Pentax K30 Picture Leak & Discussion: Weather-sealed intro DSLR

VisualDarkness · 05-21-2012, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by ogl

As I understand there is no HDMI port.

Pentax says no HDMI and no Mic input.

Rard731 · 05-21-2012, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by kswier

I have to say, I am very impressed with Pentax. I have been thinking about switching to micro 4/3, because the small size complements my shooting style, but the k-30 will make me think twice. It seems like it is my k200D with all of the bugs fixed (i.e. high iso shooting, fast autofocus, pentaprism, autofocus light). Now the real question I have is whether the shutter will be quiet like the k-5 or loud like the k200D.

According to Pentax' John Carlson doing a Q&A on the dpreview Pentax forum the shutter sound is somewhere between the K-r and K-5.

Welfl · 05-21-2012, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by causey

Here's another one: Pentax K-30 Camera - Hands-On Preview

Thanks, Causey. I've only read a few paragraphs at your link so far, but I can already see that the writer is writing from an actual hands-on perspective.

I must go back and continue reading now. Thanks again!

P.S. The writer seems pretty excited to actually have one to review.

WerTicus · 05-21-2012, 08:20 PM

While im not that keen on the heatsink and focus assit light details the camera overall looks sex to me... especially in blue.

Plus that grip actually looks identical to the K-5....and the AF and wheel buttons are in the same spot on the K-5. Just been comparing it.

The only dumb thing about it that i can see is that they have changed what the directional keys do... so WB is down and not LEFT like on the K-5 which would make this camera as a 2nd body a PAIN IN THE ARSE.

Welfl · 05-21-2012, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by causey

Here's another one: Pentax K-30 Camera - Hands-On Preview

I encourage people to click the above link in causey's quote. It links to a very nice preview of the K-30 at Imaging Resource.

Very TrivIal P.S.: On Imaging Resource's K-30 Specs page, it is stated that the camera will come with SILKYPIX Developer Studio 3.0. I see that SILKYPIX Developer Studio 4.0 was released on April 27, 2012. Is it possible that the K-30 will come bundled with 4.0 by the time it actually starts shipping? Or will this be the same sort of situation as it is with scanner companies, wherein they always seem to bundle an older version of Adobe Photoshop Elements with their scanners, even though the newer version has been available for a long time?

Or, is it possible that new K-30 owners (among others) will be allowed to upgrade to 4.0 for free? Is 4.0 a significant upgrade over 3.0? I've never used the software before.

Blue · 05-21-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Welfl

I encourage people to click the above link in causey's quote. It links to a very nice preview of the K-30 at Imaging Resource.

Very TrivIal P.S.: On Imaging Resource's K-30 Specs page, it is stated that the camera will come with SILKYPIX Developer Studio 3.0. I see that SILKYPIX Developer Studio 4.0 was released on April 27, 2012. Is it possible that the K-30 will come bundled with 4.0 by the time it actually starts shipping? Or will this be the same sort of situation as it is with scanner companies, wherein they always seem to bundle an older version of Adobe Photoshop Elements with their scanners, even though the newer version has been available for a long time?

Or, is it possible that new K-30 owners (among others) will be allowed to upgrade to 4.0 for free? Is 4.0 a significant upgrade over 3.0? I've never used the software before.

Yes 4.33 is better than 3.0! In fact, it is usable whereas 3.x seemed to be terrible. I have actually been using 4.x version since very early 2009 with my K200d and K20d which I had got in 2008.

ogl · 05-21-2012, 09:14 PM

If K-30 will have better and more correct AF than K-5, it's reason to think about upgrade...
Anyway, I can upgrade only to FF camera.

WerTicus · 05-21-2012, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

-Is this the same Sony sensor as in the k-5 & k-1? I read, but wasn't sure.
-Robyn, The K-30 and K-01 use the same sensor. The K-5 uses an earlier version of this sensor.

The K-5 uses a superior sensor... makes choosing between K-5 and K-30 a lot easier in my book:

DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

assuming the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-30 anyway.

VisualDarkness · 05-21-2012, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by WerTicus

The K-5 uses a superior sensor... makes choosing between K-5 and K-30 a lot easier in my book:

DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

assuming the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-30 anyway.

Well it wasn't my words but Pentax.

WerTicus · 05-21-2012, 09:42 PM

Yeah i think a lot of people have just assumed the K-01 used the same sensor (including me). Clearly it is a cheaper version of the same sensor with smaller full well capacity and thus lower DR, which is the best thing about the K-5 sensor.

