months. The market has been inundated with people liquidating their pentax equipment.

06-09-2012, 07:37 PM	#664
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Fontan My guess is that the sales dropped significantly . . . . Sales dropped 100% on April 2nd but they've leveled off since.

06-09-2012, 09:22 PM	#665
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by kenafein It's too bad they had to cause all that ill will for just two months. Exactly. Inexcusable, if you ask me.

06-09-2012, 10:59 PM	#666
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	One month and 8 days - they should be skinned alive for that

06-09-2012, 11:15 PM	#667
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	I wouldn't continue to employ a "President" who thought that strategy was a good idea.

06-09-2012, 11:30 PM	#668
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Send your CV, I'm sure you're much better qualified

06-10-2012, 05:23 AM	#669
Unsinkable II Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,352	It was a RETARDED strategy. It was supposed to reassure the retailers and instead has just compounded just how weak Pentax is. While at the same time pissing off Pentax's end users, to the point that some have left, and most of the others have studied the competitive landscape and are far more aware of an exit strategy to a new mount. This can't be viewed as anything other than a fail.

06-10-2012, 05:48 AM	#670
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The internet is full of armchair experts. Do you even know what their strategy was/is? And their exact situation?

06-10-2012, 05:54 AM	#671
filorp Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Aberdeen Scotland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 398	maybe it's the part of strategy: rising the price for short period and lowering it later on (it happened with Hoya too) - so that the customer think: wow! the price is good now, lets go shopping! This is final stage of retardation - am with Pentax 6 years now, and for me its signal: lets sell all of mine Pentax remainings, and change the brand!!!

06-10-2012, 06:12 AM	#672
mee Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 7,403	Originally posted by filorp maybe it's the part of strategy: rising the price for short period and lowering it later on (it happened with Hoya too) - so that the customer think: wow! the price is good now, lets go shopping! This is final stage of retardation - am with Pentax 6 years now, and for me its signal: lets sell all of mine Pentax remainings, and change the brand!!! That was my initial impression too... inflate the prices drastically high.. then after some period of time reduce them to a little higher than initial prices to make it look like a better deal.. It works for gasoline sales... the 'pro' camera industry is the same right? I mean there aren't competitors to turn to, right? hehehe.. I think with the responses seen on the price increases, we don't need a PhD or Masters in business or economics to see what type of an outcome their decision has made in simple morale for the company... much less financial. We're all consumers.. if we have this idea of the corporate side of Pentax, what is that going to equate to on the sales side? I think their new products will really have to shine..

06-10-2012, 11:49 AM	#673
ElJamoquio Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,873	Originally posted by Kunzite Send your CV, I'm sure you're much better qualified Perhaps his hand was forced (and you'll notice I left him that out in my post). Nevertheless if he felt this was a good strategy, I believe many, many, many people are more qualified.

06-10-2012, 12:20 PM	#674
Greeneg Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC United States Photos: Gallery Posts: 146	My Sunday paper this morning had inserts for both Canon and Nikon. The latter was touting the D800 at 36MP and $2999 and the D3200 at 24MP and $649. How does this help Pentax??

06-10-2012, 12:24 PM	#675
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by ElJamoquio Perhaps his hand was forced (and you'll notice I left him that out in my post). Nevertheless if he felt this was a good strategy, I believe many, many, many people are more qualified. Same question: do you even know what their strategy was/is? And their exact situation?