[the swede]

K-7/K-5 grip is still the king of its class Its thicker than K-30 and just the litle more thickness makes great difference.

No doubt though.... K-30 seems to be one heck of a package!!!

[StepOne]

that's the 18-135mm WR. Which would be the ultimate bundle for many consumers. Hope they do put out this kit and price it right.

So far i found body only, 18-55 DA and 18-135 kit. There's no price yet. Somebody was not paying enough attention, and the info is available (if you know what to search for).

That's where i got the info. It's a retailer from our planet it's not amazon, it's a small fish.

Would do them no good if i say who they are (maybe Pentax will get angry). After all, i guess they just make a living.

[illdefined]

So far i found body only, 18-55 DA and 18-135 kit.

where? and for which markets?

[Smolk]

The built-in flash is longer/taller than the k-7 or k-5, so that may be a good move as well.

I sometimes hope they'll omit any such flash! A dedicated flash is always going to be far superior. Without it, use high ISO instead. Who uses these flashes anyway?
No offence intended of course but I cannot see the rationale and I could see an opportunity to reduce height. Or, for mirrorless cameras, include the contacts for an accessory viewfinder.

[monochrome]

SAFOX IXi+ autofocus
k-5 is SAFOX IX+
so k30 autofocus should be better than k-5..
that is cool.

Different. The jury is still out RE: conditionals. Just sayin'

[french_mike]

K-7/K-5 grip is still the king of its class Its thicker than K-30 and just the litle more thickness makes great difference.

true, still look very smallish to me

[aleonx3]

But there aren't plenty to choose from that will natively take my collection of K mount lenses...

I am referring to someone here complaining about not getting an articulated lens and prefer to see R/P get close to the specs similar Canikon models to gain new market share.

[JinDesu]

I sometimes hope they'll omit any such flash! A dedicated flash is always going to be far superior. Without it, use high ISO instead. Who uses these flashes anyway?
No offence intended of course but I cannot see the rationale and I could see an opportunity to reduce height. Or, for mirrorless cameras, include the contacts for an accessory viewfinder.

Because if you remove the on-board flash, you automatically alienate the enormous population of "Want-to-buy-dslr-just-because". That population is the one that will drop $800 bucks on a camera, use it with the lens it came with, and never ever get anything else.

[ogl]

There is one called Olympus E-5

OM-D E-M5 too

[aleonx3]

I sometimes hope they'll omit any such flash! A dedicated flash is always going to be far superior. Without it, use high ISO instead. Who uses these flashes anyway?
No offence intended of course but I cannot see the rationale and I could see an opportunity to reduce height. Or, for mirrorless cameras, include the contacts for an accessory viewfinder.

I do agree with that... in fact, I can count how many times (no more than 10) I used the built-in flash with my k-7 and k-5 in the past years. Definitely, I would like to see them getting rid of that on high end models.

[illdefined]

Different. The jury is still out RE: conditionals. Just sayin'

Careful. You dont want to be called an eeyore or a forum nerd on this thread do you?

[ElJamoquio]

I never use my flash either, I would pay to remove it. I suspect I'm not a standard customer, though.

[Mareket]

I sometimes hope they'll omit any such flash! A dedicated flash is always going to be far superior. Without it, use high ISO instead. Who uses these flashes anyway?
No offence intended of course but I cannot see the rationale and I could see an opportunity to reduce height. Or, for mirrorless cameras, include the contacts for an accessory viewfinder.

Lots of people use them as wireless master triggers, and they're incredibly useful for beginners in that sense.But I sort of agree, I wouldn't mind losing a built in flash.

[Adam]

Just a few more hours until the official launch now. Looks like one of our moderators accidentally published info about the K-30's AF, though, so feel free to browse that...

[westmill]

I often use the built in flash at partys and receptions. It works realy well on the Nikon.
Unfortunatley I have a fat lens on the K5 and it causes vignetting lol.
Its handy because you have 50 idiots a night grabbing the camera to see there pic lol
Quick shot... push it down as soon as.....
And yes.... acts as a master nicely on occasion with no fuss !