Of course we cant really assume that the K-30 will have the exact same sensor again either but it is more likely to have that than the K-5's more expensive sensor.

Anvh · 05-21-2012, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by WerTicus

The K-5 uses a superior sensor... makes choosing between K-5 and K-30 a lot easier in my book:

DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side

assuming the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-30 anyway.

Sensors are surely alike, it's the difference in processing and the filters on the sensor that makes this difference.

the K5 use 14 bit so it can hold more information useful for the dynamic range, the colours and the noise, beside that the K5 uses a heavier AA-filter meaning the photos are slightly less sharp but you get less artefacts and slightly less noise.

Welfl · 05-21-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally posted by Blue

Yes 4.33 is better than 3.0! In fact, it is usable whereas 3.x seemed to be terrible. I have actually been using 4.x version since very early 2009 with my K200d and K20d which I had got in 2008.

Thanks, Blue. I guess the incremental update to 4.33 is what came out on April 27. I just assumed 4.0 is new since 3.0 is listed as shipping with the 7.5-hour-old K-30. I find it amazing that such an old software version is going to be bundled with such a new camera.

Do you know if people who get 3.0 in a bundle with a new camera will be allowed to upgrade for free to 4.0? Some companies do that, but many others don't.

Thanks again.

brewer · 05-21-2012, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Anvh

Sensors are surely alike, it's the difference in processing and the filters on the sensor that makes this difference.

the K5 use 14 bit so it can hold more information useful for the dynamic range, the colours and the noise, beside that the K5 uses a heavier AA-filter meaning the photos are slightly less sharp but you get less artefacts and slightly less noise.

so techniccaly, sensors are almost the same ?

WerTicus · 05-22-2012, 12:20 AM

technically the results of the k-5 are better. not sure if the cause is a slightly different sensor or software or supporting electronics but the k-5 has more dynamic range.

twitch · 05-22-2012, 12:33 AM

The card up K-5's sleeve is ISO80, it makes a difference in the dxo graphs and got it "the win" over the Nikon D7000

05-21-2012, 09:13 PM	#876
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Welfl I encourage people to click the above link in causey's quote. It links to a very nice preview of the K-30 at Imaging Resource. Very TrivIal P.S.: On Imaging Resource's K-30 Specs page, it is stated that the camera will come with SILKYPIX Developer Studio 3.0. I see that SILKYPIX Developer Studio 4.0 was released on April 27, 2012. Is it possible that the K-30 will come bundled with 4.0 by the time it actually starts shipping? Or will this be the same sort of situation as it is with scanner companies, wherein they always seem to bundle an older version of Adobe Photoshop Elements with their scanners, even though the newer version has been available for a long time? Or, is it possible that new K-30 owners (among others) will be allowed to upgrade to 4.0 for free? Is 4.0 a significant upgrade over 3.0? I've never used the software before. Yes 4.33 is better than 3.0! In fact, it is usable whereas 3.x seemed to be terrible. I have actually been using 4.x version since very early 2009 with my K200d and K20d which I had got in 2008. Last edited by Blue; 05-21-2012 at 09:19 PM.

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05-21-2012, 08:08 PM	#871
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Originally posted by ogl As I understand there is no HDMI port. Pentax says no HDMI and no Mic input.

05-21-2012, 08:10 PM	#872
Rard731 New Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New England Posts: 9	Originally posted by kswier I have to say, I am very impressed with Pentax. I have been thinking about switching to micro 4/3, because the small size complements my shooting style, but the k-30 will make me think twice. It seems like it is my k200D with all of the bugs fixed (i.e. high iso shooting, fast autofocus, pentaprism, autofocus light). Now the real question I have is whether the shutter will be quiet like the k-5 or loud like the k200D. According to Pentax' John Carlson doing a Q&A on the dpreview Pentax forum the shutter sound is somewhere between the K-r and K-5.

05-21-2012, 08:13 PM	#873
Welfl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nebraska Posts: 281	Originally posted by causey Here's another one: Pentax K-30 Camera - Hands-On Preview Thanks, Causey. I've only read a few paragraphs at your link so far, but I can already see that the writer is writing from an actual hands-on perspective. I must go back and continue reading now. Thanks again! P.S. The writer seems pretty excited to actually have one to review.

05-21-2012, 08:20 PM	#874
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	While im not that keen on the heatsink and focus assit light details the camera overall looks sex to me... especially in blue. Plus that grip actually looks identical to the K-5....and the AF and wheel buttons are in the same spot on the K-5. Just been comparing it. The only dumb thing about it that i can see is that they have changed what the directional keys do... so WB is down and not LEFT like on the K-5 which would make this camera as a 2nd body a PAIN IN THE ARSE.

