Originally posted by junyo I was responding specifically to the idea that the K01 was for anyone other than the existing Pentax user base, which you apparently agree with. I understand exactly why Pentax did it:
And I'm guy who hates Pentax, mind you. If they asked loyal customer buy an adapter with the camera, screw them, he's going to Nikon.
While Nikon&Canon users would be very happy being forced to buy adapters, in order to use their $$$$$ lenses, right?
"Loyalty" (well, it's not true loyalty - but preferring tools of a specific brand, and having some $$$$ on those - thus wanting continuity) has limits,
and it works both ways. I'm "loyal" to Pentax because I like their cameras & lenses, and Pentax is "loyal" to me because they want to keep their (K-mount) customers happy and spending.
Originally posted by junyo And that's why the existing Pentax user base is killing Pentax. As a company, it's long term suicide to survive on the whim of a bunch of people holding on to mountains of glass who want innovative new products at rock bottom prices. Pentax is going to introduce a new FF camera, the prime market for which have been squirreling away lenses for decades, which pretty much insures minor after purchase lens sales. Why exactly?
What on Earth are you talking about? What "whim"? Being happy with the continuation of the K-mount? Buying new K-mount products? And who said anything about "rock bottom prices"? FFS, I've bought the K-5 just after it was introduced, and my most expensive lens is a DA* 60-250 (while also owning few DA Limiteds).
OTOH, you're asking Pentax to completely change their product line, kill the K-mount and become another NEX-making Sony - while not offering any solid reasoning on all those great benefits you seem to believe to exist. I'd rather call this a "whim".
Originally posted by junyo Pentax isn't doing so great at DSLR's, unless 'success' means being a distant 3rd/4th and being so profitable you get sold every couple of years, and can't field a larger than 2 DSLR lineup, excluding your mega upmarket unit, that sells in tiny quantities. Sony, for a failure, has a better higher end camera lineup, actually makes money selling cameras, and makes money every time Pentax or Nikon sells a camera. So yeah, Pentax being Sony would be an upgrade from my prospective.
Pentax suffered from cost cutting and downsized R&D, while being owned by Hoya (this is changing as we speak). They did OK, given the circumstances.
Sony no longer makes DSLRs; their closest thing is the SLT (which could eventually be phased out, but so far it seems well enough supported). And their camera division is not the one making sensors, FYI.
Originally posted by junyo Again, this forum sometime verges on being a piece of performance art. I want Pentax that steals customers from other brands and is available everywhere. I want a Pentax that moves units by the boatload. And making niche products for a limited audience and then trying to mass market them isn't how any of that happens. Now back to your regularly scheduled jerking off about how Pentax's 5% and lack of retail outlets has Canikon running scared and how a 150MP FF (M42 mount, yay!) is being released tomorrow.
It seems you only want a cheaper NEX, otherwise you'll be already gone in the Sony camp (since that's The Way). However, spilling rude strawmans on this forum won't help a bit.