05-21-2012, 08:46 PM	#875
Welfl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nebraska Posts: 281	Originally posted by causey Here's another one: Pentax K-30 Camera - Hands-On Preview I encourage people to click the above link in causey's quote. It links to a very nice preview of the K-30 at Imaging Resource. Very TrivIal P.S.: On Imaging Resource's K-30 Specs page, it is stated that the camera will come with SILKYPIX Developer Studio 3.0. I see that SILKYPIX Developer Studio 4.0 was released on April 27, 2012. Is it possible that the K-30 will come bundled with 4.0 by the time it actually starts shipping? Or will this be the same sort of situation as it is with scanner companies, wherein they always seem to bundle an older version of Adobe Photoshop Elements with their scanners, even though the newer version has been available for a long time? Or, is it possible that new K-30 owners (among others) will be allowed to upgrade to 4.0 for free? Is 4.0 a significant upgrade over 3.0? I've never used the software before.

05-21-2012, 09:14 PM	#877
ogl Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sankt Peterburg Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,382	If K-30 will have better and more correct AF than K-5, it's reason to think about upgrade... Anyway, I can upgrade only to FF camera.

05-21-2012, 09:18 PM	#878
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	Originally posted by VisualDarkness -Is this the same Sony sensor as in the k-5 & k-1? I read, but wasn't sure. -Robyn, The K-30 and K-01 use the same sensor. The K-5 uses an earlier version of this sensor. The K-5 uses a superior sensor... makes choosing between K-5 and K-30 a lot easier in my book: DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side assuming the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-30 anyway.

05-21-2012, 09:35 PM	#879
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Originally posted by WerTicus The K-5 uses a superior sensor... makes choosing between K-5 and K-30 a lot easier in my book: DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side assuming the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-30 anyway. Well it wasn't my words but Pentax.

05-21-2012, 09:42 PM	#880
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	Yeah i think a lot of people have just assumed the K-01 used the same sensor (including me). Clearly it is a cheaper version of the same sensor with smaller full well capacity and thus lower DR, which is the best thing about the K-5 sensor. Of course we cant really assume that the K-30 will have the exact same sensor again either but it is more likely to have that than the K-5's more expensive sensor.

05-21-2012, 09:47 PM	#881
Anvh Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 4,616	Originally posted by WerTicus The K-5 uses a superior sensor... makes choosing between K-5 and K-30 a lot easier in my book: DxOMark - Compare cameras side by side assuming the K-01 uses the same sensor as the K-30 anyway. Sensors are surely alike, it's the difference in processing and the filters on the sensor that makes this difference. the K5 use 14 bit so it can hold more information useful for the dynamic range, the colours and the noise, beside that the K5 uses a heavier AA-filter meaning the photos are slightly less sharp but you get less artefacts and slightly less noise.

05-21-2012, 10:38 PM	#882
Welfl Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Nebraska Posts: 281	Originally posted by Blue Yes 4.33 is better than 3.0! In fact, it is usable whereas 3.x seemed to be terrible. I have actually been using 4.x version since very early 2009 with my K200d and K20d which I had got in 2008. Thanks, Blue. I guess the incremental update to 4.33 is what came out on April 27. I just assumed 4.0 is new since 3.0 is listed as shipping with the 7.5-hour-old K-30. I find it amazing that such an old software version is going to be bundled with such a new camera. Do you know if people who get 3.0 in a bundle with a new camera will be allowed to upgrade for free to 4.0? Some companies do that, but many others don't. Thanks again.

05-21-2012, 11:09 PM	#883
brewer New Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 20	Originally posted by Anvh Sensors are surely alike, it's the difference in processing and the filters on the sensor that makes this difference. the K5 use 14 bit so it can hold more information useful for the dynamic range, the colours and the noise, beside that the K5 uses a heavier AA-filter meaning the photos are slightly less sharp but you get less artefacts and slightly less noise. so techniccaly, sensors are almost the same ?

05-22-2012, 12:20 AM	#884
WerTicus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Perth Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,514	technically the results of the k-5 are better. not sure if the cause is a slightly different sensor or software or supporting electronics but the k-5 has more dynamic range.

05-22-2012, 12:33 AM	#885
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	The card up K-5's sleeve is ISO80, it makes a difference in the dxo graphs and got it "the win" over the Nikon D7000